irish border,uk finally realises

the EU are running out of time, that's good

Not sure that's true. The following chart shows the incidence of the search term "hard border" in Google from 2014 to date

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=2014-03-20%202018-04-20&geo=GB&q=%22hard%20border%22

You will see that there were almost no searches (when compared to Dec '17) prior to the referendum. If this "hard border" scenario was so widely discussed, why is this the case. I don't remember it being talked about by anyone.

theres nothing to talk about, the Irish and the EU are going to have to grow up

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what even an idiot such as myself said at the time,if the uk has signed up to a back stop agreement which satisfies the EU,why would they even consider agreeing to something that suits the eu government better,the dullard mrs may will be sending a patsy down the road to bring the can back



Incorrect the EU will reject any border proposals that the UK put forward that is quite clear. EU has no interest in finding a solution to the border to allow UK to sit outside EU Single Market and Customs Union. 

The EU agreed to the following wording put into the agreement after DUP kicked up a fuss in December, which can only be solved with two options given the EU's refusal to accept any proposals on border whatsoever.

"In the absence of agreed solutions, the United Kingdom will ensure that no new regulatory barriers develop between Northern Ireland and the rest of the United Kingdom, unless, consistent with the 1998 Agreement, the Northern Ireland Executive and Assembly agree that distinct arrangements are appropriate for Northern Ireland. In all circumstances, the United Kingdom will continue to ensure the same unfettered access for Northern Ireland’s businesses to the whole of the United Kingdom internal market."

So as the EU do not agree the proposed solutions from the UK to keep the Irish land border open then the only 2 options will be:
1. the whole of the UK remains in CU/SM (Obviously what the EU wants to happen and is trying to force, but May already ruled this out)
2. a hard Brexit because to have no regulatory barriers between Britain and NI means that both need to be in CU/SM or both outside. There can be no case where NI remains in CU/SM and Britain does not for NI to have unfettered access to the UK market as stated in the EU agreement.

Case of who blinks first. Depends how much the EU need the £40 billion May said she was willing to pay.

I came home through Holyhead yesterday, they ask me to put my hand luggage into the Xray machine, but took my main suitcase on board the ship without it going into the Xray machine, to say i was surprised is a understatement....

Should simply have the same sort of border that was there before the eu was hatched.

LOL who,ll blink 1st,its a toughie but maybe the lady who,s moved red line after line,
as for the 40 billion if may can live with everything else she,ll happily suck up some sort of customs union to complete a deal rather than walk away and claim it as some sort of great victory because people doubted she,d get a deal,hence the reason the likes of davis,gove,boris etc are ready to pull the plug on her, rather than go down with the ship