USA, France & The UK Currently Precision Bombing Syria

I did not vote for this.

I'm very disappointed in May do here best to f uck Brexit but so quick against Russia. wants the betting she will use this to say something along the lines of "we must stay in Europe,we must stay firm together"?

International law does not really exist 1st time poster. Because there is no one that can enforce it(don't say UN). Any law created today will be to the liking of US and they will be the ones to enforce it. This'll change soon with China taking over but even then the law will be to the liking of the powerful.

In today's world, the only thing that will save you is nuclear weapons. Countries that have them have committed crimes worse than Syria and are still going.

Im waiting for that line too TM.

Apr 14, 2018 -- 10:21AM, detraveller wrote:

Na I don't think people will be able to see through these lies. They killed Bin Laden and dumped him into the sea and people bought that. One of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard.I can already tell you what will happen. There'll be some stabbing or car ramming and people will be back to cursing a 1400 year old book and how the muslims want to kill us all. These wars are just business.

It's highly unlikely that too many pro-Daesh fans will take exception to what will be seen as an assault against Assad.

The millions and millions of £s this has cost, is money we haven't got for Health, Police, Education etc... Local authorities are capped, there is no money.

Arms and war, loads of innocent people killed and maimed - imagine being an ordinary Syrian civilian. For what?
So some arms traders make money, so there might be a boost in the polls and to suck up to Trump.

They wouldn't dream of simply bombing Assad's palace. That might set off a trend of leaders being got/bombed to stop a war.
I reckon it's an unwritten agreement between all national leaders not to actually kill each other, but to decimate their lands and kill their citizens is OK.

Syrians on the news joking that ISIS's homemade bombs do more damage than Trumps Tomahawks.

I seriously doubt that anyone killed or injured by one of "Trumps Tomahawks" would agree.
The news - particularly at times like this - is extremely selective.

Not just the cost of the weapons (and profits for the companies that provide them) but also all the multi-billon dollar contracts when the 'rebuilding' finally happens in the end.

How do you suppose those killed could disagree STUDY. Through a spiritualist?

Yes and unlike yourself STUDY, I'm not very good at calling other posters names either.

fkn idiots - looks like some sort of stitch up with the russians too.  They dare not go near the russians ha ha.

saudi backed coalition against assad

they doing anything about the yemen? - I bet not - thousands killed there but not a word

wonderful distraction politics

meanwhile sky news spinning as fast as it can go - even big pretty maps and showing how much wonderful weapons we have been using

they get so excited  - the tv news are really dangerous - warmongers - there appears to be almost no critique of this action

at least it shows May as being the strongman of europe  (yuk!!)

ps
what is the difference between gassing some people and blowing their limbs off with bombs??

Nothing.

Shameful for us to be involved.

I still have not seen any proof that chemical weapon were used or have i missed the proof ?

You can’t handle the proof
Nobody can it’s secret, just got to take their word for it and fall in line.

apparently May dragging in the salisbury incident and using it as an excuse to include as retaliation for said attack

she is a dangerous warmonger - the lap dog of usa - soon as it barks we jump -

they doing anything about the yemen ?  ah no  - it is saudi led as is the war against syria 

but keep it quiet

lots of lovely big pictures of bombs and guns on sky news  - lovely - so exciting - go on boys and girls  - just whip up the fervour!!!  It's war war war.  It will be over by christmas.

ps  distraction politics at its worse.

Completely agree moisok

Apr 14, 2018 -- 11:57AM, Dr Crippen wrote:

Yes and unlike yourself STUDY, I'm not very good at calling other posters names either.

I've no doubt it's part of a very long list of things you're not very good at, so don't beat yourself up about it...



much.

please rermember who owns tv stations and the press---the elite, so you will only hear or see what they want you to hear and see, don't forget chaps.

the televisual news experience seems incapable of doing a proper critique of ANY situation - no depth to it at all.  Who are all the actors in this and WHY.   It is all bombs and lovely pictures - for the consumption of the masses.  2 minutes of HATE - 1984 is with us.  Speak out against it and you are either Mad or worse - look at the sneering smug presentation by Bunter on sky news when the  ex british ambassador to syria speaks sense. 

Our action is an illegal war is it not?

Evidence isn't needed anymore either,what a DEEP STATE we are in

did tony blair have evidence,,

So Facilities were bombed last year ,we didn't do much of a Job then ?

ARSEADD will Just bomb fck out of the Rebel areas  with conventional weapons with  Russias help ,Im not too sure what difference there is to being blown to pieces or gassed ,what has last nights attack acheived ?

What was it meant to Achieve .. ??

I think all of you on here who criticise our government and that of the Americans should be locked up with no rights. Maybe have electrodes attached to your nuts, finger nails pulled out and then summarily executed............oh hand on that dosen't happen here but it certainly does in the regime's some of you prefer to support. I can imagine how long you'd last if you chose to criticise Putin or Assad. As for Corbyn I'd like to see him shot yards away from the houses of parliament for his views and opposition to the government. Whoops hang that also dosen't happen here unlike Russia. A sense of reality I think is needed gentleman

God what a bloke ^ Zionist talk.

Have a lay down mate. Get back to BBC1 fella all of the facts are awaiting you. Don't worry they always tell the truth.

Have a lay down mate. Get back to BBC1 fella all of the facts are awaiting you. Don't worry they always tell the truth.

Oh just like RT then

The media trashes Trump 24/7. They only like him when he does something 'presidential' that brings all sides together like bomb a third world country. How sick is that?

Nearly as sick as downing a civilian airliner or annexing a country. Yeah Trumps a bad guy

The media aren't loving him, they are being careful about saying bad things about an ally in times of war.

As with ALL conflict, nothing will be broadcast which reduces national morale.

Its good to give the Russians and Putin a little shot across the bows if they don't know how to behave

Reminder UFC: USA is still at war Afghanistan, Yemen, Somalia, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Mali, Nigeria and Niger -- you know, killing people.

terrific money making for the elite of course

and exactly where did that get us?

wtf are we doing there

are we doing anything about the saudi led yemen conflict??

No.  I thought not. And guess who is the major stirrer around syria??

can't upset the saudis!!

That's Russia and Iran causing trouble in all these countries.
Its America trying to bring peace and stability and prosperity and democracy, that's good

phew!!  You have put my mind at rest Lfc.

moisok what where you worried about exactly, this is how it works
Russia should not be using chemical weapons

Russia has no right to be in Syrian or any other country in the world
they should return to their own sh1tehole

Now what is difficult to understand about that?

That was a joke wasn't it @ 15.25 IFC?

Not really terry, if Russia wants to get involved in a country that it does have responsibility for, and which it does havev responsibility for setting up then it can turn its attention to N.Korea

when it solves the problem of that barbaric country it can come back and see us sometime

lfc has helped put me straight - I am thankful.  I am glad to know which one was evil.  At least I know the usa is innocent, doesn't start wars or kill people (without good reason)

Until then it should fc8k off

yes I think lfc was being ironic  or maybe not

you see its like this Moisok, we have N Korea and we have S Korea
Russia is responsible for the north, and America the south
try and get that into your head

Well they got rid if Isis ,semms like the yanks want them back-deep joy

Anyone who thinks that America or any other western country does not want to get rid of isis is deluded

What America` and the west have told Russia is to stop using chemical weapons, that's easy to do

now if they don't listen to that good advice I don't blame the west, I blame Russia and assad

Oh sorry I am being stupid again.  Which part of syria has south korea in it.  I am so glad the usa is involved protecting the south korean part of the middle east.

I am rather poor on geography and many other political aspects.

I am also so glad that bombing syria is not seen as supporting the 5 islamic terrorist groups fighting assad's lot.

I agree IFC,anyone who supports Isis in anyway would have to be evil

moisok I told you, Russia has no right to be in Syria or any other country in the world
apart from perhaps n korea, they created that hellhole

and all those weapons that daesh had, didn't come from the saudis and usa via these other groups the US supports. 

That is pure anti US propaganda.  The US would NEVER make that mistake.  ie funding islamist groups

This is a most satisfactory fred.   I have been taught a lesson in politics and geography.  I am rather lucky.

its like this, America tries to support groups that are likely to bring democracy to a country, that is their aim in Syria, they have tried countless times to find suitable ways to bring together people from that country who are capable of understand basic freedoms and human rights..its very difficult
But that is Americas aim
And when they succeed they bring abou some of the most beautiful countries in the world such as S Korea, and Japan and W.Germany etc
That is the aim, they need the help of every person within those countries and elsewhere

the kurds have been abandoned by the US as turkey invades syria and kills them but then turkey got plenty of cheap oil from daesh and must be rather upset with the kurds who helped eliminate daesh 
- One of the best anti daesh groups in Iraq and syria. In fact they were the ONLY force that held daesh at one time in Iraq, while the Iraqi army ran away or joined daesh.

Russia bombed the fk out of daesh but are they evil??

Was the Russia state evil during WW2 when they fought Nazi Germany?
yes, they were they were responsible for the murder and enslavement of millions of people
Russia has been a terrorist state for at least 100 years

Reminder UFC: USA is still at war Afghanistan, Yemen, Somalia, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Mali, Nigeria and Niger -- you know, killing people.


Your probably right Afc888 after all most of these countries do a pretty good job of killing themselves. I note Syria is one of the countries you list. 500,000 deaths have been attributed to the Assad regime but I suppose that little ditty dosen't fit your agenda While all military action is a terrible thing it must be even worse when it's your own country is attacking you.

now I am sorry it is time to stop worrying about the kurds, we don't know what sort of barbaric state they might want
We have to concentrate on what is happening now and try and bring in democratic and free countries
there is no point simply setting up new totalitarian regimes

what has ww2 etc got to do with bombing syria

I am sure you will be able to tell me and correct me.  Were you there?

Your world wide knowledge is remarkable.  You must have travelled extensively in the far east, south east, middle east and I would guess THE USA.

The Kurds as I predicted many many months ago have been severely let down by the West. However can you imagine the Lilly livered lefties on here if we advocated attacking another supposedly NATO country

We differ there lfc i think the Kurds are ok and having done a lot of the dirty work should at least be afforded our protection.

lfc
I know I am thick but when we propped up dictators in the middle east how did that work out?
Then when we removed them, how did that work out?

anything to do with twin towers UFC America"s "Pearl Harbour"?

moisok try and keep up, you asked were Russia evil for bombing daesh
the point is everyone wants that, but just as in WW2 when Russia bombed and fought Nazi Germany, Russia were evil then and they went on to murder and enslave millions, and they are evil now..
is that comparison easy enough to understand?

who do they murder or enslave now?

You know an awful lot lfc.  How do you know all this stuff.  Is it first hand experience of these countries?  I am rather ignorant of many things

thankyou

At least we never sided with the evil ones   errr cough cough.  I have heard a nasty pro russian propagandist say we invaded the USSR along with several other western countries and our royal navy bombarded USSR cities.  I simply cannot believe that.
Russian propaganda I guess.

now spot trying to play the fool moisok, I know you aren't stupid
why don't you visit S Korea, and then N Korea

stop it terry  -  I am learning lots of stuff here

funnily enough the yanks were accused of using chemical weapons in that war IFC

unlike you lfc who is rich,(you must be coz you obviously have the money to have visited them all coz you know so much about them)   I AIN'T GOT THE CASH unfortunately.

O IFC DOESNT LIKE POOR PEOPLE

I live on the earth like everyone else, that is my viewpoint

which  of these countries have you been to lfc  (you mention in the middle east)
and those in the far east - you have had a much travelled and knowledge building life

I have been to Rouen TWICE!!!!

I have worked in Saudi, I have to tell you it is not the place for me
And I have visited Israel

I wouldn't go near any Islamic country now if you paid me

They don't mean harm  and nor do the americans

however their politicians DO and you have been sucked into the USA POLITICAL war agenda   - woof woof!!

Brilliant deflection politics from the US and poodle tactics from MAY (now the strongman of europe)

But if you have shares in arms manufacturers then it is a good time.

We simply must keep this going - the politicians, military and manufacturers have it in their interest - trust me.

who do they murder or enslave now?


The men, women and children on a civilian flight for a starter terry

"In March 2016, Syria Deeply reported: "...the leader of Jaish al-Islam, or “Army of Islam” was killed in December last year in a government air strike. His death, however, did nothing to stop the group’s totalitarian rule in Eastern Ghouta, where residents say torture and imprisonment without trial occur routinely in the name of “liberation” and Sharia law."

Bombing helping to bring democracy to syria - you know what type that would be if the 5 islamist groups got their way

why do the likes of sky scoff,snear at people who want more evidence,doubt the evidence and basically say because may and boris say its true ,its true have these people never heard of Iraq,lybia,hillsbrough,saville,guildford bombings,rotheram,miners strike, Stephen Lawrence , cover up after cover up,lies after lies, till anyones convinced by the evidence their entitled to believe their been lied to ,history proves in lots of cases they are,anyone who doesn't doubt or ask questions is either a fool or complicit in spreading the lies, imo

ps,when I was a kid I took anything some in a uniform including the  lollipop lady said as the gospel truth,now I question anyone and everyone

laughable interview on sky when the former head of the british army was been interviewed and went of script regards strikes and was cut off straight away

I always laughed when a reporter told the latest story of Aleppo, close to the action  - remember the 750,000 about to be killed the reporter was in Beirut or turkey etc etc!!! The number gradually went down as the terrorists were defeated.

Often the same with ghouta and the frightening picture of 400,000 this time  - it never happened in aleppo - although the terrorists tend to hide behind or hold civilians as cover.

Apr 15, 2018 -- 10:40AM, 1st time poster wrote:

laughable interview on sky when the former head of the british army was been interviewed and went of script regards strikes and was cut off straight away

I saw that - truly awful.

Read a few posts but not all so apologises if already mentioned.
Most of Europes political leaders are behind these strikes saying they were justified.
However some leaders world wide have condemned them.
Here is the list:
Putin
Assad
Rouhani
Morales
Corbyn
Sturgeon

I'm sure most would've been behind them if they'd allowed the inspectors to do their job and find out for sure not the gung-ho attack to ensure the truth can't be found.

How can the truth not be found Denzil?
The strikes were against specific targets and not Douma where the inspectors are currently.

Are they currently inspecting? I didn't know that if they are.Hopefully they can find out.

Is there any point in doing an inspection now?

I think UK govt is getting in a tangle here. Spy poisoning and now this. Two very fishy moves. When is Harry getting married? That should keep the public busy for a few weeks

The timing of everything stinks,Cup final day for LUCKY HARRY

as stated before its a ridiculous argument upholding a 100 year convention over chemical weapons,chemical attack 100,s survive illegal,been vapourised by modern missiles where everyone targeted is killed, is legal and in Syria even encouraged by the likes of the uk,russia,america ,etc

Just seems odd to me that they would blow up the crime scene a day before people were going in to investigate, isn't that the actions possible of people who are scared of what might be discovered? The Tories have told us different so I'm very sorry to even think of such a thing

Well done terry, trust your government you know it makes sense

Just seems odd to me that they would blow up the crime scene a day before people were going in to investigate

Sorry Terry but you've got that wrong. The inspection was of the area attacked with the chemical weapons and not the 3 factories that were bombed.

The inspection still hasn't happened maybe both sides didn't want it

Blocked again