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InsiderTrader
17 Apr 18 12:02
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The government official analysis shows this is the case.

Thanks Tony Blair and those who followed you for making the Buy to Let parasites rich at the expense of young people. Blair himself got rich on BTL property.

https://www.landlordtoday.co.uk/breaking-news/2017/5/ex-pm-tony-blair-expands-buy-to-let-portfolio

The Tories need to get the numbers down as they promised.

The people voted to take back control and sort this mess out.

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By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 17 Apr 18 12:44
Yet it was the older generation who voted for BREXIT and the younger generation who voted to remain
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 17 Apr 18 12:50
How do you know that CLYDEBANK?
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 17 Apr 18 12:53
So you're saying that 52% were older voters while 48% were younger voters?

I'd say that's nonsense.
By:
Callisto-moon
When: 17 Apr 18 13:04
ive not met a retired person who has suggested they voted to stay.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 17 Apr 18 13:08
71% of 18-24 year olds voted to REMAIN
36% of 65 and over voted to REMAIN

68% of people with Degrees voted to REMAIN
30% of people with GCSE or lower voted to REMAIN
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 17 Apr 18 13:09
I've met two.  My mum and dad Callisto
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 17 Apr 18 13:14
65% of Labour supporters voted to REMAIN which is intereting
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 17 Apr 18 13:15
when you consider 68% of people with degrees voted to REMAIN
By:
Callisto-moon
When: 17 Apr 18 13:18
well the votes are in, we better get on with it.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 17 Apr 18 13:20
That simply shows a bias towards leaving in the numbers of older people who to voted.
And a bias towards remaining in the number of younger people who voted. 

Which is not what you wrote.

68% of people with Degrees voted to REMAIN

So 32% of people with degrees voted to leave?
By:
Callisto-moon
When: 17 Apr 18 13:22
Mr Blair would swap his whole portfolio for one more day in number 10.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 17 Apr 18 13:23
Jesus wept
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 17 Apr 18 13:25
when you consider 68% of people with degrees voted to REMAIN

What does that prove, that cheap imported labour doesn't affect people with I'm alright Jack degrees so much as those without degrees?
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 17 Apr 18 13:26
Jesus wept

It's the UK working classes who are weeping CLYDEBANK.
By:
moisok
When: 17 Apr 18 13:28
what has degrees got to do with the pressure an extra 8 million has put on the infrastucture and housing in particular? 

Typical deflection.
By:
moisok
When: 17 Apr 18 13:28
infrastructure !!
By:
terry mccann
When: 17 Apr 18 13:30
War Criminal Mr.Blair to give him his full title
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 17 Apr 18 13:31
Wel you could argue that, but then you look at Ebbw Vale.  An area with huge EU handouts that has transformed the area (and I imagine very low immigration) and it had the biggest vote leave percentage in the whole of Wales and possibly the UK.  So I'd say not.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 17 Apr 18 13:32
How many people with a large mortgage would vote for a party that would see their house become substantially less valuable, possibly pushing them into negative equity and - as proved last time round - followed by the real possibility of a serious recession?


Not arguing for or against the opening argument but if you take the situation as it is today a party that said to voters "we're going to make your main asset lose 20% of value" is going to struggle to win people over.
By:
lfc1971
When: 17 Apr 18 13:57
the vast majority of old people don't have degrees,(they quite rightly didn't need them and they were more intelligent than todays generation) and the majority voted leave

that's why they voted leave and don't have degrees, they are too old
nothing to do with intelligence simply life in Britain as it is and was

so stop talking nonsense, there is no point quoting numbers if you don't understand numbers
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 17 Apr 18 13:57
How could any party make house prices lose 20% of their value PP?
By:
lfc1971
When: 17 Apr 18 14:02
also house price increases have surprisingly little to do with immigration
By:
lfc1971
When: 17 Apr 18 14:06
mass immigration is as likely as anything to lead to falls in house prices, and in the long term it is more than likely and almost certain
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 17 Apr 18 14:07
lfc half the 18-24 aren't old enough to have degrees.

I mentioned education levels not intelligence fwiw.  I'm well aware that far more people do degrees now than used to. 

My parents are either side of 80 and they both have degrees and they voted to stay.
By:
lfc1971
When: 17 Apr 18 14:17
sorry Clydebank I think you will find the age group not old enough are 18-21
now that leaves the rest of the young people, 21-35? whatever and that generation far more have degrees ,ok many of dubious worth

then you have the older generation and perhaps 5% of that generation have degrees
Why? because only 5% went to university
you see if 50% of young people go to university today they will come out with some sort of degree, even a bad one

and it was the same in the past. although only 5% instesd of 50%
Now I,m sorry but that skews the figures however you look at it
By:
lfc1971
When: 17 Apr 18 14:20
especially so if it is as you claim the older generation that voted brexit
By:
lfc1971
When: 17 Apr 18 14:22
The older generation voted brexit, the older generation don't have degrees,
yes, only 5% went to university, that's why
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 17 Apr 18 14:23
Dr Crippen
17 Apr 18 13:57
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How could any party make house prices lose 20% of their value PP?

^

1. End QE and install a new governor of the B of E who is against emergency interest rates.
2. Level the playing field for tax to remove BTL subsidy.
3. Give a parcel of government land to everyone with planning permission to build.
4. Scrap housing benefit.
5. Put treble council tax on second plus homes.
6. Ban new foreign ownership.
7. Cut unskilled immigration to virtually zero.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 17 Apr 18 14:24
The figures I quoted were 18-24.  So that is approximately half of that age group.  I've no figures for 18-35.  Nevertheless I'm well aware there will be some correlation between age and degree level of education.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 17 Apr 18 14:24
Lol PP, how ridiculous.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 17 Apr 18 14:27
Far easier just to let the Traveller Community move in next door.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 17 Apr 18 14:29
We have to verify the figures and where they come from before we start drawing any assumptions.

So much of this stuff is phoney that it's a waste of time trying to understand it.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 17 Apr 18 14:29
?
By:
lfc1971
When: 17 Apr 18 14:30
you compared those with degrees and how they voted
and those with GCSE or lower qualifications and how they voted

that as I have said is dependent on the history of Britain, it is inevitable and meaningless unless you factor in that the vast majority of older people left school at 16 or even 14
By:
saddo
When: 17 Apr 18 14:31
Millions now told they can't afford to buy a house, so are forced to buy one for someone else by paying extortionate rents.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 17 Apr 18 14:36
Surely they didn't ask everyone in the country who voted in the referendum?
Because no one asked me how I voted.

So where did the figures come from?
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 17 Apr 18 14:36
Housing is a huge problem in this country, particularly in the south.  Decades of under investment, higher divorce rates and an increase in population through life expectancy and immigration.
By:
lfc1971
When: 17 Apr 18 14:37
immigration pushes down wages, how does immigration lead to higher house prices?
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 17 Apr 18 14:38
Dr C. It's all based on sample sizes and mathematical confidence levels.
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