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DenzilPenberthy
06 Apr 18 02:40
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https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/adam-peaty-swimming-chiefs-can-do-more-to-catch-drug-cheats-a3805611.html

Brings up micro dosing which has been the in thing for a while now and as has even been proven by a BBC journalist who's an amateur cyclist how anyone can do this imagine how easy it is with the best sports doctors in the world.

Whilst I'm glad Peaty has addressed this publicly the lad is maybe being a bit naive here given his achievements in the sport he himself is one of the biggest ???'s in sport for me given that he professes to be clean yet can destroy dopers by huge margins.

He's the world 100m Breaststroke  Long Course World Record holder 57.13
Not only that in July 2017 he had the 10 fastest swims of all time
https://swimswam.com/peatys-57-75-gives-10-fastest-swims-ever-meet-record-100-br/

All of this clean as a whistle notwithstanding TUE's of course which I imagine he's on a few.

He's just swam hard by the way in his heat and did 59.14 Shocked

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By:
lovegod
When: 06 Apr 18 08:07
Maybe another asthma sufferer?
By:
A_T
When: 06 Apr 18 11:05
always a good idea to express a hard line on doping can come in as a useful defence later. "I can't believe he'd dope he's always been so strongly against it..."
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 06 Apr 18 12:30
I haven't got any proof of Peaty's TUE's but if he aint on any (or any gear) it would appear Peaty is some kind of human hybrid cyborg given his times.
By:
asparagus
When: 06 Apr 18 15:37
A bit ridiculous to be condemning someone just because they are very good. Nothing whatsoever to suggest Peaty is on drugs.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 06 Apr 18 15:43
Drug abuse in sport and a governing body who covers it up.  It's boxing.  Possibly where cycling was 10-15 years ago.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 06 Apr 18 15:47
Take the heavyweights.  Ortiz just fought for the World Title and signed to Matchroom.  Two failed drugs tests.  Povetkin, only defeat to Klitchsko.  Mandatory challnger for one of AJ's belts.  Two failed drugs tests.  Alvarez rated pound for pound the best fighter in boxing.  Two failed drugs tests.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 06 Apr 18 16:25
asparagus
06 Apr 18 15:37
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A bit ridiculous to be condemning someone just because they are very good. Nothing whatsoever to suggest Peaty is on drugs.

Not as ridiculous as believing elite athletes aren't on anything when it's been impossible for anybody to even compete clean at elite level for decades.
Why do you think UK sport is abusing the TUE system
The answer is it's more accepted than the use of PED's
Even if you believe the drug testing works (which it doesn't) drugs like 'the clear' have been out for years which render testing irrelevant for Testosterone drugs.
If they wanted to catch anybody they would start with Carbon Isotope Ratio testing which would ping anybody within 6 months to a year of usage some even longer.
They would also have a zero tolerance policy not the current how much will your federation pay to make the positive disappear system they have now.
By:
asparagus
When: 06 Apr 18 17:13
Denzil, you are talking nonsense. Of course plenty of elite athletes are/have been on drugs but to suggest 'it's been impossible for anybody to even compete clean at elite level for decades' is ludicrous. I certainly know personally elite athletes who have never done so. Your post is very unsavoury.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 06 Apr 18 17:22
Name 5
By:
A_T
When: 06 Apr 18 17:25
I certainly know personally elite athletes who have never done so

would they tell you if they had?

Peaty seems convinced there's a lot of doping going undetected but not by himself apparently. How does he know?
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DenzilPenberthy
When: 06 Apr 18 17:27
When I say elite I mean elite people winning golds at olympics smashing records etc I don't mean middle of the road also rans,people who know more about this than me struggle name names where there is no doubt.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 06 Apr 18 17:29
If athletics never had PED's they'd still be struggling to break 10 seconds for the 100m.
By:
GoBallistic
When: 06 Apr 18 17:49
Remember when swimmers used to look like swimmers rather than hgh-fuelled bodybuilders ?  Peaty must weigh about 50 lbs more than David Wilkie
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 06 Apr 18 19:24
Everyone forgets how catabolic all of these sports are yet we look at people now as 'normal' who are beyond their genetic potential if all they did was bodybuild.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 07 Apr 18 15:11
Peaty wins gold in a Commonwealth record 58.84.
By:
GAZO
When: 07 Apr 18 22:21
the man from atlantis got silver
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 07 Apr 18 22:28
Laugh
By:
Crisp77
When: 09 Apr 18 10:57
With the number of events, the Swimming and cycling medals have a huge effect on the overall medals table.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 09 Apr 18 14:20
Coincidently Wink those events are dominated by those on the best asthma meds
By:
saddo
When: 09 Apr 18 14:28
It's a credit to them asthmatics going into such extremely demanding sports.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 09 Apr 18 14:33
That it is saddo can you remember the interview with Laura Trott's dad and sister after one of her golds at the olympics trackside.
They were remarking how amazing it is that Laura has done so well because when they used to go oj bike rides she was the one who was always lagging behind and struggling up the hills,that's the sort of gear our lot are on legally.
By:
bix
When: 10 Apr 18 17:47
Which UK sport has as many drug violations as all other sports put together. ie one sport is responsible for almost half the positive tests. Now you would think that with figures as grim as that everyone would know instead of the finger always being pointed at athletics and cycling but somehow it's kept under the radar despite it staring you in the face each time you see this well regarded sport on TV.
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DenzilPenberthy
When: 10 Apr 18 18:03
Rugby especially League would be the most obvious in this country and you're right you have to actually look for them before you find out.
What's more disturbing is that they are taking so many drugs they are actually failing tests in the first placeShocked
Given what we now know about doping in elite sport for decades successful people have gone through their careers without failing ever federation cover ups and bungs aside.
I always refer everyone to Lance Armstrong and Marion Jones when they judge athletes on the strength of passing and failing tests to determine whether or not they are clean.
Physiology is a much more reliable indicator especially in female athletes.
By:
bix
When: 11 Apr 18 12:33
61 persons currently serving suspensions in the UK for drug violations 4 are from athletics, 7 cyclists and 29 from rugby ( 12 rugby league and 17 rugby union). All there on the UKAD website.
By:
lybertyne
When: 11 Apr 18 13:40
I assume all top-end sportsters are taking something or other.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 11 Apr 18 14:24
Indeed it's impossible to compete otherwise
By:
Injera
When: 11 Apr 18 20:05
Heard only yesterday that a certain 6 Nations team is heavily using..

It's only anecdotal but I trust the source. No way can these guys be built like that just on gym work and protein.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 11 Apr 18 21:13
Exactly the endurance side of the training is so catabolic and for recovery well that's something else again.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 11 Apr 18 21:25
Because of the everyday use of ped's and extremely potent supplements the 'body norms' have been warped so people don't know how we should naturally look especially as we age (the charlatans on YouTube etc selling fitness products to the clueless are a big factor too).
You don't have to look too far to find examples but I've found boxers and athletes the easiest examples to gauge as you can obviously see more flesh.
The clearest examples are those in their 30's who gain muscle/power and lose fat despite having biologically less and less testosterone which is a physical impossiblity for a natty.
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