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14 May 18
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Seems to be some push back against victims of crime being arrested if they are illegal immigrants.
The issue is people are being abused because the perps know they will not go to the police because they are illegal.
In this case both people are breaking the law. Being a victim of crime does not mean you are not a criminal yourself for being here illegally.
They keep making excuses as to why we should be soft on illegals. They are called illegals for a reason. They are jumping the queue and have no right to be in the UK.
The solution is to give double sentences to anyone committing this type of crime on an illegal and to send the illegal home.
Seems to be some push back against victims of crime being arrested if they are illegal immigrants.
The issue is people are being abused because the perps know they will not go to the police because they are illegal.
In this case both people are breaking the law. Being a victim of crime does not mean you are not a criminal yourself for being here illegally.
They keep making excuses as to why we should be soft on illegals. They are called illegals for a reason. They are jumping the queue and have no right to be in the UK.
The solution is to give double sentences to anyone committing this type of crime on an illegal and to send the illegal home.
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Ms Ali thinks Sara should never have been arrested at all.
"It's shocking to know that victims of crime are being seen and treated as criminals just because of their status." You status is you are here illegally. You are a criminal. |
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The solution is to give double sentences to anyone committing this type of crime on an illegal and to send the illegal home.
Your solution would simply ensure that said crime is never reported, with the victim either suppressing it or seeking revenge outside of the system. Also a court would throw your proposed double sentence out quicker than you could say discrimination. |
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What is the alternative? Give citizenship to any illegal if they are a victim of crime?
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Jesus, is that really the only alternative you can think of. Either punish both or let them off? That it?
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What else is there?
Turn a blind eye to people committing the crime of being here illegally when the police know they are breaking the law? |
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You guys really need to learn how to read news. Especially after knowing what the media does. This is one lawyer's opinion. One Lawyer. Opinion. What do you expect her to say? You realize she is just asking the police to treat her clients in a specific way, one that suits her practice?
If this continues, people won't bother going to police, even with their lawyers. And this effects her business. So she doesn't want it to be that way. Simple as that. And she isnt really stupid. She just states that the govt wants to protect 'all women' from domestic abuse but she criticizes the same govt for treating illegal women differently. As a lawyer, she is exactly doing the job she is paid to do. When you are milking money out of the system working for abused women, and someone asks you to fight two cases instead of one every time, wouldn't you complain? She's a lawyer ffs. |
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Fair enough. Continue with your crusade. But again, if you're going to send vans out on the streets proclaiming that you, the victim, will be deported if you report a crime then you're going to see not many reported. Pretty straight forward really.
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Its the attitude that is wrong..
"It's shocking to know that victims of crime are being seen and treated as criminals just because of their status." People seem to think it is not a serious crime to be here illegally. They just think it is a 'status' mix up or something. |
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I think people already dont report crimes. Especially outsiders who are used to never report anything to police in their own countries.
The problem is when you go to a lawyer, it has to be reported. And that reporting causes the issue Miss Suleiha Ali is complaining about, because it's a headache for her. |
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Just a question about the opening post. The bit which is intended to be emotive.
They keep making excuses as to why we should be soft on illegals. They are called illegals for a reason. They are jumping the queue and have no right to be in the UK. Who is They? |
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BBC, human rights lawyers, Globalists, Multinationals, Weak politicians.
Remember the same thing happened after the Grenfell fire and after the poor lad was washed up on the beach a couple of summers ago. |
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If someone is a victim of crime then the perpetrator should be dealt with by the justice system.
If the victim is here illegally then they should also be dealt with by the relevant authority. The fact they've been on the receiving end of a criminal act should make no odds. |
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quite right lybertyne.
It has nothing to do with politicking |
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As IT says it has everything to do with politicking
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Of course libertine implies it is to do with poliylticking also, but studyform doesn’t seem to understand
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As always, lfc, I bow to your superior intellect, knowledge and wisdom.
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You haven’t said thanks to IT for letting you know who “they are”
either , Very rude |
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and your ability to correct my social misgivings.
Even if it was my mistake to think that BBC, human rights lawyers, Globalists, Multinationals, Weak politicians. hadn't actually complained in that story and it was just another attempt for I.T. to push his regular point on this forum. If you start a thread lfc, allowing me to post anything I want to post first for your analysis and approval, before actually committing it to any designated thread, I'll do my best to run them all by you. Only I'd hate not to be up to code. |
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you, re welcome study I don’t mind you being rude, look at it this way if you are not rude I might feel obliged not to be rude to you
and that is something I might wish to avoid |
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"Sara" came to the UK with her partner - a British citizen. But she says she was treated like a slave.
"He told me, 'That's why I brought you here, so you can cook and clean for me,'" she explains. "He beat me with a belt and a cable." Is that the best the BBC can do. That reads to me like Sara didn't want to be brought to the UK in the first place. She's offered deportation, which is free travel, back to her country, and now she's kicking off and doesn't want to leave. So what's the real story here. It sounds like a complicated play for citizenship. Notice that the partner's story isn't told, we don't known if he's been punished, and he gets no right of reply. This tale does not add up, and this is the best one they've got to say how horrible the British Home office are. How rubbish must all the other cases be. Please. |