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moisok
03 Jun 18 12:49
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Really scary stuff.
I am waiting to see the court cases and find out what these vile characters are like.  Lock them up for ever like any other person who threatens others' lives.
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Report moisok June 3, 2018 12:57 PM BST
Home secretary points to growing danger from far-right groups as well as Islamists

this is how the guardian headlines it - far right first  - interesting - AS WELL AS ISLAMISTS
ho ho  - naughty little mischief makers are they not.

here's the rest of it
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jun/03/uk-faces-two-years-of-severe-terrorism-threat-warns-home-office
Report moisok June 3, 2018 1:21 PM BST
they are worried about terrorism and  have stopped a dozen islamist plots,  but are worried about the 'growth of right wing VIOLENCE'  why the difference in terminology - or am I being pedantic here?

In another article Mark Rowley ex deputy Met commissioner points out how Tommy robinson is implicated in the radicalisation of right wingers leading to terrorist acts etc etc.
Now you know why they want him in jail.  He is put alongside some of those Islamists who urge terrorist actions.

But seriously just how much of a threat were any of these foiled plots and will we ever know?

There is more violence and deaths in london per day than any of the above terrorism has caused.

  They have 1900 extra MI5 employed now.  Jobs for the boys and girls eh!!

How are they doing with the Landan violence - how's that doing?

Just work out.  Trying to scare us about threats for what reason?  But doing little to combat the Landan disease?  Just some thoughts in response to the latest from dear old Sajid.
Report moisok June 3, 2018 1:22 PM BST
What I do know is there are more killings and attempted killings/violence in landan than anything any terrorists have caused.
Thoughts on this please.
Report moisok June 3, 2018 1:36 PM BST
Apparently police powers are being expanded and rules for opening fire by armed police to be altered.

Early intervention against terrorist suspects to be implemented.??!!
Report moisok June 3, 2018 1:55 PM BST
Early start today in Landon 4am guy found stabbed - very badly injured.
Report casemoney June 3, 2018 2:08 PM BST
That'll be your right winger Marauding type Mois .
Report moisok June 3, 2018 2:19 PM BST
now I know - thank you case

what intrigues me is the whole slant on this 'terrorism' compared to the landan problem

like comparing the damage done by 'terrorists'  with the huge number of injuries to people and the number of deaths on the streets

Big investment, tons of concern and lots and lots of spying, intelligence seeking, and changes of rules for police etc but mention the landan problem ............
Report Get me a drink June 3, 2018 5:30 PM BST
Ooh, those darned right wing terrorists. Quick, better arm the police to the hilt and shoot anyone who looks like they might possibly make a slight fuss on sight just in case.

Hmmm, better change the law first so there's no comeback, yeah that's better.
Report moisok June 3, 2018 5:52 PM BST
It's the intervention earlier bit that intrigues me.
Report 1st time poster June 4, 2018 1:40 PM BST
don't like this khan fella always wary of people using members of their family to form policy idea,we,ve so far had him using himself,his brother and now his daughter,probably 3 of the most privileged people in the country % wise. ps not a single person in this world including khans daughter believes you get attacked for drawing cartoons,its the likes of khan whov,e introduced hate laws for anything and everything
Report Whisperingdeath June 4, 2018 2:23 PM BST
What hate laws has Khan introduced as a matter of interest?
Report 1st time poster June 4, 2018 2:49 PM BST
the torys no count all sorts of opinions which were freedoms of speech this time last year as hate speech now, bloke won a talent show on tv last night for spouting stuff for which if I or frankie boyle had spouted some snowflake would want us arrested for hate speech
Report STUDYFORM June 4, 2018 3:08 PM BST

Jun 4, 2018 -- 2:49PM, 1st time poster wrote:


the torys no count all sorts of opinions which were freedoms of speech this time last year as hate speech now, bloke won a talent show on tv last night for spouting stuff for which if I or frankie boyle had spouted some snowflake would want us arrested for hate speech


That isn't true. You just get told that is what will happen.
These "Snowflakes" don't get anyone arrested - in the main people can say pretty much what they like, but the Newspapers will tell you they will.
I'm no friend of Khan - but I think you are vastly overrating his powers: its the likes of khan whov,e introduced hate laws for anything and everything

Report STUDYFORM June 4, 2018 3:12 PM BST
The most worrying thing isn't the right wing terrorism.
It's the constant 'Right-wing' chipping away at nearly everything on forums like this, by people who do little or nothing else, on forums and chat-rooms and radio phone-ins and comments sections of every newspaper and TV show, that is frightening.

It's how we eventually get to Gilead! (See Handmaids Tale).
Report Whisperingdeath June 4, 2018 3:15 PM BST
Sorry 1st time poster,

What hate laws did Khan introduce or help introduce?

the torys no count all sorts of opinions which were freedoms of speech this time last year as hate speech now,

So it wasn't Khan at all? It was the Tories?
Report Dr Crippen June 4, 2018 3:20 PM BST
It's the constant 'Right-wing' chipping away at nearly everything on forums like this,

Perhaps they should leave the field clear for the ''Left-wing'' to chip away unopposed?
Report jed.davison June 4, 2018 3:28 PM BST
Stidyform doesn't believe other people should be able to hold or express an opinion which does not coincide with his own.

This is how the liberal mind works these days.
Report Whisperingdeath June 4, 2018 3:33 PM BST
or the lies

its the likes of khan whov,e introduced hate laws for anything and everything
Report Whisperingdeath June 4, 2018 3:33 PM BST
or the lies

its the likes of khan whov,e introduced hate laws for anything and everything
Report aaronh June 4, 2018 3:34 PM BST
Khan, the left, Corbyn etc and all others all wish they were as mighty and powerful as it's claimed
Report Whisperingdeath June 4, 2018 3:41 PM BST
and do you know Khan, the left, Corbyn etc and all others to be able to make that claim? Have you met Khan or Corbyn, the left and all others to be able to make that a true statement or have you just made it up?
Report aaronh June 4, 2018 3:46 PM BST
I think you misunderstood the context of my post
Report Platini June 4, 2018 3:48 PM BST
they really believe that they can take people for complete mugs with their spinning of stats. Laugh


any idiot with a brain cell knows if you want to compare different terrorist events, you either have to

a) do a simple body count  (who has murdered more people ?  hint - its not even a contest)

or

b) if you ignore body count (as the establishment does, conveniently) then you have to look at the numbers of people committing the terrorist acts AS A PERCENTAGE of their total population in this country. (and guess what, one group is massively outscoring all the rest on this front).


Its like warning us about a global rise in methemoglobinemia, while downplaying the dangers of AIDS or Tuberculosis  Crazy
Report Whisperingdeath June 4, 2018 3:55 PM BST
I think I must have aaronh,

Apologies if I have construed it in the wrong way!

What should they know of England who only England know
Report STUDYFORM June 4, 2018 4:01 PM BST
I don't see too many threads starting with titles like this one, AND MEANING IT!

Same old agenda, same old people saying the same old crap.

Jed. I have views which would astound you, as it so happens. I have no problem with people agreeing OR disagreeing with me. You have no comprehension of how my mind works, as for deciding it's a "Liberal" one - Well, depending on the definition of Liberal, it's possible.
You -for a change- are talking to me in the 3rd person... When will you lot realise I'm not that important?

Crippen, like others on here, you see everything in "wings".

Personally I wish you and the others who do little else should bugger off back to the politics forum where you escaped from.
Report PorcupineorPineapple June 4, 2018 4:04 PM BST
When are we going to step back and realise it's men that are the problem. Patriarchy, masculinity.

It's the unifying factor in it all. You can be right wing, left wing, from Iraq or Ipswich but it's always men who are doing it.
Report InsiderTrader June 4, 2018 4:19 PM BST
PP,

Unfortunately the latest conviction goes against all your lies and nonsense..

A teenager has been found guilty of plotting a terror attack on the British Museum in London with Britain's first all-woman cell.

Safaa Boular, 18, of Vauxhall, London, has become Britain's youngest convicted female Islamic State terrorist.

A jury at the Old Bailey found her guilty of two offences of preparation of terrorism acts.

She was also found guilty over an earlier attempt to travel to Syria for terrorism.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44359751
Report PorcupineorPineapple June 4, 2018 4:20 PM BST
The example proves the rule IT.

Statistically speaking it's so far in the men camp that anything else is an anomaly.
Report Dr Crippen June 4, 2018 4:26 PM BST
Personally I wish you and the others who do little else should bugger off back to the politics forum where you escaped from.


Guess who's got his arse in his hand again.
Report Dr Crippen June 4, 2018 4:31 PM BST
It's the constant 'Right-wing' chipping away at nearly everything on forums like this,

He posts that above, then next he posts this below:

Crippen, like others on here, you see everything in "wings".


Doesn't he ever think about what he's written before he clicks?
Report jed.davison June 4, 2018 4:38 PM BST
No
Report jed.davison June 4, 2018 5:01 PM BST
Reads crippen's post you muppet, and STFU.
Report moisok June 4, 2018 8:13 PM BST
This latest court case mentioned is all rather pathetic.  If this is one of the 12 attacks they have foiled this year then I say SUCKS BOO to the authorities.  Have you ever read the detail that has been released.  About as dangerous as wet lettuce.
  I also look forward to the 4 'right wing' attacks that were foiled, when they appear.
Do you think they are trying to frighten the populace.  My mate Sajid is using the increase in right wing VIOLENCE to intercept suspect behavior much earlier.  I wonder how far this goes??  Remember all those UKIP viewers or youngsters viewing sites about hitler/nazis - all being reported to be at risk. Even visits by plod to some children. 
I was wondering how one would learn about the rise of fascim without refering to history books or on line information about the disaster of Hitler and the failure of social democracy.   Probably the most important event for the world in recent modern history.

1984 is not here yet but we are certainly somewhere around 1970 ish.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jun/04/how-london-teenager-plotted-attacks-with-all-female-terror-cell
Report Platini June 4, 2018 10:22 PM BST
PP, au contraire.   I'd say women have played a major role in all of this. Its mainly women that are behind the cancer of political correctness.
They've been driving that agenda from day one.
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