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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/apr/27/why-are-knife-and-gun-offences-on-the-rise-and-who-is-most-at-risk

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By:
Ramruma
When: 27 Apr 18 13:39
As the cynics say:

the left don't care because of the identity of the attackers

the right don't care because of the identity of the victims
By:
Ramruma
When: 27 Apr 18 13:41
As Inspector Morse's enemy said, arguing against Morse's fancy theories ...

murder's about stupid people doing stupid things to each other.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 27 Apr 18 19:09
I think that's pretty good summary of the situation Ramruma.
By:
Tallywagger.
When: 27 Apr 18 19:34
The right do care IMO, but everything they try is shouted down by the left as racist.

So, we are where we are.

Phucked!
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 27 Apr 18 20:02
There's not a lot anybody can do if their parents can't or won't control them.
Jail is no deterrent, and they get such an easy time at school these days that they'll get no guidance from there either.
I agree with Tallywagger, I reckon we're stuck with spiralling knife crime for the foreseeable future.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 27 Apr 18 20:46

Apr 27, 2018 -- 7:34PM, Tallywagger. wrote:


The right do care IMO, but everything they try is shouted down by the left as racist.So, we are where we are.Phucked!


Happens a lot this, does it?
I keep missing this stuff where 'the left' shout stuff.

By:
flushgordon1
When: 27 Apr 18 20:47
It's usually at hope not soap meetings study or in the guardian ,or the BBC, or sky etc,etc,etc
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 27 Apr 18 20:56
The radical leftist London Mayor rose to power by saying he would end stop and search.

This is the problem.

If they wish to end knife crime put army check points at every street entrance in the dodgy areas of London and search everyone who wishes to enter/leave those streets.

Have zero tolerance for any weapons or drugs found - straight to a prison ship off the kent coast if found with either.

No more suspended sentences for drugs or weapons.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 27 Apr 18 21:06
Study still in denial.

antifa are the most vocal and violent groups around, all funded by the left.
By:
detraveller
When: 27 Apr 18 21:09
Do you guys realize that any issue that you conveniently debate as a left vs right issue will never be solved by the politicians for the very same reason? Anything that the left can't do is because of the right and anything the right can't do is because of the left. Something like that will be milked by both till the aliens take over.
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 27 Apr 18 21:23
Well said detraveller. We should get rid of the whole left vs right thing and replace it with right vs wrong - where left is right and right is wrong, obviously.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 27 Apr 18 21:43
I happen to think Fascists are pretty bad.

As bad as Corbyn's hard left anti-Semites?
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 27 Apr 18 21:44
London chose to go down the left hand path.
I'd leave them to get on with it.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 27 Apr 18 21:49
zzzzzz

Err, the government stop and search was stopped because it was claimed to be racist, you wont go there.

What agenda, an elected leader fails, why not ask the question about his failings ?

Daily Mail, newspaper stand, you are just a libtard. bored with your denial.

Not a single person mentioned the BBC, you are on autopilot. which is nice. You didnt need to defend that view.

The rest of your post is just garbage, you are not a crime commissioner
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 27 Apr 18 21:53

Apr 27, 2018 -- 9:43PM, Dr Crippen wrote:


I happen to think Fascists are pretty bad.As bad as Corbyn's hard left anti-Semites?


congratulations Crippen 1st person to get a negative Corbyn mention.

I.S.
Just being objectionable for the sake of it.
Tallywagger mentioned the BBC,he also said the 'left shouted everything down as racist'
You are also on auto-pilot and you are not, not a tw@t.

By:
moisok
When: 27 Apr 18 21:56
it definitely isn't a left wing right wing thing

it is down to the 'progressives'  this includes all shades of politics
ie  those who follow what is deemed politically correct or what is currently trending/trendy

look at the issues they pick up on from me too to black lives matter but incapable of approaching these issues from a balance viewpoint - only balanced in the sense it is with a chip on both soulders to keep them upright

there will be something new on soon to give all you knuckle draggers a damn good thrashing from the 'progessive' moral high ground
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 27 Apr 18 22:05
Did any of you actually read the article to which this thread was started?

It's more like someone shouting "GO!!!"
and then the same old crap appears from the same old purveyors of crap.

Then look for anything actually pointing out that what's being written is crap and round on it as opposition, denial, sympathising, 'leftist'.
What I wrote supported no-one and nothing. It merely pointed out what utter garbage a lot of you are writing.

You don't like it. I can understand that.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 27 Apr 18 22:11
congratulations Crippen 1st person to get a negative Corbyn mention.

Plenty more where that came from STUDY.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 27 Apr 18 22:11
I thought the thread was going pretty well until you came along.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 27 Apr 18 22:14
my posts disappearing again.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 27 Apr 18 22:40
One of you don't like it?
or BF being thick?

Crippen - both of your typically idiotic posts describe something already patently obvious.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 27 Apr 18 22:50
I've posted six times here STUDY, so which were the four you liked?
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 28 Apr 18 00:50
You really do think you're funny, don't you? (just because an idiot troll boosts your pathetic little ego and you're possibly the only feckwit running with him)
It amazes me how you can be so wrong, all the time, about everything.

fwiw, you're right, you posted 6 typically idiotic posts, I was just referring (obviously) to the last 2.
By:
lfc1971
When: 28 Apr 18 07:01
A post was deleted here, quite rightly, one that claimed to be happy for the state to shoot someone if they were found to be carrying a knife


This is the trouble with the dangerous mindset of leftists, they are prepared to allow the state the power to commit almost any crime up to and including murder, this is the mentality that leads to repression and terror
It is particularly bad if it is the working classes who achieve power
By:
detraveller
When: 28 Apr 18 11:32
The left must be so powerful that they can delete posts on betfair forum!
By:
moisok
When: 28 Apr 18 12:21
always makes me laugh how the obvious is avoided almost any mention especially with trident being involved most times (a dead giveaway)

where's black lives matter??

the 'prgressive' defence of what is going on in london is absolutely disgusting propped up by a regime of police and politicos who make lots of gestures and noise but actually do very little

same with TELFORD et al  -  it is VOTES VOTES VOTES every time - must not upset the groups who will take a fence

hope this helps
By:
moisok
When: 28 Apr 18 12:23
'progressive'   

at least we have this baby and a lovely wedding to take our minds off the violent orgy of stabbings and anti semetic violence and threats  in london
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 28 Apr 18 14:04
lfc.
Was it you who reported it?
My incredibly hypothetical view that repeat offenders of knife crime could be executed, the line at the end of a post pointing out some of the ridiculousness written on here. There was nothing which warranted having it removed. It's just a game, isn't it?

Dangerous mindset of 'the left'. CrazyCrazy
Nothing I have said is political - or has any leaning. I'm just pointing out the crap people (ESPECIALLY you) write on here.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 28 Apr 18 14:25
My incredibly hypothetical view that repeat offenders of knife crime could be executed, the line at the end of a post pointing out some of the ridiculousness written on here. There was nothing which warranted having it removed. It's just a game, isn't it?

You got of lightly.
I wrote that demonstrators who smashed police car windows should have been dealt with by the police using firearms.

I got banned for that.

You have to be careful who you upset on here. You might be arguing with a moderator or one of their mates.
By:
moisok
When: 28 Apr 18 14:32
combine - van, tools, likeys, police, fill out form, claim on insurance - no action despite cctv - they are too scared of them

around here the passing of dud notes is rife - just saying -
By:
lfc1971
When: 28 Apr 18 15:01
studyform what are you on about now?

You said that someone caught carrying a knife for the second time should be shot, I,m just saying that I don't think carrying a knife should be a capital offense

and no I didn't report you, ive never reported anyone
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 28 Apr 18 15:31
So because you don't agree, the post was "rightly removed"?

The freedom of speech thing was a thread of a couple of weeks back, where you kept asking for examples.
By:
lfc1971
When: 28 Apr 18 15:34
ps believing in freedom of speech doesn't mean that you have to believe it has to apply
to everyone

certainly not, you can make an exception for some people it depends...
By:
lfc1971
When: 28 Apr 18 15:35
you might be one of those people study considering the amount of nonsense you come out with
By:
lfc1971
When: 28 Apr 18 15:38
free speech is not a right, it has to be earned
By:
lfc1971
When: 28 Apr 18 15:50
both the person saying it and the person hearing it have to earn it
you have to be able to trust both people
otherwise you cannot have free speech
By:
lfc1971
When: 28 Apr 18 15:52
Of course in Britain today increasingly we cant trust other people
By:
lfc1971
When: 28 Apr 18 15:54
you can only believe in free speech when people believe in the same basic things
such as free speech for example
By:
lfc1971
When: 28 Apr 18 15:57
and not thinking that someone caught carrying a knife should be shot
those sort of things
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