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GoBallistic
19 Jan 18 10:37
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I can't wait to pop over to France on my bike.  Hard to see any flaws at all in this bold and ambitious plan

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By:
donny osmond
When: 19 Jan 18 10:46
build it and THEY will come...
By:
glasshouses dogman
When: 19 Jan 18 10:56
This must seem to be a brilliant idea to Boris. What could cap this from him?

To think some people think he would be a good PM.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 19 Jan 18 11:36
Monorail!
By:
1st time poster
When: 19 Jan 18 11:42
he,ll probably connect it to boris island airport in the thames,has he finished that yet
By:
TELL DEL
When: 19 Jan 18 12:27
This is such an epic joke ! Does Boris know we already have planes, a ferry, and trains..... and what about the massively expensive failure of the London Garden Bridge ?!!! He is such a bloody **** ! This b@llocks is so dumb.Shocked I have a better idea, why not just drain the Channel ?
By:
1st time poster
When: 19 Jan 18 12:47
after the swamp of course I hope
By:
1st time poster
When: 19 Jan 18 12:53
that's boris all over takes up every ounce of oxygen in the country discussing breaking away from a place where he now wants to spend billions upon billions  to join us up to a continent, ,in a way he never advocated when we were partners for the last 50 years, why doesn't he advocate bridges,tunnels to join us up with Ireland,isle of man,white.jersey etc
like his mate gove they just love the limelight ,if you put gove in charge of pelican crossings they,d be in the news ,front page of the papers everyday
By:
TELL DEL
When: 19 Jan 18 13:00
This would be a really good one if it was April 1st. Typical Boris, likes to get his name in the news.
By:
glasshouses dogman
When: 19 Jan 18 13:27
Just shows how rubbish most of our politicians are when somebody like Boris actually holds one of the main positions in our government.
By:
tictacman1
When: 19 Jan 18 14:04
The English Channel is the busiest shipping area in the world.

What Could Possibly Go Wrong ?
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 19 Jan 18 14:42
Glad you lot weren't around in Brunel's time.

Somebody suggests building something to boost trade and the economy, and you just can't stop yourselves: "Ridiculous proposal - there might be problems." "Can't do it - there might be an accident." "Who needs a bridge across the Avon anyway?"

Good on you, Boris. We're Europeans, and that's got sod all to do with subscribing to a smug bureaucracy in Brussels.
By:
1st time poster
When: 19 Jan 18 16:33
get it up sharpish before it has to slalom between a 1000 wind turbines
By:
1st time poster
When: 19 Jan 18 16:36
screaming so why has no one decided to do it before ,or when the tunnel was built, all the gear,skills,engineering were in place to do another rd,rail tunnel if required,and a bridge was surely investigated before the tunnel was built and decided against
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 19 Jan 18 16:51
I doubt whether a bridge was seriously investigated before. It's only this century that all those bridges of similar or much, much greater length have been successfully completed in the Far East:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_longest_bridges

The tunnel idea has been around far longer. Even the 1880 project got half way there, before the British government pulled the plug (as it were) owing to invasion fears. So the current version is really only the completion of a project first given the go-ahead when the engineering know-how for a bridge wasn't in place.
By:
Injera
When: 19 Jan 18 17:20
Must admit I thought a tunnel was much more barmy and now we wouldn't be without it.

The Garden Bridge WAS daft. How many bridges over the Thames do we need??

Let's go for it (tall shipping, high winds permitting).

Carillion would be my choice.
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 19 Jan 18 18:37
Yes. The garden bridge was daft. As you say, it wasn't exactly filling a gap in the market. This is different. Nobody would ever look at a 20-mile stretch of water now and consider digging underneath it (hence those 100-mile bridges in China).

The way companies like Carillion are suddenly unable to raise the finance, I wonder whether we've started a debt deflation - the worst sort, where nobody is willing to lend any longer at virtually zero per cent, and all those badly run companies which have survived on cheap lending are going to be found out. I can see governments all over the world being forced to print money on an epic scale for projects like a Channel bridge, just to keep the economy moving and the population in work.

Of course, the end result of that, a decade on, is 15% inflation and 10% interest rates, but at least houses will be half the price they are now.

Go for it, Boris!
By:
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When: 19 Jan 18 19:39
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By:
Knight Commander
When: 19 Jan 18 19:40
Hope Teresa the appeaser doesn't get to hear about this. She'll probably offer to pay for it Sad
By:
casemoney
When: 19 Jan 18 21:41
Will there be an Express Lane for Child Refugees ?
By:
Capt__F
When: 19 Jan 18 22:43
never burn your bridges
By:
akabula
When: 19 Jan 18 22:46
Would trump Donalds wall.
By:
Capt__F
When: 19 Jan 18 22:53
don cant get it up
By:
Foinavon
When: 19 Jan 18 23:44
It's like all big projects (with the possible exception of Barbara's folly, the Humber bridge), they look too expensive to build but once you have them you can't do without.
We have no back up should something serious happen to the channel tunnel.
By:
cooperman
When: 20 Jan 18 07:55
^^ apart from ferries and aircraft.
By:
lfc1971
When: 20 Jan 18 08:32
We are an island and don't want to be connected in any way with Europe , it only encourages them to stick their neb in !
By:
lfc1971
When: 20 Jan 18 08:36
I suppose it will cost us millions into the future just to ensure that France is able to police its borders
By:
lfc1971
When: 20 Jan 18 08:43
It really is quite incredible , millions of pounds given to France when all they have to do is lock up illegal immigrants
They can't even do that can they,  no ? No physical part of England should be connected to France
By:
cooperman
When: 20 Jan 18 09:01
I can see problems, French set off over here driving on the right. We set off over there driving on the left...............
By:
lfc1971
When: 20 Jan 18 09:24
It's nice not to be part of Europe , separated by the sea
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 20 Jan 18 10:18
Good point, cooperman.

The obvious answer is to build two bridges.
By:
cooperman
When: 20 Jan 18 10:40
I was thinking services at the halfway point
By:
Injera
When: 20 Jan 18 11:13
A Bridge Too Far?
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 20 Jan 18 11:44
The English Channel is the busiest shipping area in the world.

Easily solved, divert all the shipping that now goes through the channel to go around the other side of Britain.

I don't know if that would suit the Russians when they want to sail through, they might just blow it out of the water to save going around.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 20 Jan 18 11:45
^Neither sentence to be taken seriously.
By:
pixie
When: 20 Jan 18 13:34
LOL at SBTW and Cooperman.LaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
Foinavon
When: 20 Jan 18 13:43
cooperman
20 Jan 18 07:55
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^^ apart from ferries and aircraft.


Good to know we have all that spare capacity sitting around doing nothing if it could cope with the volume of freight going through the tunnel.
By:
Foinavon
When: 20 Jan 18 13:49
https://www.getlinkgroup.com/uk/group/operations/traffic-figures/
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 20 Jan 18 16:17
If you build it, commerce increases to take advantage of the new opportunities.

To say it's unnecessary, because we currently get by with a tunnel, shipping and air freight, is like saying computers are unnecessary because we have pencils and logarithm tables; and the internet's just a pointlessf luxury, when we already have books and newspapers and a postal service.

But provide the hardware, and people come up with all sorts of new ways to exploit it. As Foinavon said, before you know it, going back to the way things were becomes unthinkable.
By:
Mr.Anderson
When: 20 Jan 18 17:14
I would recommend doing a so called cost-benefit analysis (economists do them) before you start construction Happy I.e. do the benefits to your country outweigh the costs? I suspect it would be very unprofitable, but I haven't done any calculations Happy Benefits would obviously have been greater if you didn't already have a tunnel, and wouldn't need customs and immigration checks.
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