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brexiteers wont stand for people coming in from Europe during ytransition getting same rights

no one agrees over Ireland

ruth Davidson wont sign up over fisheries deal

so this legal deal aint worth a dime,why do they keep signing upto things they don't agree on

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By:
donny osmond
When: 19 Mar 18 15:33
nothing is agreed until everything is agreed, but you have to start somewhere, or else not bother

lets hope they can agree something decent
By:
1st time poster
When: 19 Mar 18 15:45
if nothing is agreed till everything is agreed what is the point in putting things into legal documents, a week ago the eu offered something which according to treason may no uk PM COULD SIGN UP TO, now its in a legal document,

just dont see the point in I, just agreeing things so they can hold press conferences to give the illusion of progress when there is none
By:
donny osmond
When: 19 Mar 18 15:55
because to get to the whole you start chalking down what is agreed

it may well fall apart if something is not agreed, but if most is agreed and is good for
both sides it may just push a little effort to agree final details

and also shows willing from both sides
By:
Mick Sturbs
When: 19 Mar 18 17:00
In theory thousands of East Europeans could decide to come here during this transition and they will have the right to remain
By:
moisok
When: 19 Mar 18 17:03
SOLD  ho ho
By:
1st time poster
When: 19 Mar 18 17:12
IDS basically just said unless theres small print saying none of the above applies ,no brexiteers will be signing up to this
By:
trilby22
When: 19 Mar 18 18:43
https://www.westmonster.com/ruth-davidson-i-wont-support-a-deal-that-sells-out-fisheries/
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By:
akabula
When: 19 Mar 18 19:00
1st time poster
if nothing is agreed till everything is agreed what is the point in putting things into legal documents, a week ago the eu offered something which according to treason may no uk PM COULD SIGN UP TO, now its in a legal document,


No it's not. All that has been agreed is that we will discuss the original document. Will be no U-turn on NI.
By:
donny osmond
When: 19 Mar 18 19:02
yes aka

theres lots in the document that is not agreed

the bits in green are agreed, those in white are not agreed
By:
1st time poster
When: 19 Mar 18 19:10
but if those in white arnt agreed the ones in green arnt agreed so wtf point, if they cant and wont agree over Ireland the rests a complete waste of time,
on tv this afternoon both remoaners and brexiteers say they wouldn't sign up to the things already in green,never mind things yet to be agreed
By:
donny osmond
When: 19 Mar 18 19:19
because the ones in white are to be discussed and text will be changed if agreed



its so folk can get the gist of what is and what is not agreed



i am told there are yellow sections too, which mean it is close to agreement
By:
akabula
When: 19 Mar 18 19:20
27 other member countries of the EU, The Tories split, Labour split and then the 3 devolved parliaments/assemblies.
Be a miracle getting an agreement. Laugh
By:
donny osmond
When: 19 Mar 18 19:21
there will be an agreement



getting it approved in 28 parliaments might be difficult
By:
1st time poster
When: 19 Mar 18 19:24
we no how it works but you can sign up to 999 if you no your not signing upto to the 1000th,and it makes the other 999 void,you don't really believe davis agrees with migration deal,fisheries deal already knocked back by brexiteers
By:
donny osmond
When: 19 Mar 18 19:28
its only two years, what do they expect?

we retain benefits and give others none
By:
1st time poster
When: 19 Mar 18 19:32
davis is the best English spinner since derek underwood,hails it as a great success that we can ratify trade deals during transition but forgets to tell us as long as the eu agrees with them, not taking back control and a,ll that
By:
akabula
When: 19 Mar 18 19:33
There are other stumbling blocks.
Not being able to agree trade deals during the transition period without the consent of the EU is one with being subject to new EU regulations/laws without any input during the same process is another.
I cannot see this being acceptable. Obviously a time will come and we'll each have our ideas based on the discussions and it'll be you accept this and we'll accept that etc etc.
By:
Owmybrainhurtz
When: 20 Mar 18 21:42
If you've been in jail for 40 years,and are then told you can go free, do you leave, or are you still in jail two years later negotiating with the prison officers the terms of your freedom and demanding that you have a transition period before you agree to leave?

And if prison officer Tony Blair comes along (as he did a few weeks ago) and says, "If we make the conditions of your imprisonment a little better, will you agree to stay in prison?", do you stay or do you say, "No thanks, I'm leaving!"?

The UK should have left immediately, then we could have negotiated from a position of freedom. Instead, we're still in jail negotiating with our evil captors, while they continue to demand that we pay bigger fines before we can leave!
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