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Report aaronh June 12, 2018 3:07 PM BST

Jun 12, 2018 -- 2:49PM, SontaranStratagem wrote:


Jun 12, 2018 --  2:14PM, detraveller wrote:If it was Obama, the reporting will still be biased. Media has been reporting whatever they want to since ages. People have never been able to figure out.The media are split into two sides, the anti trump and the pro trump, it was the same with Obama as well, fox news/infowars etc were anti Obama and CNN/MSNBC were pro Obama. Nothing has changes its just the man in the white house is on the opposite side to the previous. And this will continue until people wake up and smell the coffee. Why would you change something when people will eat up whatever their preferred choice of media propaganda happens to be. I find all media quite rancid, but I have a deeper hatred for the alt right, because they pretend to be about free speech and rule of law, yet are quick to shut down anyone with the opposite view, and were telling people to protest because of Tommy Robinsons arrest, despite him pleading guilty. They've gone very quiet on the Tommy Robinson front though like he doesn't exist. have they lost the movement? and wont touch it until they get another puppet leader in place?


The right are crying now that they see their fave being skewered in the media after years of left figures getting the same treatment. The rise of alternative media is fascinating because these don't even pretend not to have an agenda yet get considered less biased on both sides

Report lfc1971 June 12, 2018 3:10 PM BST
^ never happened
Report lfc1971 June 12, 2018 3:12 PM BST
If you like do you want to try some examples , let’s start with Thatcher
Report aaronh June 12, 2018 3:13 PM BST
Do you believe the papers were positive about Corbyn?
Report lfc1971 June 12, 2018 3:15 PM BST
Newspapers are allowed to take a stance, that is the beauty of newspapers you can buy any number of them
Now I suggest you forget about that
What about the state media , take a look there
Report SontaranStratagem June 12, 2018 3:15 PM BST
MSNBC/CNN are pro democrat and anti Trump, that's their part in the game

Infowars/Drudge/Fox are all pro Trump, that's their part in the game

= divide and conquer
Report lfc1971 June 12, 2018 3:16 PM BST
Any problem with leftists or liberals on the BBC for example ?
Report lfc1971 June 12, 2018 3:18 PM BST
ITV , channel 4....?
Report lfc1971 June 12, 2018 3:18 PM BST
Radio , 12,3,4 ....?
Report SontaranStratagem June 12, 2018 3:21 PM BST
BBC is anti Trump as well? as is C4. dont know about ITV as I don't pay any attention to em

But its an information war, and all the teams in the game spin their own web

Alt media is the worst for it, because they pretend to be the lords of truth, yet take the **** out of anyone who dares to question their spin, even going as far as to post up pics of "big women" and mock them for being liberals. all sides are bad though.
Report SontaranStratagem June 12, 2018 3:23 PM BST
Where do you get you news from lfc?

RT? Infowars? BBC? other internet sources?
Report aaronh June 12, 2018 3:26 PM BST

Jun 12, 2018 -- 3:15PM, lfc1971 wrote:


Newspapers are allowed to take a stance, that is the beauty of newspapers you can buy any number of themNow I suggest you forget about that What about the state media , take a look there


Surely trump should respect that then when he goes on about WaPo and NYT for example.

Do the government control BBC editorial policy? Otherwise it isn't really state media even if funded so. If your focus is "state media" only then CNN is allowed to be as biased as The Sun or Daily Mail is thrb

Made my views clear on BBC in the other thread. I really don't see a slant in either direction on political issues. Social issues yes.

The amount of people you see complaining on both sides about the BBC or their guests suggest there is enough of both sides.

Report aaronh June 12, 2018 3:27 PM BST
Is then*
Report lfc1971 June 12, 2018 3:27 PM BST
Bits  and pieces here and there , if something interests me I listen
sometimes I have stopped listening, if the word Muslim is mentioned I immediately stop listening for example
I don’t need to hear anything more, I have already heard too much
Report timbuctooth June 12, 2018 3:34 PM BST
SS; just because you trawl web sites, doesn`t mean most people do; therefore, having to include web sites in an attempt at seeming to be evening up the numbers, is Fake News. The truth is that Fox is on it`s own, up against CNN, NBC, MSNBC, ABC and CBS; that`s five against one! Throw in every UK station, every UK newspaper, plus the vast majority of the US press, and it`s no wonder we still have so many willfully ignorant lefties posting on here.
Report SontaranStratagem June 12, 2018 3:37 PM BST
But your man won? meaning more people watch or listen to other media outlets that are pro trump
Report Torquemada June 12, 2018 3:37 PM BST
Spot on, Tim! I noticed that bit of creative manipulation of the truth as well. Infowars? Who watches that? And I haven't even heard of one of the others.
Report timbuctooth June 12, 2018 3:38 PM BST
Yes!
Report timbuctooth June 12, 2018 3:38 PM BST
^^^ to SS
Report aaronh June 12, 2018 3:42 PM BST
Who knew that the mirror and the guardian were the only 2 newspapers in the UK now. No wonder times are bad
Report timbuctooth June 12, 2018 3:44 PM BST
Sorry, ignore my last two posts, I misread the question.

The correct answer is; `why would you think that?` Fox is the number one for viewership, and the percentage of people getting their news of The Don on web sites is tiny; it was just that voters saw through the lies they were being spun by MSM.
Report Torquemada June 12, 2018 3:48 PM BST
I get nearly all my information about Trump from BBC and SKY NEWS, I just don't agree with most of it and can see through the lies.

The rest is from reading Chit Chat! You just have to filter through the nonsense to get to the good stuff.
Report timbuctooth June 12, 2018 4:02 PM BST
Do you have access to Fox on tv? If not,

www.hulkusd.com/watch-fox-news-live-streaming/
Report Afc888 June 12, 2018 4:40 PM BST
The lefts ridiculous reaction today has proved exactly why Trump is the president and they're also doing a very good job of getting him re-elected in the near future if this continues.

There's nothing edgy about a Hollywood actor going on stage and screaming "f**k trump" like some sort of two year old. It's shameful and doing the complete opposite to helping there own cause.

Also last week we had a multi millionaire in Bill Maher advocating a recession. Saying he'd have no problem what so ever with this as long as this removed Trump from power. All well and good Bill when this wouldn't affect you in the slighest where as the vast majority of your viewers would have there lives turned upside down. It really does just outstand me how dumb some of the things that are said its almost unbelievable.
Report InsiderTrader June 12, 2018 5:33 PM BST
LBC is the worst for leftist anti-Trump sentiment.
Report aaronh June 12, 2018 5:40 PM BST
they have plenty of people to counteract James O'Brien
Report detraveller June 12, 2018 5:46 PM BST
So what have they signed exactly? Will Kim be giving up his nukes?
Report timbuctooth June 12, 2018 6:02 PM BST
Yes.
Report themightymac June 12, 2018 6:42 PM BST
Kim would be a mug to give up his nuclear weapons.
Report timbuctooth June 12, 2018 6:45 PM BST
Maybe, but he`ll be dead if he doesn`t
Report lfc1971 June 12, 2018 6:46 PM BST
lol it’s very simple , either he gives them up or gets bumped off
Which is it ?
Report Jack Hacksaw June 12, 2018 6:47 PM BST
Can't wait to see that woman on N Korea TV giving it large about this climbdown.
Report lfc1971 June 12, 2018 6:47 PM BST
Do you think we are going to stand around , or China or Russia while a lunatic like that has nuclear weapons ?
Report lfc1971 June 12, 2018 6:48 PM BST
If he isn’t careful little rocket man isn’t going to wake up some day
Report detraveller June 12, 2018 6:59 PM BST
What assurance do the americans have that Kim will give up the weapons just like that?
What assurance does Kim have that after giving up the weapons, America wouldn't try installing democracy in his land, and thus get rid of him?
Report themightymac June 12, 2018 7:02 PM BST
Do you think we are going to stand around , or China or Russia while a lunatic like that has nuclear weapons ?

... probably not but Trump will never give them up.
Report detraveller June 12, 2018 7:06 PM BST
Kim is 34. He has the potential to be there for 4-5 more decades. But if he doesn't have the nukes, he'll be worth nothing, because he won't be a lunatic anymore.

On the other hand, Trump will be there for 6 more years at best. This deal has to be extremely attractive to Kim. Don't know what Trump's offering but would be really surprised if Kim gives up the weapons. 6 years from now Trump won't be there and the deal might mean nothing when the new guy takes office.
Report timbuctooth June 12, 2018 7:18 PM BST
The Americans have no assurance; they are, however, dealing with the third Kim, about whom we know very little. Not hard, though, with his people starving by ever greater numbers, everyday increasing the chance of a coup or revolt, to imagine he`s not necessarily as hard line as the two previous Kims, fancies staying alive, and potentially even reunite Korea, with him in charge! Failing that, a healthy population, with aid being thrown at it from its neighbours and the US, becoming the next Singapore will have plenty of appeal. It`s very likely he never really wanted missiles, this has all been a play designed to have the West modernise his country, with a hugely grateful population eternally reverential.

What assurance does Kim have? There are many sorts of international agreements, but if they sign a `treaty`, which will have been passed by Congress, it would be virtually impossible to overthrow. In fact, the only chance it would be overthrown would be if he started at the nukes again, in which case he could have no complaints. Don`t be confused by what obama did, as he introduced many things that didn`t have any real legal weight, stuff he was able to pass on his own steam, without a vote in Congress. He did this as he knew what he was agreeing to would be ripped to pieces, if allowed go before a vote.
Report detraveller June 12, 2018 7:20 PM BST
In fact, the only chance it would be overthrown would be if he started at the nukes again
He doesn't have to start the nukes again. All america has to do is make it look like he has nukes. Like they did with Iraq. And bang. There goes the deal. There has to be more that Kim is getting.
Report lfc1971 June 12, 2018 7:20 PM BST
America don’t want him to have them , Russia don’t want him to have them , China don’t want him to have them
That’s all that needs to be known , he will have to give them up
Report themightymac June 12, 2018 7:28 PM BST
If he were alive, I`m sure that Red Cloud would disagree with your assessment regarding American treaties being kept timbuctooth.

His famous quote being, "They made with us many treaties but they only kept one when they promised they would take our land".
Report themightymac June 12, 2018 7:32 PM BST
more recently, in fact the present, ask Iran.
Report lfc1971 June 12, 2018 7:32 PM BST
If America have to worry about him , he can worry about America
That seems to me to be a good arrangement
Report lfc1971 June 12, 2018 7:33 PM BST
If Iran was to behave itself then again there is no problem with agreements
Report timbuctooth June 12, 2018 7:49 PM BST
themightymac    12 Jun 18 19:32 
more recently, in fact the present, ask Iran.

Are you referring to `the Iran deal`? That wan`t a treaty, wasn`t passed by Congress, just one of obama`s helping hands to co-religionists



`...If it looks like a treaty, walks like a treaty and talks like a treaty, is it a treaty?
According to the White House, only if the President of the United States says it is.
That's infuriating Republicans and even some Democrats, who are demanding that the Obama administration submit any final nuclear deal with Iran to Congress for approval.
"This is clearly a treaty," Arizona Sen. John McCain told reporters Tuesday. "They can call it a banana, but it's a treaty."

The GOP position could jeopardize the long-term survival of any Iran deal, and it represents the party's newest clash with President Barack Obama over the limits of executive authority, as Republicans object to a pact they warn could eventually give Tehran a nuclear bomb.
It's that skepticism that has largely led the White House to define the deal as a "nonbinding agreement" rather than a "treaty," which the Constitution requires Senate "advice and consent" on.
Can the White House avoid Congress?
The distinction -- and whether it can legitimately be used to shut out Congress -- turns on complicated and unresolved questions of constitutional law. While Republicans call foul, the administration defends the differentiation as perfectly sound, and no surprise.

Secretary of State John Kerry stressed Wednesday that the administration never intended to negotiate a treaty.
"We've been clear from the beginning. We're not negotiating a 'legally binding plan.' We're negotiating a plan that will have in it a capacity for enforcement," he said at a Senate hearing.
That doesn't sit well with Republicans, many of whom believe the Senate's constitutional role is being bypassed.
Idaho Sen. James Risch dismissed the administration's argument: "Let there be no mistake, this is a treaty that is being negotiated. It's a treaty and should be treated as such."

edition.cnn.com/2015/03/12/politics/iran-nuclear-deal-treaty-obama-administration/index.html
Report mad mad moon June 12, 2018 7:58 PM BST
I never thought I'd say this but fair play to C4 news, who after relegating John Snow to the anti-Brexit slot, have
been quite balanced on the meeting and have even given Trump some credit.

Not so at the Beeb though who have been totally negative throughout on both radio and TV.
As a previous poster said, if Obama was in charge they'd be calling for a saint hood.
Report casemoney June 12, 2018 9:04 PM BST
Build Hotels Instead of Bombs  ,and we will invest in your Country ,and stop Warships being on the Horizon ,whats not to like ?
Report spyker June 12, 2018 9:22 PM BST
Christ, haven't times changed? If you'd have told me just 3 years ago that the right wing would be cheering the U.S ending the 'war-games' (a standing joke being the N korean rhetoric down the years) and potentially withdrawing U.S troops from the peninsular in return for a bland statement similar to that issued in 1992,1994 and 2005 i think, I wouldn't have believed you 1000 times over. Maybe because if the then U.S president had done it there just might be a different reaction - ever feel you're being manipulated and used fellers?
Report lfc1971 June 12, 2018 9:32 PM BST
You’re not happy because it’s Trump are you ? , ok got it
Report lfc1971 June 12, 2018 9:37 PM BST
America wants its troops out , Trump doesn’t want to spend another 8 years doing nothing
If nothing is resolved too bad , Trump is not worried that’s up to the rest of this part of the world
Report lfc1971 June 12, 2018 9:42 PM BST
Don’t think for one minute that America has hang around there forever , they don’t it’s too much trouble
Report SontaranStratagem June 12, 2018 9:48 PM BST
This morning I was ready to give Trump some credit, but the way his supporters have gone of its like he's solved all famine, world peace, and found the cure for cancer all in one handshake and 5 minute chat with another dictator Crazy

He did well but he's the sodding president, that's supposed to be his bleeding job???. but its only the beginning and having watched it all from start to finish I don't think King Jong Un is even giving up the weapons tbh, and Trump has managed to alienate Canada and France before heading of to singapore, and after this he's probably alienated Japan and South Korea as well

So well done, he managed to get Kim to talk, but ruined alliances with two other nations by doing so.
Report lfc1971 June 12, 2018 9:50 PM BST
That’s not his job
Report timbuctooth June 12, 2018 9:51 PM BST
spyker    12 Jun 18 21:22 
Christ, haven't times changed? If you'd have told me just 3 years ago that the right wing would be cheering the U.S ending the 'war-games' (a standing joke being the N korean rhetoric down the years) and potentially withdrawing U.S troops from the peninsular in return for a bland statement similar to that issued in 1992,1994 and 2005 i think, I wouldn't have believed you 1000 times over. Maybe because if the then U.S president had done it there just might be a different reaction - ever feel you're being manipulated and used fellers?

They`re not doing that, though, are they; stop fabricating, please.
Report SontaranStratagem June 12, 2018 9:51 PM BST
Errr its not the presidents job to be diplomatic?

Classic
Report casemoney June 12, 2018 9:52 PM BST
Well done Don Trumpton Grin
Report lfc1971 June 12, 2018 9:52 PM BST
Trudeau and Merkel and Macron need taking down a peg or two
It’s good for them
Report SontaranStratagem June 12, 2018 9:55 PM BST
Traudau maybe

But Merkel and Macron is a bit more foolish

Traudau is a plank, but Canada are right on the USAs doorstep LaughCrazy
Report casemoney June 12, 2018 9:56 PM BST
What many Seem to Forget is that Don was originally a Democrat, now any Praise and People are Branded Right Wing ,all very strange .
After the Tragic Brexit Loss ,the Remoaners have Regrouped as Grumper Trumpers Grin
Report SontaranStratagem June 12, 2018 9:57 PM BST
The don is from new york isn't he?

And he's on record saying he'd run as a republican because they are the dumbest voters Laugh
Report lfc1971 June 12, 2018 9:58 PM BST
Well so what they had better start listening a little more carefully to what America says ,
And to what Britain says , if we could just get PM May to say something
Report casemoney June 12, 2018 10:00 PM BST
Laugh I believe it . Dont think Don in to Pure Politics his only interest is Money for him and  the States , Would not be surprised if Luxury Trump hotels Built on the NK beaches Laugh
Report anxious June 12, 2018 10:04 PM BST
i would agree trump is not a Republican he is merely a blagger and a Spiv
Report lfc1971 June 12, 2018 10:06 PM BST
The thing is communism has been defeated , there is no need for America to be there now
Russia and China are not going to want to extend communism anywhere anymore , that’s dead
Report lfc1971 June 12, 2018 10:08 PM BST
If the worst comes to the worst and America leaves followed by a civil war
That’s up to the Korean people
Report casemoney June 12, 2018 10:11 PM BST
How many Millions will he save the States ? Warships swanning around NK coast for years ..
Report casemoney June 12, 2018 10:13 PM BST
We are off for an Italian LaughLaugh
Report casemoney June 12, 2018 10:14 PM BST
You Maybe Right Anxious ,Ill tell you one thing I would not favour a Game of Poker against him Laugh
Report aaronh June 12, 2018 10:25 PM BST

Jun 12, 2018 -- 9:48PM, SontaranStratagem wrote:


This morning I was ready to give Trump some credit, but the way his supporters have gone of its like he's solved all famine, world peace, and found the cure for cancer all in one handshake and 5 minute chat with another dictator He did well but he's the sodding president, that's supposed to be his bleeding job???. but its only the beginning and having watched it all from start to finish I don't think King Jong Un is even giving up the weapons tbh, and Trump has managed to alienate Canada and France before heading of to singapore, and after this he's probably alienated Japan and South Korea as wellSo well done, he managed to get Kim to talk, but ruined alliances with two other nations by doing so.


I think South Koreans are actually mostly pleased.

the new President had been pushing for this and is mostly very popular from what I gather.

Not actually been much discussion of the NK or SK people in this thread funnily enough Crazy

Report aaronh June 12, 2018 10:30 PM BST

Jun 12, 2018 -- 9:57PM, SontaranStratagem wrote:


The don is from new york isn't he?And he's on record saying he'd run as a republican because they are the dumbest voters


He didn't actually say this. There's lots of dumb stuff he has said on the record however Tongue Out

Report timbuctooth June 12, 2018 10:40 PM BST
Ignore the uninformed who are short-sighted enough to think that what happens there won`t affect us; instead, listen to the locals who have been living with this on their doorstep for decades; `once in a century opportunity` is their verdict

economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/south-korea-hails...
Report spyker June 13, 2018 9:55 AM BST
You’re not happy because it’s Trump are you ? , ok got it


Not at all old girl - as a liberal leftie anti imperialist and anti american filth propaganda believer I'm ecstatic that the far right (after all they have always run America) establishment now concede that they have been wrong about troops and their use of force since WW2 and are withdrawing them without any concessions at all to my socialist hero Kim, well done brother Kim.
What does make me laugh is that you right wing lot seem to pride yourselves on being free thinkers and not being told what to think by the 'establishment'  or MSM when it is as plain as the nose on your face that you are manipulated and repeat parrot fashion whatever you think is Trump's (or the far right in general) position. having read all the usual sites to make sure you are getting it right of course.
This 'war' situation was only ever bought about by Trump's silliness so well done Trump for not starting WW3 on your own. As far as the N Korea situation goes this has done nothing other than massively strengthened Kim and make the easing of sanctions (that the Chinese will take full advantage of very quickly) that much closer. Well done Comrade-Brothers Kim and Xi.
Report timbuctooth June 13, 2018 12:21 PM BST
You try to base an argument on `establishment now concede that they have been wrong about troops and their use of force since WW2 and are withdrawing them` Why would you do that, you know it`s not true, NO troops are being withdrawn! Everything that follows such fallaciousness becomes mere SEEEEETHING drivel.
Report SontaranStratagem June 13, 2018 12:44 PM BST
I was willing to give Trump his due but as I said either on this thread or the other, his supporters are so arrogant about it its a case of just saying well done is a patronizing tone. I hope the North Korean people finally see some freedoms because of it.

The trump brigade and the alt right are basically going "ner ner ner" because of this though, and they want to be seen as the grown ups Crazy
Report spyker June 13, 2018 1:31 PM BST
Seethe about what - what is there to seethe about? The 'summit' couldn't have been better for anyone that likes to see America's influence in the world diminish - Trump is doing very well at that thank you very much. I fail to see what Trump supporters (and the 'right' in general) have to to shout about regarding the 'deal' done - please elaborate as to what you think Trump has got from Kim and what you think Trump has given N Korea.
Report trilby22 June 13, 2018 1:52 PM BST
Credit where it's due - that's all I'm saying.
Report trilby22 June 13, 2018 1:52 PM BST
… and no, I'm not "alt-right", whatever the fck that is.
Report detraveller June 13, 2018 1:58 PM BST
Must be the opposite of alt left.
Report stickyvicky June 13, 2018 2:07 PM BST
Report Gin June 13, 2018 2:14 PM BST
More like alt Ctrl Delete...........
Report cooperman June 13, 2018 2:37 PM BST
Trump supporters are like cult members who blindly follow their leaders rhetoric, funnel funds into making their leader rich and punishing fellow cult members who stray from their leaders orders. Trumps' playbook is straight out of the J. Ron Hubbard, Church of Scientology craziness.
Report saddo June 13, 2018 2:55 PM BST
And his haters repeatedly parrot the opinions of the Guardian BBC and C4 etc, very little original thought in any of these political arguments tbf.
Report lfc1971 June 13, 2018 2:57 PM BST
you dont understand do you spyker, we do not concede that the role of American troops since WW2 has been wrong, certainly not in Korea

And the people of S Korea  should be eternally grateful to America and it troops
However it is a great burden for America to bear and cannot be borne forever
Trump is trying to make progress in resolving this
Report detraveller June 13, 2018 4:51 PM BST
lfc, thanking america alone is massively disrespectful to the sheep from other countries that have laid their lives on america's orders. The world should be equally grateful to UK, French and German troops, along with the other NATO member country troops.
Report lfc1971 June 13, 2018 4:58 PM BST
Are you going to be respectful or call them sheep ?

Make up your mind detraveller
Report Torquemada June 13, 2018 5:10 PM BST
Well said, LFC!
Report trilby22 June 13, 2018 6:16 PM BST
Yup, CARD to detraveller Angry
Report timbuctooth June 13, 2018 6:19 PM BST
SontaranStratagem    13 Jun 18 12:44 
I was willing to give Trump his due but as I said either on this thread or the other, his supporters are so arrogant about it its a case of just saying well done is a patronizing tone. I hope the North Korean people finally see some freedoms because of it.
The trump brigade and the alt right are basically going "ner ner ner" because of this though, and they want to be seen as the grown ups

Here we go, good and right thinking people, the latest reason for dismissing the truth! Apparently, just because a few Chit Chatters weren`t suitably sympathetic to the shattered illusions of lefties, The Don`s LONG list of achievements didn`t actually happen!!! You best get back in your `Safe Space For Snowflakes`, SS; I hear they`ll even give you a Participation Trophy
Report trilby22 June 13, 2018 6:21 PM BST

Jun 13, 2018 -- 1:58PM, detraveller wrote:


Must be the opposite of alt left.


So what's with the "alt"?  Alternative?  Alternative what?

Report detraveller June 13, 2018 7:50 PM BST
I don't know trilby. But I do know its one of those labels that people conveniently give each other when they want to blame any issue on the other side(not their side).
Report Whisperingdeath June 13, 2018 8:49 PM BST
He does a deal and doesn't even tell his Allies, the very people he is there to help protect wtf is going on and makes unilateral decisions that affect their security

How can any country look to the USA as an ally when President Idiot is in charge? The World is going to have to look to president Xi for stability and leadership. Chump and America would be a laughing stock if the implications that are currently being studies weren't so serious.
Report SontaranStratagem June 13, 2018 8:50 PM BST
I don't entirely disagree on making Tradeau look foolish though, that bloke wears fake eye brows.
Report lfc1971 June 13, 2018 8:52 PM BST
^ probably thought chairman mao was a good guy as well
Report lfc1971 June 13, 2018 8:53 PM BST
* wd probably thought
Report Whisperingdeath June 13, 2018 8:55 PM BST
stop being silly and go back to your village lfc, they need youWink!
Report Whisperingdeath June 13, 2018 8:55 PM BST
stop being silly and go back to your village lfc, they need youWink!
Report lfc1971 June 13, 2018 9:07 PM BST
wd don't be calling president Xi silly, he wouldn't like that

that's all you need to know about his kind of leadership
Report lfc1971 June 13, 2018 9:11 PM BST
president kim is much the same I imagine
Report Whisperingdeath June 14, 2018 3:23 PM BST
That is because Preseident Xi is not stupid!

Far from upsetting his closest Allies and trade partners he is building a strong coalition including India and Russia in the SCO Group of nations representing almost half the World's population.

What is Chump doing? Travelling 10,000 miles to meet a Dictator for a photo shoot that has returned nothing, kwality!

The USA is going alienate everybody but its enemies! Well done Chump!
Report lfc1971 June 14, 2018 3:48 PM BST
yes WD that's better, President Xi would be happy, good boy

This year a Chinese court sentenced a man to two years in prison for the apparently heinous crime of referring , in private messages to friends,to President Xi Jinping as ,

"steamed bun Xi"

no idea what it means but he was found guilty of negative thoughts
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