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moisok
30 Jan 18 14:53
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say that and you are out of a job - terrifying thought control going on in the uk now
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Report moisok January 31, 2018 6:36 PM GMT
progressives = immigration = globalist

strange bedfellows - progressives and globalists
Report TheBaron January 31, 2018 7:03 PM GMT
Don't worry chaps you'll be safe in your bunkers many miles from that terrible place.
Report moisok January 31, 2018 7:16 PM GMT
I fkn won't
Report Johnny_Mustang January 31, 2018 7:25 PM GMT
Aside from London being the greatest city in the world, how about showing some respect and gratitude? A report from the Centre for Economics and Business Research showed that one pound in every five earned by Londoners is used to fund the rest of the country. So shut it you mugs.
Report saddo January 31, 2018 7:54 PM GMT
and they get £28 a head towards transport compared to £1 in Yorks I think.
Report Gin January 31, 2018 8:11 PM GMT
Original post with link has disappeared!
Report saddo January 31, 2018 8:16 PM GMT
Imagine being so incensed Laugh, poor bugger.
Report moisok January 31, 2018 8:54 PM GMT
It's not 'colourful' enough for some  - fences being scattered everywhere
Report moisok January 31, 2018 9:07 PM GMT
they are now  ha ha
Report akabula January 31, 2018 9:47 PM GMT
Brilliant, enjoyed that Kenny.
Was a great time to be a teenager.
Report alun2005 January 31, 2018 11:31 PM GMT
Just had another look at that riveting film of London in the Summer of 1967.

Wonderful to see so many beautiful young women walking through London’s streets so confidently, in skirts ending several inches above the knee. All at perfect ease with themselves. Never for a moment would they have to endure hostile scrutiny from the squalid Sharia Patrols that their grand-daughters would routinely face less than 50 years later.

Stylishly dressed young men and women that actually looked like young men and young women. Never for a moment being put under pressure to be anything other than young men and young women. Never entertaining for one moment the ludicrous notion that there might be more than two genders.

Aspiration and healthy complexions appear to be everywhere, and mercifully the traffic appears to be elsewhere.

At 2:41 we see the Lord John Boutique, and the psychedelic mural above it. For those of you who may not know, that mural was a great (ahem) ‘influence’ on the design of the mural that eventually graced the catastrophic Beatles ‘Apple’ Boutique which opened later in 1967.  Did any Chit Chatter ever visit that fabled Beatles endeavour, or even ‘Bibi’ ? Sadly I missed them both by a few years. 

At around 6:00 we see some street traders making plentiful use of the Union Jack on their stall. Later self-imagined ‘progressive’ generations would view this as dangerously anachronistic, pretending it was both offensive and of course 'WAAAAAAAAAYYYYYCIST".

Swinging London at its very apex?  Certainly the influence of The Beatles and ‘Sgt Pepper’ can be witnessed regularly throughout this little gem of a film.
Report mecca January 31, 2018 11:46 PM GMT
Looked to me like a bunch of hippie Marxist post modernist types to me..

... you know the types that are now in powerful positions and intent on fluckin' this country up
Report lfc1971 February 1, 2018 9:31 AM GMT
Still no explanation by anyone as to why London should be considered a great city?

lets take a look at the attempt, however laughable, by asparagus:

1 The best city in the world for sporting events
what would they be then ? last time I looked the Isle of Man and Manx grand prix ran every year in the IoM, and the North West 200 motorbike road race in N.Ireland not London

2 Quality restuarants? I suppose anythings possible, I don't feel comfortable in quality restuarants, even a new jacket makes me feel uncomfortable

3.best city in the world for wine? I prefer the Czech Republic where beer is cheaper than water

4.best in the world for theatre? any new plays that coukld be recommended? or musicals that come to mind, you know` with new`songs written for the musical and not just songs that have existed for decades and cobbled together and sung on stage

5 missed out best city for gigs, well there are bands in every city in the country and just as in London when they manage to write a great new` songs I am sure we will all have heard of them and get the chance to see them,

then of course the people, yes well they are not much different from people all over the world, that's not necessarily a good thing
Report Jack Hacksaw February 1, 2018 9:55 AM GMT
Probably need to be on a hundred bags a year to enjoy that list.
Report unitedbiscuits February 1, 2018 10:01 AM GMT
I'd say London is pretty much the worst city in the world for gigs.

1) Ticket touts corner the market.
2) Prices for refreshments at places like the O2 are outrageous, screw-top champagne etc..awful quality.
3) The police always make sure the encores are kept to a minimum and the crowd is dispersed early.
4) Hyde Park shouldn't be used for concerts. It's flat ground.
5) There's nowhere for a crowd to go afterwards, central London locks down early.
Report Foinavon February 1, 2018 2:08 PM GMT
Best city in the world for soot-laden bogeys.
The art galleries are good, probably the best in the UK.

"best city in the world for wine"? Crazy wtf's all that about as if it mattered.Laugh
Report screaming from beneaththewaves February 1, 2018 3:14 PM GMT
mecca 31 Jan 18 23:46 Joined: 04 Apr 11 | Topic/replies: 5,084 | Blogger: mecca's blog
Looked to me like a bunch of hippie Marxist post modernist types to me..

... you know the types that are now in powerful positions and intent on fluckin' this country up


That's exactly what I thought watching it. Anything you don't like about London fifty years on, it's those very people in the film who are responsible for it.
Report lfc1971 February 1, 2018 3:50 PM GMT
you see that beautiful world that they enjoyed was not created by them, it was given to them by the previous generation who had gone through the war and hardships
Where they grateful? no, no one likes to be thankful
Report lfc1971 February 1, 2018 3:55 PM GMT
They were living in a country and were a generation that was more free more prosperous,and had more opportunities than any generation in any country in the history of the world.
Report asparagus February 1, 2018 4:32 PM GMT
Sporting events - Wembley stadium, Wimbledon, Twickenham, Lords, Ally Pally, a number of premiership teams, Sandown Park, the greatest Olympics ever, World athletics championships etc etc. More quality events than any other City.
Gigs. More great bands play London than any other City in the world. Great venues include Brixton, Hammersmith, Royal Albert Hall etc.
Quality wine from all over the world.
Restaurants. A world city = great restaurants of every cuisine.
Theatre. Loads of great plays new and old every year. Brilliant actors lining up to perform in the West End.

In addition to this many great museums, galleriesetc to visit which are free.


Basically if you want culture and entertainment  London is the place to be. If you want cheap beer and don't like going to good restaurants then maybe it's not for you.

I couldn't possibly consider living in another City in the UK. Nowhere else comes anywhere close.
Report twizzle22 February 1, 2018 4:40 PM GMT
London is NOW a $hithole ruined mainly by our ""come one come all policy" but mainly by Tony Blair and the Labour government.
Report lfc1971 February 1, 2018 5:20 PM GMT
ah yes asparagus Wembley stadium, that's football. we have that covered in other cities thanks
Wimbledon, fair enough have never been but would be tempted, maybe once,
so what?
Rugby? they play that in Wales and Scotland and Ireland also
the Olympics? I saw a couple of events in 2012, very good
wont bother again if the chance arises in 20 years time
Theatre, well what do you recommend I am sure if there was anything particularly good I might have heard
Sandown park can be visited more easily from many other parts of the country rather than London
great bands that play London? possibly but they are not from London that is the point, you see a great city does great things and creates great bands. Its easy to see them if you wish
great museums and art galleries, well actually they have some quite good museums and art galleries
I like art and have visited them, I get very tired in museums
does expensive wine suit you that's good, I like cheap beer

so there might be culture in London, but it is all museums, not being produced now
they might have good plays and musicals and bands
but they are not being produced now and haven't been for decades
If they have put a name to this culture, who are the great painters, who are the great playwrights, who are the great musicians ,
I don't know
and anyone can go and see them
Report lfc1971 February 1, 2018 5:23 PM GMT
you missed wentworth, I like that. But I like turnberry more
Report screaming from beneaththewaves February 1, 2018 5:39 PM GMT
I didn't mind London too much 30 years ago, when I had to live there for job reasons. There was enough history and ongoing, contemporary life in those streets that you could entertain yourself just walking through them - not to the extent of somewhere like Vienna, for instance - too dirty, crumbling and bereft of any sense of importance for that, but still a decent place to explore.

But a year or two ago I had the misfortune to have to walk north one Sunday afternoon from Clapham Junction to my mate's house in Battersea. Good God, it was like being transported back to the 1960s Slough in which I grew up - sad-faced immigrants shuffling aimlessly and morosely around the smelly burger bars and mini-marts in which they they earned a few bob without the authorities twigging.

I mean, if you are someone just trying to get a foothold in this country, get things moving, and understandably don't therefore give a stuff about your surroundings, then I can see how London would attract you in the same way Slough did 50 years ago. But other people are borrowing 7-figure sums to live in badly maintained terraces in exactly the same streets. Why on earth...? Because of the chance to spend hours standing on the tube to see Lady Gaga at the O2?
Report wit-ham February 1, 2018 6:07 PM GMT
Is not the 15/20 million visiters a year those coming over to visit relatives and use the Nhs

And when you reach 60 you get free travel anywhere in London payed for by guess who
everybody but only the few get it while us outside of the greatest city in the world lose our bus
services and train services for the pleasure

All this globalism will lead to the culling of the human race bar the elite
as robots do all the work the general dogsbody and the drain on resourses
will not be required anymore
  And now for something completely different and uplifting(not really lol)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdSqLfuRN18
Report wit-ham February 1, 2018 6:15 PM GMT
Wimbledon shuts at 23.00 hours i think ,just like the Aussie open Ifc1971
which goes on till whenever.
Report Foinavon February 1, 2018 6:54 PM GMT
My experience mirrors yours Screaming. I went to work in London almost 50 years ago and lived in the Richmond/Twickenham area for three years. Had a great time although I had to live in pokey attic room bedsits, it was all I could afford.
Recently, I've been to central London a couple of times with different visiting relatives from the USA and was shocked by how grotty and run down it has become. On Oxford street you can hardly breathe for the fumes and here and there people were queuing to eat in cramped basements. Went on one of the hop on, hop off bus tours and felt embarrassed for my guests at what we were seeing, but not to worry, luckily it was all new and different for them seeing some of the iconic sites for the first time. As for me, I never want to go there again.
Report wit-ham February 1, 2018 7:15 PM GMT
Yes much the same moved out 20 years ago
been back about 3 times for a lads night
out as is a good place to meet as noone more than
an hour on train.Enjoyed London until i hit thirties
then it lost it's appeal imo.
Report Johnny_Mustang February 1, 2018 7:39 PM GMT
“When a man is tired of London, he is tired of life, for there is in London all that life can afford”. Samuel Johnson was correct of course, and it sounds like a lot of you simply can’t afford it.
Report moisok February 1, 2018 7:44 PM GMT
I enjoyed it in the 60s and 70s but not so much these days  -  must be age
Report Foinavon February 1, 2018 7:46 PM GMT
Couldn't afford it then, could now.
Report The Dragon February 1, 2018 7:54 PM GMT
please post the link as its niot on here?

from my perspectiver i avoid london. overcrowded, full of traffic and queus and foreigners and its very dirty , no thank you
Report moisok February 1, 2018 8:11 PM GMT
I think they keep removing it.  Probably just put in 1960s youtube into search and you will see a lot of young men and women as it was in my days
Report MC Roller February 1, 2018 8:14 PM GMT
Why do they keep removing it?
Report moisok February 1, 2018 8:14 PM GMT
it is called london street scenes 1967
Report moisok February 1, 2018 8:15 PM GMT
because it shows the lack of colour  ho ho
Report moisok February 1, 2018 8:16 PM GMT
before the invasion
Report blackbarn February 1, 2018 8:30 PM GMT
Wit-ham - "And when you reach 60 you get free travel anywhere in London payed for by guess who
everybody but only the few get it while us outside of the greatest city in the world lose our bus
services and train services for the pleasure.

Where are you based?.  My over 60's free bus pass works in London and virtually everywhere else and is provided and issued by West Sussex County Council. Only bu66er is that it ain't valid from Chi Station to Goodwood Racecourse.
Report SlippyBlue February 1, 2018 8:34 PM GMT
I've been here there and everywhere in my time. I've spent long periods travelling and working in Germany, Canada, New Zealand, Australia and many years in Spain. But here I am now back where I belong, South East London where I was born and bred (Selhurst Park a 15 minute drive away Happy) and that's it for me now I would have thought. I'll never leave London again except for holidays of course but there is nowhere really that I haven't already been to that I particularly want to go again and that includes Vegas Shocked I can go to Spain and Ireland at the drop of a hat and stay with friends or family but I'm not in any particular hurry to do so at the moment.
I've got three lovely parks near me to walk Muttley, excellent pubs, my family not in any huge distance from me in any given direction, people who I knew when I was at College are still around that I bump into every now and then and everything else that London has got to offer practically on my doorstep. What's not to like?
Report saddo February 1, 2018 8:36 PM GMT
19 quid for fish'n'chips Laugh
Report SlippyBlue February 1, 2018 8:39 PM GMT
My only bugbear is that there aren't any greyhound stadiums in London anymore, I have to go to Hove for that which I don't mind doing a few times a year but not the same as going to Catford, Wimbledon or Walthamstow from back in the day.
Report SlippyBlue February 1, 2018 8:40 PM GMT
Oh give it a rest saddo! Laugh
Report Johnny_Mustang February 1, 2018 8:43 PM GMT
Similar to me Slippy. I grew up in Tooting, Streatham and Lewisham areas.
Report SlippyBlue February 1, 2018 8:54 PM GMT
Yes J_M, I remember you telling me. I used to go and see The Streatham Redskins play when I was a kid, then the bowling alley afterwards, I know Streatham well. I still pop into The Horse And Groom on the High Street every now and then when I'm in that neck of the woods.
Report kenny mann February 2, 2018 12:31 PM GMT
kenny mann
30 Jan 18 15:34
Beautifully described as expected, alun.



twizzle22

twizzle22
Date Joined: 05 Apr 11

Good post Kenny and very succinctly summarised at 15.28 alun.Couldn't agree more.




alun's post gone


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Report saddo February 2, 2018 1:41 PM GMT
Just seen about Bradford having the third cheapest houses in England, on Look North Kenny. I wonder why that is?
Report kincsem February 2, 2018 1:43 PM GMT
Johnny_Mustang
Yes, of course it's subjective, but it's my hometown and I've yet to see a finer city worldwide.


My vote goes to Melbourne.
Report kenny mann February 2, 2018 2:15 PM GMT
Really, saddo.That will be the inner city areas 2-3 miles out of the centre which are almost certainly over 60% Asian and other ethnics. But drive out past this boundary and you have some lovely houses and delightful scenery and probably 95% white.
Report twizzle22 February 2, 2018 3:44 PM GMT
Well i've had enough of it .Lived in this area (Elm Park,Essex) since 1976 and have put my house on the market.Going to pitch up down in Sidmouth,Devon and spend whats left of my life amongst my own demographic.
Report Johnny_Mustang February 2, 2018 4:18 PM GMT
You couldn't make it up. Someone from Essex complaining about another area's demographic.
Report twizzle22 February 2, 2018 4:24 PM GMT
200 miles away from the likes of Johnny_Mustang....BLISS
Report TheBaron February 2, 2018 5:27 PM GMT
Some people have no sense of their own absurdity, thankfully.  Wouldn't be funny otherwise.
Report wit-ham February 2, 2018 6:22 PM GMT
Talking about the Trains Blackbarn those that live in London(second house)
over 60 pay at most £11 to get to Witham 45 mins outside of London
While those in Witham would have to pay £23 either way
  Yes bus pass is free but that would take all day to get to London
Report kenny mann February 3, 2018 2:17 PM GMT
It was even more genteel a decade earlier, Another splendid time capsule by Pathe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUdoi_aTx1Q
Report Coachbuster February 3, 2018 2:57 PM GMT
London to me on these  1960s films looks just like it did in  1987 (apart from the motors)  ..seems the biggest changes have been over  the last 15 yrs or so
Report casemoney February 3, 2018 2:58 PM GMT
“When a man is tired of London, he is tired of life, for there is in London all that life can afford”

Was there 400 plus Mosques there When Sam was about Laugh

He would Think he was in Lahore if he came back Laugh
Report alun2005 February 3, 2018 3:14 PM GMT
London is so proud of its 'progressive' modern day schools and pupils, it was a no-brainer to invite Michelle Obama along this typical London school in 2015.

.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/michelle-obama/11677903/Michelle-Obama-in-London.html
Report moisok February 3, 2018 3:45 PM GMT
this is fake news alun  - you should be ashamed of yourself

clearly this is in Pakistan - I am very disappointed in you.
Report alun2005 February 3, 2018 3:53 PM GMT
They should have invited Mrs Obama to the School's Christmas Carol Service, right?
Report saddo February 3, 2018 3:53 PM GMT
Laugh
Report moisok February 3, 2018 4:05 PM GMT
Indeed.  And I will be keeping a much closer eye on you in future.

I am hovering over my platinum member's red button as I speak.
Report dambuster February 4, 2018 3:21 PM GMT
Alun2005, our posts keep getting deleted.
That proves we're talking the truth
Report kenny mann October 30, 2018 11:43 AM GMT
My opening post deleted too, dambuster. Don't know why as I'm very careful these days. No way back in.
Report wolf3011 October 30, 2018 12:25 PM GMT

Jan 31, 2018 -- 9:12AM, Johnny_Mustang wrote:


And yet it was the second-highest most visited city in the world last year. 20 million international visitors can't all be wrong.


No, but half of them are claiming asylum

Report dambuster October 30, 2018 12:55 PM GMT
Sadly True Wolf..
Come to London, you can do what you want, you won't get punished, and if you do, you can claim racial harrasment AND GET LOADS OF MONEY, ALL PAID FOR BY THE LOCAL PR1CK5 WHO ARE HARD WORKING LAW ABIDING PEOPLE
Report kenny mann October 30, 2018 1:21 PM GMT
The link went, along with my opening post.

Fabulous footage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zk0eyKzp1c
Report moisok October 30, 2018 1:46 PM GMT
One day our friends will show a very different view of london - won't they be so delirious to have stamped out all this gaiety and fun.
Report jamesdean October 30, 2018 3:19 PM GMT
Brilliant footage, excellent video.
Report woundedknee October 30, 2018 4:02 PM GMT
Utopia... everyone looks so relaxed .. no FILTH
Report moisok October 30, 2018 4:03 PM GMT
ray cyst!!!!!!!
Report moisok October 30, 2018 4:05 PM GMT
did you ever see the earlier pics from afghanistan  around that sort of time

same with Iran at an earlier age

see what our 'friends' have turned it into 

amazing

just saying  -
Report Whisperingdeath October 30, 2018 4:55 PM GMT
Gosh some of you girls are miserable.

London is amazing. If you don't like it go to Afghanistan, grow a beard and be miserable.

I thought I had reason to be uncheerful part 3! Took Mrs 'Death to the featre on Saturday. Thought I'd be smart and have a swifty in the pub next door, The Garrick on Charing Cross Road. 14 pound something for a pint of " Punk " IPA and a double VAT for Mrs 'Death! Did it ruin my evening? No! Bought two more rounds in the featre, the booze cost more than the tickets when the bell tolled!

Get over yourselves!
Report Shanelee1966 October 30, 2018 9:09 PM GMT
London is on a completely different level to all other UK cities, p1sses all over them. The downside is over crowding. No where near as expensive as people make out, well to visit anyway.
Report Gin October 31, 2018 11:48 AM GMT
I love London........Unless I am trying to find a decent place for a late-night drink - then it can be a pain in the arris.
Report TheBaron October 31, 2018 12:30 PM GMT
If I was in my early 20's I'd be off to London tomorrow.  Its a great city for the young.  So many opportunities for work and socialising.
Report kenny mann October 31, 2018 1:21 PM GMT
indeed it is. I can't understand why a million white people have left it this century.
Report saddo October 31, 2018 1:27 PM GMT
Laugh
Report scandanavian_haven October 31, 2018 2:04 PM GMT
You'll always find it's mostly miserable northerners that moan and whinge about London, can only be jealousy.
Report lfc1971 October 31, 2018 4:57 PM GMT
It’s a big fat cuckoo within England , never seen a worse collection of freaks in my life  ,
most are clearly uneducated
Report lfc1971 October 31, 2018 5:01 PM GMT
no one with a half functioning brain thinks anything good comes out of london , the rot will accelerate into chaos
Report Whisperingdeath October 31, 2018 6:43 PM GMT
Maybe they want to live in Rotherham Kenny!
Report Whisperingdeath October 31, 2018 6:43 PM GMT
Maybe they want to live in Rotherham Kenny!
Report Coachbuster November 1, 2018 3:26 AM GMT

Oct 31, 2018 -- 2:21PM, kenny mann wrote:


indeed it is. I can't understand why a million white people have left it this century.


cashing in on property maybe

Report Coachbuster November 1, 2018 3:30 AM GMT
It would be interesting to hear the views of 40s/50s/60s year old blokes  in 1967  ...all long since gone of course . 
  I'd also imagine that today's teens will look back on  2018 with nostalgia in 2068.
Report flushgordon1 November 1, 2018 7:11 AM GMT
London is a sh!thole on par with Beirut.
Report saddo November 1, 2018 9:01 AM GMT
I came off the tube at Mile End a few years back and thought that's where I was.
Report TheBaron November 1, 2018 1:44 PM GMT
Amazing how people become the miserable old gits they used to take the piss out of.
Report lfc1971 November 1, 2018 2:27 PM GMT
perhaps they are saying the same in Beirut
Report lfc1971 November 1, 2018 2:29 PM GMT
I think it was called the Paris of the east
That’s when the Christians were in charge
Report kenny mann November 1, 2018 3:04 PM GMT
Yes, that is a possibility I suppose, Coach'.
Report moisok November 1, 2018 3:08 PM GMT
so who were the customers that these gangs provided girls for??
Report blackbarn November 1, 2018 3:21 PM GMT
Coachbuster - Re your post of 03.30, here goes.  I started work in London in September 1968 aged 16. Although a year later, I guess the city was not much different. I worked in the Temple, just south of Fleet Street.  In my initial training group of about 12, there were several "immigrants" - I will name them as they each stick in my mind. As a Sussex village boy, they were all very new to me - John Juggernaut (from Mauritius, related to the ruling family), Anthony Igbinovia (from Biafra - they used to say "how long has ig bin over hereWhoops), Eugene Kosuch (Yugoslavia, I think), a Nigerian whose name I cannot remember other than it was a pleasant little assortment of o's l's and u's. All the rest of the group were white males (no femalesCry The remainder of the group were Brits, all older than me and mostly from the East End or Essex; Odd that I can remember none of their surnamesCrazy

My memories of that time were in order.......

£7 7s a week starting, only a couple of quid less than my dad on the Farm.  Mind you my rail season ticket was over £2
The Smoking Carriage on the 06.24 from Haywards Heath to London Bridge (They'd saved smog specially from the 50's) - Solo Whist Card Schools good though once you got in.
The gigs - Marquee, UFO, Lyceum.
Going to Carnaby Street for the first time, I later learnt that Kings Road was better.
Harlequin Record Shop in Fleet Street (which still had listening booths - Chelsea Morning by Joni was the first thing I heard in a booth)
The Betting Shop opposite Harlequin Records (Denis Compton used to bet there)
Just how many bombsites (in the WW2 sense) there still were, over 25 years later.
The Dickensian buildings in the Temple, the Old Cheshire Cheese pub and the cafe by Temple Tube stations (Bacon buttiesHappy)
Report scandanavian_haven November 1, 2018 3:43 PM GMT
only thing Fleet street is good for nowadays is McDonalds - in case you need the toilet. There's still a cafe next to Temple station, opposite a news stand, well more like a hybrid newsagent/cafe.
Report lfc1971 November 1, 2018 4:08 PM GMT
If we look at the ancestry of people who live in London today , well then it’s a meaningless thing of course
Report lfc1971 November 1, 2018 4:14 PM GMT
Ethnically I have no idea what a Londoner is
Report Whisperingdeath November 1, 2018 4:26 PM GMT
To be fair lfc,

You don't have any idea of what anything is, go back to your village, they need you!
Report saddo November 1, 2018 4:29 PM GMT
The young cuckoo outgrows it's rivals and pushes them out of the nest lfc.
Report kenny mann November 1, 2018 4:29 PM GMT
The link went, along with my opening post.

Fabulous footage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zk0eyKzp1c
Report moisok November 1, 2018 4:35 PM GMT
the bruvvers will be fuming
Report Shanelee1966 November 1, 2018 6:09 PM GMT
I never realized until recently the population of some London boroughs, there are more people in Croyden & Camden than in the City of Manchester.
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