Moped Attacks

meanwhile on a planet called KHAN'S LANDAN our dear mayor makes the streets safer

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-44071809

soon we will no longer be in danger from obese people crushing us on the street

Harsh Moisy.

Khan(t) is ACTUALLY preventing us from bombs...

'The Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, says he wants to tackle the "ticking time bomb" of child obesity in the capital.'

Apart from sewing up peoples mouths, none of what little Khan does will do anything to combat obesity.
He's simply trying to divert attention away from the issues that he could do something about if the will was there.

Did I just not post that with a wink, no disrespect bud

23k !!!

time to start selling scooters.

Spot on IB we are in the wrong Buisness , absolute Carnage Going on ..

Did I just not post that with a wink, no disrespect bud

Why not attempt to express yourself in English next time?

No disrespect from me either - bud.

Quite right it's not bud...........its geezer !

Im going to start a business selling 3/4 seater scooters, i have seen the market for it. They will also have the added extras of holding up to 4 bottles, for people that like to drink a lot of water, also places for 4 lump hammers.

I can really see this business evolving, in the future it may have holders for an AK-47 or a shotgun.

Time for me to present this opportunity on dragons den.

JAPAN absolutely Delighted with the on going popularity of the the Two wheelers..

Im going to start a business selling 3/4 seater scooters, i have seen the market for it. They will also have the added extras of holding up to 4 bottles, for people that like to drink a lot of water, also places for 4 lump hammers.

I can really see this business evolving, in the future it may have holders for an AK-47 or a shotgun.

Time for me to present this opportunity on dragons den.

And if they reject you, you can always rob the coonts

Or another idea, wigs glued to helmets so you still have head protection but the Old Bill won't chase you because that think your not wearing a helmet.......who says crime don't pay

They are doing pretty good without any input, the percentages are to die for. You try starting a business up with a 10,000 % increase over 5 years.

To be fair, at least they are avoiding the congestion charge..

dan

NORTH YORKSHIRE 0 MOPED ATTACKS, LOWEST CRIME RATE, LOWEST MULTICULTARISM - THE FACTS ARE THERE, FACTIST NOT RACIST

It's good to see one sent down. It gives the rest of us some SOME hope.

Do they use L plates?

I'd vote for the equivalent of a Hitler or Mussolini if they promised to rid this country of the criminal element that has mushroomed out of control. The liberal luvvies that have insidiously infiltrated our great institutions need to be swept away before they do anymore damage with their constant bleatings about 'human rights' and concern for the scum violators rather than the victims. For a start the police need to be given proper powers to stop and search,tap telephones,go after moped drivers etc.Who cares a jot if a moped rider bag snatcher is killed because he's not wearing a helmet.
Eradicate the scum and this country would be a great place in which to live.

Bazooka them  3 warnings to Stop if no compliance  BOOOM ..

Imagine people trying to Insure a scooter in London

Caught up with my local MP yesterday amongst issues I raised, one was moped crime. As stated on another post the decision not to chase them if not wearing a helmet is a police decision, not the Home Secretary.Stopping Stop and search was however a Home office directive

Does anyone think the police institution is ACTUALLY REALLY interested in protecting individuals' rights to go around unmolested by so many scum elements - at least I know of three distinct groups the police tread very carefully around when anything goes down.  The directions from the top clearly point to a new type of racism.

Terrible what happened to McIntyre,

Carjacked after picking his 10 yr old

Up from school, stole his Rolex, but at

Least they are both safe. Time

To stop fannying about and hammer these

Lowlifes. Just robbed another jewellers

Now, at least they got one by the looks

Of it.

along with ridiculous house prices,cost of living
commuting
knife,gun crime
lack of english voices
2nd rate epl teams
£5 beers and coffees

moped crime just another of the quaint pastimes londoners seem willing to work to death to live amidist

May 13, 2018 -- 1:15PM, posy wrote:

I'd vote for the equivalent of a Hitler or Mussolini if they promised to rid this country of the criminal element that has mushroomed out of control. The liberal luvvies that have insidiously infiltrated our great institutions need to be swept away before they do anymore damage with their constant bleatings about 'human rights' and concern for the scum violators rather than the victims. For a start the police need to be given proper powers to stop and search,tap telephones,go after moped drivers etc.Who cares a jot if a moped rider bag snatcher is killed because he's not wearing a helmet.Eradicate the scum and this country would be a great place in which to live.

Sums the forum up.

What "Liberal luvvies"?
When has ANYONE defended the bastrads who commit these crimes?

The whole thing is righteous indignation and blame!

I have said time and again that labels like liberal lovies, lefties, muslim apologists etc etc are out there to keep the sheep busy.

The moped issue is actually about a law that holds police personnel responsible(after due investigation) for injuries to suspects during chase. This was an existing law. it wasn't created by liberal lovies who just infiltrated the police force. The argument is, that this law should be scrapped so that police officers can actually catch a criminal instead of worrying about their own job.

Two weeks ago, the govt did present proposals to change this law. And to make it absolutely clear in the law that during a chase, the criminal will himself be responsible for injuries. Of course that didn't make it to this thread, because there weren't any labels to be passed around. But until this moment, no one even bothered to ask the lawmakers how they were progressing because assuming that all of them are liberal luvvies is much more fun than inquiring what their progress is.

I am not denying that there are serious issues in England related to PC and stuff. But when you start assigning each of these issue a label and then keep beating the label, you are actually helping the very people who aren't doing their job.

For a start the police need to be given proper powers to stop and search,tap telephones,go after moped drivers etc
This is a typical example of you giving the police too many powers for an issue that can simply be solved by a small adjustment in law. it is a different matter altogether that the purpose of most of the issues in England today is to convince you that you need to give the govt more power.

detraveller the existing law that you say has been in place for many years that holds police responsible for injuries to suspects during a chase does not exist (in that sense, of course the police are accountable if they hit someone over the head)

That is why they were able to chase moped crime in the very recent past
but seemingly not now, why not?
could it be those liberal leftist luvvies again, the ones you don't seem to think exist?
I don't know.

Muggers Driving round not even Bothering with Number Plates ,Its Gone

The docu on iplayer is interesting. Some of them believe it's "their money?" LOL really. These zombies who walk while texting are asking for trouble though.

Jun 6, 2018 -- 2:31PM, lfc1971 wrote:

detraveller the existing law that you say has been in place for many years that holds police responsible for injuries to suspects during a chase does not exist (in that sense, of course the police are accountable if they hit someone over the head)That is why they were able to chase moped crime in the very recent pastbut seemingly not now, why not?could it be those liberal leftist luvvies again, the ones you don't seem to think exist?I don't know.

The law doesn't exist? Are you sure?

of course the police are accountable if they hit someone over the head
Not relevant to what I said. No one is talking about hitting anyone. You seem to not have grasped the issue at all,hence your denial of the existence of such a law.

By the way, I never said liberal luvvies don't exist. I just said using liberal luvvies as a punching bag is not gonna get you anywhere. Asking the right people the right questions is required. Which no one wants to do. Because. The liberal luvvies punching bag.

Here's something to at least get you away from the liberal luvvies punching bag and more closer to the law im talking about.

Under current law, the same legal test for careless and dangerous driving offences is applied to police and the general public.
This is in contrast to the laws where the police don't need to care about red lights, traffic signs etc etc when in pursuit.
As i mentioned, govt has already proposed changes. And anyone who wants to know more can direct his frustrations there, instead of just punching the liberal luvvies label. That was the point.

I am afraid detraveller that law is neither here nor there , that has always been the case I should imagine forever

But that has nothing to do with  pursuing criminals on mopeds now has it
Or if it does why were the police able to do so until very recently and back into the many years before that ?

Now what has changed in these last few years , if no law has changed
Take your time and don’t come back with some more irrelevent nonsense

I think it's Hilarious tbh

I'd rather watch moped crime than any garbage on Tv (unless Lucy Zara is on one of them 900 channels it's a toss up)

The immigrants will be arriving on them through the Tunnel soon in armies

Four to a bike with a kid in the sandwich box

Jun 6, 2018 -- 7:21PM, lfc1971 wrote:

I am afraid detraveller that law is neither here nor there , that has always been the case I should imagine forever But that has nothing to do with  pursuing criminals on mopeds now has it Or if it does why were the police able to do so until very recently and back into the many years before that ?Now what has changed in these last few years , if no law has changed Take your time and don’t come back with some more irrelevent nonsense

Good to see you have at least accepted the existence of the law. Now its neither here nor there, which I am assuming is the less severe form of something not existing at all.

If you have made up your mind that the liberal lovies are behind all this, I woldn't try to change your mind. Don't have time to waste on that(not just with you, but the subject in general).

Irrespective of whether you or me are right, my initial position was that there are specific people that can be held responsible for moped issue. But no one is bothering to ask them because everyone is automatically assuming some invisible liberal luvvies are behind it. It might well be 100% true. But why do people find it so hard to question the responsible people in the govt, instead of just whining about the invisible liberal lovies?

Also, I hope you have realized by now that we are not talking about police hitting anyone. In fact, the topic of discussion doesn't even involve contact between the police and the criminal.

Or if it does why were the police able to do so until very recently and back into the many years before that ?

Maybe the Mopeds got faster with better fuel consumption or the gangs now attach rocket propelled grenade launchers on the sides

you didn’t manage to reply without more nonsense did you detraveller ?

Let me take you slowly through this

There is a law  but that law has been in existence forever

Police  in the recent past were able to pursue moped criminals

They don’t now , why not ?

Not strictly true, I saw footage of a met

Police car chasing a reported stolen

moped only the other day, there may be

guidelines about not chasing those where

the rider is not wearing a helmet.

Yes but of course there may be new guidelines

that is just the point , the police in the very recent past and back over the many years before that , were able to pursue mophed criminals

But not now , why not is the question

lfc is correct;police don't chase moped scumbags in case they cause the moped to crash and the riders are injured/killed thus leaving the pursuers open to being charged for not carrying out risk assessments etc/causing injury or death...you couldn't make it up. Just put the little bug gers down and have done with it.

Hmmm, villains who think nothing of taking risks, up against Police who have to make risk assessments before deciding whether to do what they are paid for. What could possibly go wrong.

The footage i saw of the chase was very recent, i am still not sure that they ( police ) have been told not to chase.

lfc1971 • June 6, 2018 2:31 PM BST
detraveller the existing law that you say has been in place for many years...does not exist

lfc1971 • June 6, 2018 7:21 PM BST
I am afraid detraveller that law is neither here nor there

lfc1971 • June 8, 2018 7:26 AM BST
Yes but of course there may be new guidelines

Lfc, be nice for a change and accept this time it was you talking nonsense?

The day when all the police are armed draws nearer.

The first obstacle to overcome is the fuss that is made after a criminal is shot by a policeman. Where the police officer is suspended while an enquiry takes place.

This is unacceptable and puts the police officer in the dock for doing his job.
A quick judgement should be made by the officer's commanding officer in these cases and settled on the spot, with little of this suspension business and long-winded enquiries.

We're at the point where police officers are reluctant to carry firearms because of the above.

ah detraveller now you are getting there , slowly

You now understand that there is no new law

That the law as I said was in place when the police were able to chase mophed crime in the past
And therefore the law is neither here nor there

But the guidelines as I have been trying to explain to you have been changed in some way
And fairly recently

The question remains why ?

Take your time again detraveller and try not to come back with any more nonsense

oh and yes the existing law that you said was in place never existed
because it was something that existed only in your head
There is the existing law which does exist and always did exist and the imaginary law in your head

Don’t confuse one with the other

I long for the day when a bunch of them wade into a recently retired Para who has an axe to grind. Ohhh yes, come the day. Sooner or later one of them's gonna find himself in some serious trouble.

This was the question , why have the police failed to continue to pursue criminals on mopheds ( the law hasn’t changed )
What has been the reason for the change in police policy , if it isn’t the agenda of the leftists and luvvies and possibly others of that ilk ?
I don’t know

you certainly couldn’t blame people with views like ericster for this change in policy

Who do you blame detraveller ? tell us please

heaven knows what he will come back with this time

I DO wonder/hope that maybe, somewhere out there, a really hard s.o.b. is cruising with a really expensive phone, come take me rob me,fishing for moped dirt. Could be a really cool competition between hard guys

Jun 9, 2018 -- 12:08PM, lfc1971 wrote:

oh and yes the existing law that you said was in place never existed because it was something that existed only in your head There is the existing law which does exist and always did exist and the imaginary law in your head Don’t confuse one with the other

You win.

lfc 7 - 0 detraveller

well done detraveller , I am not particularly intelligent
And I don’t like to strain my intelligence too much

That’s good advice to you right there

Sharpshooters required for police work, able to hit moving targets.

Jun 9, 2018 -- 7:34PM, lfc1971 wrote:

well done detraveller , I am not particularly intelligent And I don’t like to strain my intelligence too much That’s good advice to you right there

You'll excuse me having a lol at that.

We always excuse your comments STUDYFORM.

glad you liked that one study

Power corrupts, so in my view the answer is not to give the police 'more powers'. Just use the existing powers as they should be used.

No one respects the police any more, and due to the scrutiny they receive they have become ineffective except in cases that only offend people's feelings.

Sajid Javid: My phone was stolen by moped thieves 

The Home Secretary has revealed he was mugged by moped thieves who stole his mobile phone.

Sajid Javid, who is in charge of the nation’s policing and security, said he was targeted by criminals outside Euston station in north London. 

Seems this happened Months Back  Not a Mention ,The M Mac  Robbery, has made Sajid Come out ,No doubt there will be a new Twitter Handle # me2phone

http://www.itv.com/news/2018-06-17/sajid-javid-my-phone-was-stolen-by-moped-thieves/

How strange this has not made the News , Until Today

Now I maybe being Silly ,But if it happened to me and I was in his position, I may well make it Public so that people are aware
there is a chance of having your Phone snatched in the London Area  ,and to be careful ? 

Or is that Just me ?

Now I maybe being Silly ,But if it happened to me and I was in his position, I may well make it Public so that people are aware there is a chance of having your Phone snatched in the London Area  ,and to be careful ?

Not cynical enough. It is more likely to deflect criticism as figures are published showing under 5 per cent of burglaries and robberies are solved.

Has anyone considered the fact that it might the police themselves, or at least some rogue ones.

They know they are not going to be chased. They know the rules. And convictions/sentences probably count for nowt anyway.

Yes I was thinking the same until my

Daily medication kicked in.

For a closer look at some of the Criminal Thug Moped S**m Criminals,  this nauseating BBC documentary about them might prove useful.  You could barely see a finer example of the devastating and damaging effect of 'Diversity' on London, and the overt links to Africa and cross-border crime.

If ANYONE involved in the reporting, filming and reporting of this grotesque criminality has ANY scintilla of decency, they will ensure that all information accrued during the project about the criminals is passed on to the Met. 

.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p05x9kfp/inside-britains-moped-crime-gangs

Is this the One with the Promising Racing Driver ?

alun - thanks for the link. An incredible documentary.

Yes case - he's pretty good! He said he would need a rich sponsor to get into racing and it just made me think he would steal even more to get that money....

Yes Case, that's the one. The documentary ludicrously indulged his enjoyment of fast driving.

At no point were the criminals properly challenged, or asked to explain to the public why they believe they have such a massive sense of entitlement to the items they steal.

"Has anyone considered the fact that it might the police themselves, or at least some rogue ones.

They know they are not going to be chased. They know the rules. And convictions/sentences probably count for nowt anyway. "


Not quite what I meant but.... it's been reported that "Moped gangs pose as police to trick motorists into pulling over" - Evening Standard / internet.

Just waiting for actual report of rogue police now. LOL

Moped muggers who rob people of their watches, jewellery and mobile phones are funding extravagant summer holidays on “party islands” like Ibiza and Cyprus, the Telegraph can reveal.

...

The latest Metropolitan police crime figures show a seasonal pattern to moped related crimes.

From 2012 to 2017, the late spring and early summer months all see a steady increase in the number of recorded offences committed by a criminals using a moped, scooter or motorcycle.

But, over that same period, every August experiences a marked drop in moped muggings and raids, with July often showing a similar decline.

It is understood that some robbers take August off to fly to Mediterranean party islands where entrance to the top clubs and DJ shows can cost hundreds of pounds.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/06/30/increase-moped-muggings-fueled-gangs-saving-summer-holidays/

Yes lovely holidays and F1 testing