Tommy Robinson's Life Is In Danger. They Want Him Dead.

were the chimney sweep boys in jail ?

pineapple thinks if you criticise Islam and see that as the greatest of dangers and focus on that then it means you are a racist
That is wrong and simplistic and dangerous thinking

There are too many votes to be lost to raise the issue.

I've only asked a simple question folks.


Don't know why everyone's so evasive.

I’ve answered it , read slowly and try and understand

The irony is that holding a people to a different standard based purely on the colour of their skin is about as patronising, infantilizing and racist as it gets ...

the subtext being "oh well, I can't be seen to criticise the funny brown people"

absolutely shameful...

And remember that  old saying pineapple
Anti racism is the last refuge of the scoundrel

Let’s see if you understand that as well , anythings possible

Lfc, perhaps it's you who needs to read and understand.

I didn't ask you numbnuts.

PP - ok I'll bite.

People campaign on specific issues. Fry focussed on prisons. Saunders on palliative care, Wilberforce on slavery and animal rights.

Tommy on the threat of Islam. That's fair isn't it? Let's face it, life in Iran, Saudi or downtown Kuwait aren't great for gays, feminists, or infidels.

I guess you despise Carey for campigning (and stopping) brown skinned folk for the practice of Sutee !

As a liberal you should be extremely concerned at the rise of Islam. It will destroy liberals FIRST.
(See Iran...)

Personally I always park on the ground floor.

Lux  I am not sure where that comes from but Islam is not a race.  Hope this helps.

Anyone cop that newsnight where it was said that 80 percent of young women, in the uk, of the faith, were not married in english law. Therefore are NOT married.  I find that hard to believe but the muslim feminist legal eagle agreed it was the case???

I find that hard to believe. Not saying it is wrong but one way to convert the masses is through religion. If you weren't on the Church register you could not transfer property. In this country there are generous advantages to being married for tax purposes and specifically Inheritance Tax.

It angers people, frustrates them. What? We are too soft and bend over backwards, any fool can see that Islam will destroy you, yes the weak and feeble minded. Always remember, the tail wags the dog iourwith the Muzzies.

You`ve seen the recent abhorrent behavior with so called Gypsies in the Twaites brewery, left alone to do as they wish, then plod negotiated with them after the total annihilation of the premises, beggars belief. This is a story that should worry you all.

I watched it on newsnight.
This is not the actual prog  but comes from ch4
I will continue to look for the actual prog
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-truth-about-muslim-marriage

under 30s  80 percent  - as I said 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/nov/20/women-uk-islamic-wedding-legal...

PorcupineorPineapple
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IT - so is he an activist against rape, or just an activist against rape by a muslim.


Does a woman being raped by a non-muslim not matter so much to him?

^

Of course it matters. It is not just the thing he is campaigning about.

Lets try and make it really simple for you because you appear to have trouble with this.

If someone campaigns against gun crime in London does not mean they do not care about gun crime in Liverpool? Would you be angry that they are only talking about London. Or would you be happy they are highlighting the issue in London?

Another example Gina Martin campaigned against people taking 'upskirt' pictures. Does not mean she does not care about people taking 'down top' pictures of womens breasts? Of course not it is just her direct campaign is against upskirt pictures because that is the bad experience she had.

Surely you agree there is a problem with rape gangs in the UK and they are disproportionately done by a particular community. Tens of thousands of children are affected by this. Why does our society resist so much talking about it and just blame the messenger? Is it because people link pineapple just cannot face the facts of what is happening?

PPs argument is basically we cannot highlight genocide in Rwanda if we do not also highlight it in Bosnia at the same time.

PP, so tens of thousands of British children raped by these gangs is something that should just be ignored?

He is campaigning against it in Britain pineapple
If you think it is safe to campaign against in Muslim countries go ahead

moisok - you misunderstood my post, I was referring to those defending Islam conflating it with race and applying a different standard.

Aah, IT's back.

So then, found any of those TR reports on anyone who isn't a muslim.

(Or anyone who criticises him. Turning up at theirs with a couple of mates at 2am is another of his faves I believe).

tommy expressed deep regret in court after being told of the possible consequences of his actions on the trial.

Amazing.
If it wasn't for the likes of Tommy we would know very little about these grooming gangs yet some on here happy to see him silenced.

pp,

do you agree with sarah champion being fired from labour front bench for talking about this issue?

if tommy keeps getting himself locked up how will anybody find out about his crusade

PP - If you're looking for someone campaigning abou this at home AND abroad, look no further than the wonderful Baroness Cox. This from wiki:

In 2003, she wrote The 'West', Islam and Islamism: Is ideological Islam compatible with liberal democracy? with John Marks,[12] published by Civitas, which argued "that Islamist terrorism was only part of a broader ideological challenge comparable to communist propaganda efforts during the Cold War".

CSI’s (Christian Solidarity Worldwide) involvement with Sudan began in 1992, when two of CSI’s leaders, Cox and Eibner, traveled to southern Sudan at the invitation of local churches to observe the effects of civil war on the Christian populations there.[65] CSI became especially involved in "redeeming" (buying and freeing) slaves in 1995

anyone explained why he changed his name. is it because he is a con man?
i guess we all need a reason to believe but he is a charlatan imo

It is very interesting that people want to shoot the messenger on this subject.

Tens of thousands of girls having their lives ruined. 23,000 people on a terrorist watch list.

Yet all some people are worried about is the main person talking about these issues is TR.

They believe he is 'far right' (for no apparent reason apart from being told that by the main stream media).

They are angry he only talks about this issue but have no problem with other activists such as Gina Martin campaigning just talking about upskirting.

So the key test to the likes of Osmond, Pineapple and Northanlite is do they agree with Sarah Champion having to leave the Labour front bench for speaking out on the same issue?

She cannot be accused of being far right. So is it the subject you dont want mentioned or just you dont want TR mentioning it?

Pineapple and others on this thread seem obsessed with whether TR is a racist ,
It’s not illegal , it’s a matter of personal choice , what’s it got to do with them ?

They should remember that and mind their own business and concern themselves with the very real and major problems this country has because of mass immigration and multi culturalism

hes not a messenger, hes picked up on a known fact and uses it for his pre existing agenda

He is a messenger he is writing a book and the book he is writing is always the same book , and the story it tells is one that isn’t being told by the mainstream

I seem to have delivered bad news for the apologists on here - particularly as it comes from their favourite biased propaganda voices on ch4 and the guardian  ho ho !!!  Wonder how they get out of that one.  80 PERCENT a figure to remember.  And the progressives say that our liberal values will filter down and change british muslims.  These figures about young women refute that straw they have tried to grab.

"........
The fascist march last week involved demonstrators attacking the police, obviously in a violent and deliberate manner. If it were students, strikers, or Muslims, there would be questions asked in parliament, editorials in the Daily Telegraph and demands to arrest the culprits. I haven’t heard anything. About time we raised the profile on what the right-wing populism really leads to. ......"

donny osmond
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hes not a messenger, hes picked up on a known fact and uses it for his pre existing agenda

^

This really does show the pure ignorance of the anti-TR brigade.

He was one of the first to expose what was going on because it was happening in his own town of Luton over a decade ago before all the big cases came out.

Paxman 2011 interview with TR before Rotherham, Telford, Newcastle, Rochdale, Oxford etc was exposed..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q96elyZaxq8&t=345s

Facts
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"........
The fascist march last week involved demonstrators attacking the police, obviously in a violent and deliberate manner. If it were students, strikers, or Muslims, there would be questions asked in parliament, editorials in the Daily Telegraph and demands to arrest the culprits. I haven’t heard anything. About time we raised the profile on what the right-wing populism really leads to. ......"

^

We have another one.

Direct question for you Facts

Do you agree with Sarah Champion having to leave the Labour front bench for speaking out on the same issue as TR?

She stated in a piece published by the Sun :-

" Britain has a problem with British Pakistani men raping and exploiting white girls."

" There. I said it. Does that make me a racist? Or am I just prepared to call out this horrifying problem for what it is? "



' .....The Labour MP spent today trying to row back from her comments, saying that her piece should ‘not have gone out in my name’. This seemed like an unlikely excuse: a national newspaper wouldn’t publish an authored piece without the

person’s say-so. It’s also likely that the article – if not the headline – would have been approved by Champion or someone in her office before it was published (Guido Fawkes have published an email suggesting this was the case, and a spokesman for the Sun is saying the same).

Now, Champion is gone from the shadow cabinet. She said in her statement:

I apologise for the offence caused by the extremely poor choice of words in The Sun article on Friday. I am concerned that my continued position in the Shadow Cabinet would distract from the crucial issues around child protection which I have campaigned on my entire political career. It is therefore with regret that I tender my resignation as Shadow Secretary of State for Women and Equalities.....'




So,  in answer to your question, yes I agree. She had to stand down. For the very reason she gave in her statement.

Facts,

Are you worried that tens of thousands of girls have had their lives ruined by these rape gangs and that there are 23,000 on the terrorist watch list?

Does that concern you at all?

And there we have the problem, when people are fearful of speaking the truth , fearful of losing their jobs and fearful of their fellow human beings that surround them and that they cannot trust
That’s why we need people like TR , you would have to be half mad not to listen

You see Champion is gone from the shadow cabinet , that tells you all you need to know

Facts and Pineapple,

Do you disagree or agree with this statement from Sarah Champion:

" Britain has a problem with British Pakistani men raping and exploiting white girls."

Now those ***** on the BBC ( Jeremy Vine show ) asking are you hoping for England to lose in today’s match
The BBC really are complete scum

I disagree IT

LOL what a surprise.

I'd be interested to know whether you disagree because you don't think it happens all over the country, or whether you are aware of that but just don't see it as a problem?

its odd, the Government seem to want racist trouble,surely they could a far better job protecting kids from these filthy gangs and protect the British public from returning nutters hell bent on killing us from Syria or wherever these devils are,isnt it the first rule of Government to protect?

Just the wording jed, no need to get over-excited. If she'd said some Pakistani men, then fair enough but the wording makes it sound like most if not all.

Porky aint got any daughters.. NAP ... or a bit of skirt ... DOUBLE NAP

To you perhaps, not to me. You just choose to interpret it in that way.

How's about we have a bet WK?


Friendly stake, say £100 each. Winner gives it to the charity of their choosing. If I can prove I have daughters I win, if I can't you do.



How about it?

Fair enough jed. Just giving you the reason I disagree with it.

When have I stood up for rapists you utter cretin? My charity would be my choice, as you can freely choose your own.


How about it?

PP,

After reading this

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/apr/10/glossy-magazine-covers-too-white-models-black-ethnic-minority

Do you agree or disagree with this statement:

"Britain has a problem with too many white people on magazine covers."

you havent condemned the filth.. i wouldnt p*** on you if on fire

You have to understand that to people like PorP the Right is the enemy, and he will take any position on any subject to fit in with that principle.

IT - not into doing a quiz right now. Bit going on. Thanks though.



Jed - criminals are the enemy. Doesn't matter where they come from or what they look like. People who try to kill us are the enemy. Whether they be Islamist or right wing nutjobs or anything in between. People who are complicit in foreign countries meddling in our democratic process and those who will cover it up for fear of what they find are the enemy.


I judge people by their words and actions, not their nationality, faith or skin colour. I recommend it to be honest.

jed.davison
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You have to understand that to people like PorP the Right is the enemy, and he will take any position on any subject to fit in with that principle.

^

By completely denying there is any issue with tens of thousands of girls being groomed these people are actually further dividing the country and making people TR like more popular the people who understand reality.

The fact we cannot even debate it because they are just blind to any kind of report of grooming means the problem will only continue.

PP,

From the Newcastle case:

Lawyers defending alleged abusers in court have stated that several perpetrators were in forced marriages or under cultural restrictions that made them unable to have normal or varied relationships.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/grooming-gangs-asian-muslim-across-country-uk-girls-children-women-bradford-rotherham-newcastle-a7987381.html

Yet you still fail to see what is right in front of you.

WORDS  =  Kill infidels
ACTIONS =  Gang Rape White Girls... but dont let white men near our own daughters

Ok fair enough PorP, could you tell me where you stand on George Soros funding attempts to subvert British democracy?

PorcupineorPineapple
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IT - not into doing a quiz right now. Bit going on. Thanks though.



Jed - criminals are the enemy. Doesn't matter where they come from or what they look like. People who try to kill us are the enemy. Whether they be Islamist or right wing nutjobs or anything in between. People who are complicit in foreign countries meddling in our democratic process and those who will cover it up for fear of what they find are the enemy.


I judge people by their words and actions, not their nationality, faith or skin colour. I recommend it to be honest.


^

What do you mean by 'faith'?

If someone believes that men are superior to women would you not judge them?
If someone believes that heterosexuals are superior to gay people would you not judge them?

WK - don't worry, I've judged you by now.

Jesus, the vast majority of this island believe men are superior to women. They believe Brits are superior to "others". They believe that white men are the most superior race of all. Yes, I judge people like that.

common sense

pp,

Do you judge people if they think marrying their cousin is a good thing?
Do you judge people if they think Chinese people are superior to black people?
Do you judge people if they think it is a good thing to have several wives?

superior is the wrong word , meaningless in a way and silly
Different is a better word

Jesus, the vast majority of this island believe men are superior to women. They believe Brits are superior to "others". They believe that white men are the most superior race of all.

You don't help yourself with statements like this - the vast majority of people don't believe anything of the kind. No doubt some do, but the vast majority? Have a day off.

Individuals are what they are , but culture is derived from difference
That’s important

It’s interesting , why have Jewish people for example historically been so intelligent ?
It will , at least partly , be something from within their culture going back over many years , centuries perhaps

I find it strange that some people think that culture, religion and upbringing can have to affect on how people behave.

Very strange indeed.

:) yes it’s amazing

I think Wounded Knee has come up with perhaps the most pathetic argument I have ever read in 15 years on this forum - to suggest PP is sticking up for rapists is absolutely ridiculous - nobody is suggesting anything other than the maximum penalty possible for the rapists here - what PP is arguing (and very well) is that to use the actions of a tiny minority of Muslims, as a tool to spread hate against the entire community is stupid and dangerous

thank you father

Those damn Nazis made us repel the Luftwaffe. Oh the shame.

Shouldn't have to post Brigitte Gabriel AGAIN. But....

https://youtu.be/Ry3NzkAOo3s

time you were out on patrol injera, foil hat ready

ICM poll 2016 67% of British muslims would not give police terror tip offs

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/659913/two-in-three-British-Muslims-would-NOT-give-police-terror-tip-offs

ICM poll 2016 52% of British muslims think homosexuality should be illegal

https://edition.cnn.com/2016/04/11/europe/britain-muslims-survey/index.html

Comres poll 2015 27% of British muslims have some sympathy with Charlie Hebdo terrorists

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/11433776/Quarter-of-British-Muslims-sympathise-with-Charlie-Hebdo-terrorists.html

ICM poll 2006 40% of British muslms want sharia law in parts of uk

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html

Pew report 2013 A minimum of 75% of muslims in 33 of 36 countries polled  think homosexuality is immoral

http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-morality/

tiny minority?

80 percent of young muslim women are not legally married in the UK.

I thought the progressive view was that eventually they would assimilate - instead they appear to be more radical

even the guys too  - they progressives couldn't be wrong could they?

moysey - what % of young british women are married? Just as way of comparison like.


If you want assimilation are you asking for them to be single parents?


Just wondering what you want. Do you want them to be like nice white people and do what they do or not?

Quite sure he means the ones that are "married" arnt legally married.

crikey, I don't want to be the one to tell him about people "cohabiting" nowadays. His head might just explode.

They claim to be married but only under sharia, but not legally under uk law. Nothing to do with cohabiting but allows the men to exploit the supposed 'married' state.  We all know what then goes on.  Leaving women to be exploited.  As they do with their gangs.
It is a muslim feminist lawyer who is exposing this, but porky just wants to make a joke out of it.  But then he supports them so what else can one expect from him.

Two brothers are brought up in the same house. They go to the same school. They go to the same place of worship.

One of them goes on to have a fairly traditional boring life. The other goes on to commit a horrible crime.




What effect did the culture, religion and upbringing have on him?

the other brother secretly wished he had the bollocks to join his bro and the virgins

For the progessives like porky it cannot be allowed that there is a problem here.  To admit it is to shatter their cuddly wuddly view of the peaceful ones. They are as big a problem as the problem itself.

culture is important because it is linked to genetics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3VPWzSXQQg

many of the victims have said that brothers, fathers and sons, and uncles were involved

rotherham stats say it could be majority               https://youtu.be/Y9e3LXzvBo8

PorcupineorPineapple
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Two brothers are brought up in the same house. They go to the same school. They go to the same place of worship.

One of them goes on to have a fairly traditional boring life. The other goes on to commit a horrible crime.




What effect did the culture, religion and upbringing have on him?


^

Whats does these two fake profiles prove?

Lets look at some more scientific information that the guesses from pineapple.

'7 in 10 currently say they're sticking close to their parents' positions on the ideological spectrum, many will possibly continue the voting tradition of at least one older family member.'

https://news.gallup.com/poll/14515/teens-stay-true-parents-political-perspectives.aspx

So children more likely to vote the same way as their parents than not.

I could go on and quote studies on religion and on other cultural issues.

But I think we can all agree that culture, upbringing and religion do have an affect on behavior.

It is surely worth examining this when trying to stop terrible crimes against children occurring in our country.

It could be argued that the likes of pineapple are a product of the environment he is in where political correctness means he refuses to profile the rapists and prefers to see everyone as uninfluenced individuals.

Correct, IT.

Of course upbringing has an impact.


Do you shine the same lens on londoners, scousers, geordies, brummies etc as individual ethnic groups every time one of them does something bad? What about white people? Protestants? By age group? Men? Do you look into the culture and religion of every murder and rape committed and consider its impact? Or do you only reserve that for when a muslim does it.

Rhetorical question. No need to answer.


What do your studies say about upbringing and culture in Cambridgeshire around the time of the Soham murders?


You mentioned FGM a while back and yet I don't think I've seen you criticise Judaism for circumcision ever. Why is that I wonder?





Fact is you just hate islam and muslims, and will slavishly follow and support every little bit of propaganda that is fed to you that backs up that view.

Much as a lot of people's opinion on Mr Lennon, it's this inability to be as critical to others, particularly those who look and sound like him, which completely invalidates your argument.



I mean, if I wanted I could start a blog where I slavishly devoted myself to priests raping kids, to murders done by committed Christians. I could completely exclude crimes done by anyone else and solely focus on these. I could then go and cherry pick verses from the Bible or quotes from notable Christians that would be made to look as instructions to commit these crimes. I doubt it would take me that long in all honesty.

But ultimately it would prove nothing except some people are evil and will look to justify their actions in some way. Also that some people will always try to twist things to suit a pre-conceived agenda.


And I think most people would recognise it for what it is. Much as most people do with your man and his skinheaded, neck-tattooed munchkins.

I mean, if I wanted I could start a blog where I slavishly devoted myself to priests raping kids, to murders done by committed Christians. I could completely exclude crimes done by anyone else and solely focus on these. I could then go and cherry pick verses from the Bible or quotes from notable Christians that would be made to look as instructions to commit these crimes. I doubt it would take me that long in all honesty.

You can cherry-pick verses from the Bible, of course you can. But you would need to understand that whatever verses you quoted have long ago been disavowed by the worldwide Christian community, and that the more extreme exhortations are only considered relevant nowadays by a statistically irrelevant rump of that community.

As stated above, that is simply not the case with Islam. In Islam, the hadiths are still considered - by all Muslims - to be the word of Allah, delivered through his prophet Muhammed. They are inviolable, unchangeable by human hand, and irrefutable - disavowal of the truths of the hadiths is apostasy, which I'm sure you are aware is punishable by death in Islamic jurisdiction.

One does not need to scratch the surface of Islamic opinion to know that extreme views are not uncommon - and why should they be? In Britain for instance, the majority of the long-standing Islamic presence is from the Indian sub-continent, and only one or two generations removed from that area - it stands to reason that beliefs and cultures from that region would remain entrenched among its diaspora, particularly given the first generation's understandable reluctance to abandon its cultural traditions.

It is this distinction your argument ignores - despite I suspect you being all too aware of its relevance. Of course individual priests and lay Christians commit crimes, even a simpleton knows that, but they are very rarely crimes for which they claim divine inspiration, and they are even more rarely crimes which involve the indiscriminate murder of large numbers of civilians.

One does need to be careful tarring all Muslims as fanatics, of course they are not, but you should know that despite sharing a common enemy - in this case the Right Wing of European opinion - Islam is no friend of yours. You will pay the jizya, convert, or die, however many times you can prove you have argued its corner on internet forums.

Ok lets break this nonsense down:

Of course upbringing has an impact.

Good. Finally we have agreement.


Do you shine the same lens on londoners, scousers, geordies, brummies etc as individual ethnic groups every time one of them does something bad? What about white people? Protestants? By age group? Men? Do you look into the culture and religion of every murder and rape committed and consider its impact? Or do you only reserve that for when a muslim does it.

If white scouser protestants made up a tiny percentage of the population and accounted, for example, 80% of car thefts in the country I think I think it would be worth examining if there is any link/reason. e.g. is there something happening in Liverpool that encourages this? Is there a skill handed down from father to son. Are there organised crime gangs in that community that do profit from it etc.

Another example. If 50% of the England cricket team was born in Yorkshire it might be worth looking at if something in the schools, clubs, financing etc of schools in Yorkshire that makes people brought up there better at cricket.

What do your studies say about upbringing and culture in Cambridgeshire around the time of the Soham murders?

No. But if there were 100 times more child murders in the area than anywhere else I would want to see if it was truely random. E.g. is there a cult based there or something.


You mentioned FGM a while back and yet I don't think I've seen you criticise Judaism for circumcision ever. Why is that I wonder?

I have never critised male circumcision. A man can still have pleasure in sex after it although it is not something I would advise if there was no medical reason for it in the inidividual. Cutting the clitoris off massively reduces the ability of a woman to have any kind of orgasm from sexual activity.

Fact is you just hate islam and muslims, and will slavishly follow and support every little bit of propaganda that is fed to you that backs up that view.

Not correct in any manner shape or form. I dislike child rape, FGM, honor killings, bad treatment of women and killing of innocent people.


Much as a lot of people's opinion on Mr Lennon, it's this inability to be as critical to others, particularly those who look and sound like him, which completely invalidates your argument.
I mean, if I wanted I could start a blog where I slavishly devoted myself to priests raping kids, to murders done by committed Christians. I could completely exclude crimes done by anyone else and solely focus on these. I could then go and cherry pick verses from the Bible or quotes from notable Christians that would be made to look as instructions to commit these crimes. I doubt it would take me that long in all honesty.

Again I have tried to present examples of activists that try to hammer home one point. e.g. Gina Martin on Upskirting. It does not mean these people do not care about anything else. It just means their prime objective is the area they are trying to encourage debate on.


But ultimately it would prove nothing except some people are evil and will look to justify their actions in some way. Also that some people will always try to twist things to suit a pre-conceived agenda.
And I think most people would recognise it for what it is. Much as most people do with your man and his skinheaded, neck-tattooed munchkins.

His agenda from what I can tell was from his own experiences in Luton. You appear to be fitting in your own per-conceived agenda that everyone who listens to what he actually says is a skinhead with neck-tattoos. What do you have against all people with skinheads and neck-tattoos?

Pineapple seems to unable to grasp the fact that religions are not equal, they cannot be because of the way a certain religion creates a certain society
look around.

Update


Tommy Robinson, the founder of the English Defence League, is to remain in jail while judges consider his appeal against a 13-month prison sentence for contempt of court.

Three judges in the court of appeal have reserved their decision after hearing evidence on Wednesday about his two convictions in Leeds and Canterbury for breaching reporting restrictions.

The lord chief justice, Lord Burnett of Maldon, said he hoped the court would deliver judgment before the end of July.

Lawyers for Robinson had urged the court to release him immediately, arguing that he had already served almost two months in prison and that the 13-month sentence was excessive and that the Leeds conviction was the result of a hearing conducted hastily.
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Robinson, the founder of the far-right EDL, was sentenced for contempt after live-streaming a report of a trial in Leeds in May.

The judge in that trial had ordered that media reports of the proceedings should be postponed until the end of all related cases. Robinson was arrested while broadcasting outside the courthouse, tried in a summary hearing, sentenced and sent to prison within the space of five hours.

Charged under his real name, Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, he appeared before the court of appeal by video link from prison. He occasionally put his head in his hands as he listened to the legal proceedings.
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Robinson had previously been given a suspended sentence for contempt of court after live-streaming at another case, in Canterbury last year.

Robinson’s counsel, Jeremy Dein QC, said the sentence imposed on him in Leeds was “manifestly excessive”. He said Robinson was being kept in conditions of virtually solitary confinement at Onley prison.

Consulting with his client had been difficult because it took so long for him to be brought out from his cell, Dein said. He called for the decision of the summary hearing to be quashed and for Robinson to be released on the grounds that he had already served almost two months in jail.

Precisely which parts of the contempt laws Robinson had breached had not been made clear, Dein said. “The proceedings were unnecessarily and unjustifiably rushed. They were conducted in haste.”

He said Robinson, when he was brought before the court, had offered to have the live stream deleted. “He did not act with impertinent defiance.”

Dein said Robinson and others working for Rebel Media had undertaken training sessions in London on media law.

This video from sargon sums up the uk, about now.

.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Obl5gwkj4bA

"You're breaking Breach of the Peace."
FFS where do they get theses feckers from.
That cop struggles to construct a sentence.

best defence is that sentence was excessive....



his past convictions will always count against him


i thought he would be out by now

He's out now, celebratory meal at nandoes

He's just planted his little flag.