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Shocking statistics reveal that more than 20,000 'additional deaths' have occurred in England and Wales in the first 16 weeks of this year. Academics remain baffled by the spike in fatalities, which prompted several to demand a Government investigation into the matter.
However, some statisticians believe the crisis engulfing the NHS and cuts in care, along with the killer winter flu outbreak, are factors that should be taken into consideration.
The figures, from the Office for National Statistics, showed there were 20,215 more deaths in the first 16 weeks of 2018 compared to the previous five years - namely, 198,943 compared to an average of 178,778. The numbers show a 11.3 per cent increase in mortality. The 20,215 figure is equivalent to an extra person dropping dead every eight minutes throughout the first 16 weeks of the year, The Telegraph reported.
Statisticians claimed in February that the killer winter flu outbreak was to blame for a 42 per cent spike in deaths across England and Wales. Government figures revealed 64,157 people died in January - significantly higher than the death toll of 45,141 recorded in December.
This was the highest number since records began in 2006 - and only the second time it had breached 60,000. 'Circulating influenza' was blamed in a report compiled using data of deaths from each region.
It showed deaths were higher than levels recorded during the Swine flu pandemic in 2010 - considered the worst outbreak in recent years. The ONS report showed a similar trend in deaths was seen in all nine regions of England and Wales itself. It read: 'Circulating influenza is likely to be a contributing factor in the high number of deaths registered in January 2018.'
Some 10,011 deaths were recorded in the South East, followed by 8,625 in the North West and 7,110 in the East of England. At the other end of the scale, 3,503 people died in the North East in January, 3,945 in Wales and 5,401 in the East Midlands.
Figures in February showed the flu outbreak killed at least 271 people, but this is likely to have been an underestimate because it only counted for confirmed hospital deaths. In March, top academics published an editorial for the British Medial Journal voicing concerns about the spike in deaths. One of its authors Professor Danny Dorling, of the University of Oxford, told The Daily Telegraph: 'We would like is an urgent investigation by the House of Commons health select committee. 'The Department of Health and Social Care is not taking the slowdown in improvements in mortality seriously.'
A Department for Health and Social Care spokesperson told the paper: 'We keep all research in this area under review, but the "age standardised mortality rate" - which had been broadly stable in recent years - is considered a much more reliable measure, as this type of research doesn't take into account fluctuations in population numbers and the ageing population.
However, some statisticians believe the crisis engulfing the NHS and cuts in care, along with the killer winter flu outbreak, are factors that should be taken into consideration.
The figures, from the Office for National Statistics, showed there were 20,215 more deaths in the first 16 weeks of 2018 compared to the previous five years - namely, 198,943 compared to an average of 178,778. The numbers show a 11.3 per cent increase in mortality. The 20,215 figure is equivalent to an extra person dropping dead every eight minutes throughout the first 16 weeks of the year, The Telegraph reported.
Statisticians claimed in February that the killer winter flu outbreak was to blame for a 42 per cent spike in deaths across England and Wales. Government figures revealed 64,157 people died in January - significantly higher than the death toll of 45,141 recorded in December.
This was the highest number since records began in 2006 - and only the second time it had breached 60,000. 'Circulating influenza' was blamed in a report compiled using data of deaths from each region.
It showed deaths were higher than levels recorded during the Swine flu pandemic in 2010 - considered the worst outbreak in recent years. The ONS report showed a similar trend in deaths was seen in all nine regions of England and Wales itself. It read: 'Circulating influenza is likely to be a contributing factor in the high number of deaths registered in January 2018.'
Some 10,011 deaths were recorded in the South East, followed by 8,625 in the North West and 7,110 in the East of England. At the other end of the scale, 3,503 people died in the North East in January, 3,945 in Wales and 5,401 in the East Midlands.
Figures in February showed the flu outbreak killed at least 271 people, but this is likely to have been an underestimate because it only counted for confirmed hospital deaths. In March, top academics published an editorial for the British Medial Journal voicing concerns about the spike in deaths. One of its authors Professor Danny Dorling, of the University of Oxford, told The Daily Telegraph: 'We would like is an urgent investigation by the House of Commons health select committee. 'The Department of Health and Social Care is not taking the slowdown in improvements in mortality seriously.'
A Department for Health and Social Care spokesperson told the paper: 'We keep all research in this area under review, but the "age standardised mortality rate" - which had been broadly stable in recent years - is considered a much more reliable measure, as this type of research doesn't take into account fluctuations in population numbers and the ageing population.
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Depopularisation in progress happy days
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World powers are dictating won't matter who's in power,there has to be something wrong when we've got more than ever in every sense yet we're all living longer ill and cancer rates for the young are increasing despite all of the donations we send worrying all round
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No wonder The Remainers are confident about another vote
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Seems to be alot more auto immune illnesses and slow growing cancers than ever then we've got the diabetes and EMF ticking timebombs,healthy life top priority for me these days I'm a boring fart but at least I can say I tried at the end of the day
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Missed out Dementia and Alzheimer's more illnesses most likely linked to our diets and lifestyles.
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Well no point spraying the skies if it isn't going to do us harm is there! G5 you are gonna wish you were dead
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Surely it's just linked to the wave of respiratory diseases over the winter and the fact that there are far, far more elderly people around nowadays who are basically waiting for that last big infection to kick them off.
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Breaking down the figures by age and demographic would give a clearer picture.
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I suspect that Pop is right. The flu vaccine didn't protect against the virulent strain circulating during the winter and in the elderly, flu often leads to pneumonia as the immune system is weakened. Some of us old f@rts had a close scrape and others fell off their perches. The extra deaths and the unusually high demand on the NHS are not surprising.
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Stress. Brought on by financial worry, harder working conditions than for many years and other individually experienced reasons.
It's a big killer. Add the ruination of the Health Service and the distance and time many sick and emergency cases are from any treatment and you get figures like this, which will almost certainly get worse. |
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Stress. Brought on by financial worry, harder working conditions than for many years and other individually experienced reasons.
Life is far too rushed now. The concept of "Boxset Binging" is symptomatic of this. People can't slow down and wait; they have to have and do everything now now now. This must create unnecessary stress as people think they're not doing/getting enough at once. |
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Nearly everything we do is done in order to make money, usually for some huge company, or for some form of tax. We're all under more pressure than ever before.
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It's old age.
Although there's no need to age prematurely like so many of us choose, and then have to suffer for the last couple of decades of our lives if we do manage to keep going. Unfortunately the health advice we get from mainstream sources is less than ideal. The link between cancer, heart disease, and eating meat has long been established. Also the link between drinking and the aforementioned killers has also been firmly established, yet people choose to ignore them. The link between over indulgence and diabetes is clear as well. Yet who's listening? These statement aren't the findings of fringe studies, these facts come from the NHS itself. You have to look after yourself because no one else will, and the first step is to question our diets. We couldn't have been designed to eat animal products and drink alcohol safely, or they wouldn't be killing us. |
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might well be old age crippen
the original post might confirm that if it showed ages of those that died and in previous 5 years. |
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If you want to know why, visit any NHS ward in any hospital in London. In the "old" days more people were saved when there was time to care for them and doctors actually treated patients as humans and not numbers. I know of one person who the doctor tried to convince to have do not resuscitate on her records while she was in hospital. The lady would not hear of it because she was not in actual danger, so the doc flounced of in a temper! Too much demand for too little resources. Glad I am my age and have private insurance! Another example I know of- waiting time on the NHS for a prostate op -6 months plus. Waiting time from first consultation to leaving hospital after prostate op under private care- 3 weeks!
How can anyone get better in a over crowded NHS ward when one is surrounded by coughing spluttering people, some with dementia calling out all night, with over worked nurses who have had the care knocked out of them by the system! |
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Been watching that Hospital series that was on a few weeks ago. Sky plussed it and watched the one about the paediatric ward last night.
Firstly, it just confirms that these doctors and nurses are just frankly heroes day in day out. Not sure what the comment about doctors now treating patients as numbers not humans. Nothing could be further from the truth. But I saw the clip for the next episode which is about the geriatric ward and seems to ram home the point of the lack of joined up thinking between the NHS and social services. Seemed to be many cases of bed blocking, where elderly people have been successfully treated for their ailment but can't be sent home because there's no one to care for them. Just a ridiculous state of affairs we've gotten ourselves into. And I can't help think it's been a deliberate ploy to simply run down the NHS so people start seeing private care as a realistic alternative. Sure the NHS will still offer you a hip op, but you'll have to wait nine months in constant agony. But if you can cough up ... then we'll get you sorted in a few days! |
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PP- my comment is based on first hand observation over 3 month periods during 2015, 2016/ 2017 in 3 different London hospitals. There is no doubt geographical variation.
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Billions being lost every year to health tourism
NHS doctors and nurse and managers complicate in the scandal |
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londoners. tsk.
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Of course we might have a few more older people, we also have 1.4 million people working in the NHS
Now there is something badly wrong , just how many sick people are there in Britain ? |
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1.4 million seems a huge figure to me didn't know that lfc.
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yes it’s almost unbelievable but it’s between 1.4 and 1.5 million
Also they might want to look a little closer at the qualifications and competence of some of the staff the NHS employs From every corner of the world, it might have a bearing on the figures relating to treatment etc |
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good point though they'll then probably claim they're being victimised
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1.7 million, and not enough !
https://www.nuffieldtrust.org.uk/resource/the-nhs-workforce-in-numbers |
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10 million more to deal so no pressure there then
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It's them there chemtrails!
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I'm alright my tin foil hat comes with drop down gas mask
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Percy has come in.....at last
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Elderly neighbour went into hospital just a while ago, she would be part of these statistics
Saw her out and about doing her shopping on the Monday and she was in hospital on Tuesday when told the operation couldnt be performed, staff problems, she suggested that she would go home Was told no to stay in hospital operation was done the next day Everything seemed ok, she was dead on Thursday ps no need for the operation , keyhole surgery It was a foreign doctor |
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I'd buy a decent tin foil hat if anyone wants to produce and market one might be a necessity in the not too distant future
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lead paint Den
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The wrong type of people are going into medicine in any event
Last time I was visiting someone the main consultant come onto the ward and a number of trainee student doctors learning the trade Once upon a time they would have been all men but it was remarkable how many were women The female brain is not suited to |
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*not suited to being doctors or surgeons etc,
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So it will take time of course but we are seeing the perfect storm
too many people, too many foreign health tourists meaning funding increasingly difficult employing of staff from other countries and no way of knowing if they are qualified and our own medical people increasingly incompetent anyway because they are the wrong type of people And then of course the statistics are only going to become worse |
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No way of accusing any of them for fear of being labelled a bigot etc. we'll be dead a good while before anything changes lfc.
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In Britains hospitals more people perish than want to
Who could deny that? |
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Completely agree with lfc1971. I'm also very dubious of imported doctors and nursing staff.
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^^With regard to their qualifications of course.
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There is something wrong if, ok an elderly neighbour , is out and about on Monday
and dead on thursday |