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bigmo
09 Jan 18 19:43
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Virgin Trains has been accused of “censorship” after it announced it would no longer stock the Daily Mail due to concerns over its stance on immigration, gay rights and unemployment.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/01/09/virgin-trains-accused-censorship-removing-daily-mail-shops/


Not a Daily Mail reader but a dangerous development imho.

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STUDYFORM
When: 09 Jan 18 20:32
This means people getting on Virgin trains will have to buy them somewhere else!

A bit like Liverpool where hardly any shops stock or sell The Sun.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 09 Jan 18 21:02
I suppose if you funnel all your profits offshore you can afford to make a stance.
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 09 Jan 18 21:21
I read a few newspapers on line pretty much every day but if I'm on a train I'll just get Metro or The London Standard before boarding for something to read. I do read the Daily Mail but I don't really do politics that much so just skim through it til I get to the sport and racing pages and I don't take too much notice of their journalism agenda personally.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 09 Jan 18 21:44
Ryanair still sell the Mail onboard.

£2 Euros per page.
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 09 Jan 18 21:47
Sounds about right Dr. C.Plain
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 09 Jan 18 21:49
Virgin own cable don't they?

I hope people don't suddenly realise how expensive it is, and swap to one of the other providers that are much cheaper.
By:
blackbarn
When: 09 Jan 18 21:49
Whats the difference between a newspaper "taking a stance" and a seller/provider of said organ "taking a stance"?
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 09 Jan 18 21:53
I thought Branson had got more sense than that.

He must be losing his grip.
By:
blackbarn
When: 09 Jan 18 21:57
Perhaps he's taking a stanceWink.  Not sure the public will be falling over themselves NOT to book anything Virgin cos they can't get a particular rag.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 09 Jan 18 21:58
I would had thought Virgin trains job was get people from a to b not decide what they may read, what next, blocking the internet connection on the train ?
By:
donny osmond
When: 09 Jan 18 21:58
what will folk use instead?
By:
donny osmond
When: 09 Jan 18 22:01
i've never seen a paper for sale on a train , sometimes see them left behind but never for sale
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 09 Jan 18 22:02
Why would Branson stick his neck out when he's got nothing to gain, it's very poor business.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 09 Jan 18 22:04
Or scattered on the floor.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 09 Jan 18 22:04
They stock them on the trolley.
By:
blackbarn
When: 09 Jan 18 22:05
IS - whatever their core business is, outside that they can largely do what they want.... Choose their coffee suppliers, decide what ciders to sell, choose their toilet paper supplier..... now there's an idea!.  Seriously though, what is the problem here.
By:
blackbarn
When: 09 Jan 18 22:09
Dr C......."Why would Branson stick his neck out when he's got nothing to gain, it's very poor business".

Think about that question??  and then think again about why.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 09 Jan 18 22:09
Branson's taking a stance against the right.

Wouldn't it be funny if Corbyn won the next GE and nationalised all his companies.
By:
blackbarn
When: 09 Jan 18 22:20
DC - There's a bit of that, but the DM and Branson have history; Amongst other stuff, publishing in big print Lett's stuff on him didn't endear them to him. They of course are free to attack, he in turn is free to defend or attack in turn.
By:
moisok
When: 09 Jan 18 22:30
Couldn't he have an article published in the Guardian or Independent to slag off the daily fail.  Oh! Hardly any one reads that, and the other went under as a newspaper

oops  sorry about that
By:
mafeking
When: 09 Jan 18 22:58
not the first company to make what seems a rather daft gesture. even though they may not read the mail around 50% of the population are right leaning
By:
casemoney
When: 09 Jan 18 23:41
What would Branson know about this Country Does he even Live here anymore ???

Most news Papers Print what they think their readers want to Read it is up to the Individual to Chose what he/she wants to Read ...
By:
lfc1971
When: 10 Jan 18 02:13
This is a dangerous development . If it is a business decision that is one thing but if it politically motivated Branson and whoever made this decision should be arrested and charged with improper conduct and censorship of a free press
It's easily determined, look at the sales figures of the mail in relation to other papers sold
By:
lfc1971
When: 10 Jan 18 02:16
If there is a particular employee or number of employees involved in this decision then they along with Branson should have to justify this decision on business grounds in court .
By:
Injera
When: 10 Jan 18 07:27
Opportunity for the Mail to take the high ground and say 'are we bovvered?' Sadly they're getting all uppity about it.

What people like Branson, Blair and the BBC don't yet grasp is that the more they seek to punish people for voting Brexit the more we will lean to the Right.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 10 Jan 18 09:00
Branson's losing the plot.
He's a businessman first and his personal opinions should take a second place to that.

Using his company as political tool is bad business in anyone's book.
By:
terry mccann
When: 10 Jan 18 09:08
there has been bad blood between Branson and the Mail for years,its got worse recently and the rebel has thrown his toys out of his pram
By:
anxious
When: 10 Jan 18 10:17
Do people really believe that by banning a truly awful newspaper that it change the way anybody votes, this is probably a personal feud  between branson and the mail , its is laughable though when a rotten rag like the Mail cries about being picked on
By:
Ramruma
When: 10 Jan 18 10:48
Does Branson still own Virgin trains? Like Donald Trump (whatever happened to him?) he makes squillions from selling the brand name.

In any case, one private sector business deciding not to stock one particular product is hardly the bolsheviks storming the winter palace.
By:
Ramruma
When: 10 Jan 18 10:51
I'm not a Branson groupie but most of his recent utterances seem to be thinly-disguised adverts for Neckar Island.
By:
alun2005
When: 10 Jan 18 14:17
How long will it be before persons are denied PUBLIC services (such as NHS), because they may appear to hold the 'wrong' political view?


It wasn't that long ago when three foster children were outrageously and disgracefully removed from a couple's care because the couple were UKIP supporters. 

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https://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/may/20/council-mistakes-ukip-foster-parents
By:
Ramruma
When: 10 Jan 18 15:28
The only three papers Virgin trains will sell are the Mirror, the Times and the Financial Times.

Where's the thread for outraged Guardian readers?
By:
Injera
When: 10 Jan 18 15:30
In any case, one private sector business deciding not to stock one particular product is hardly the bolsheviks storming the winter palace.

Ramruma on fire!!
By:
lfc1971
When: 10 Jan 18 15:41
As usual people like ramruma don't understand, it is not a question of whether the newspaper is on the left or right or liberal
Why has Branson stopped the Mail , that is the question
Did they not sell and the times and financial times and mirror did sell ?
We don't know
By:
donny osmond
When: 10 Jan 18 15:50
mail readers more likely to be using free bus passes, imo
By:
Just Checking
When: 10 Jan 18 15:50
Ahh but we do know. The original story released was that there weren't enough sales, but it since then an internal memo has come out that it's poltically motivated, snowflake crap , quote from virgin memo:... "the Mail’s editorial position on issues such as immigration, LGBT rights, and unemployment"..

There is a principle at stake here imho. Do they make a loss if they aren't sold? The daily mail oversteps the mark but I'm sick to death of the attacks on freedom of speech and debate by the left, the no platforming, the safe spaces and so on, the calling everyone they disagree with racists and so on. I use trains, next time if there's a choice it won't be Virgin. Last Virgin train I used was cr*p anyway, virtually no luggage space and corridors piled high with it, shudder to think about what would happen in an accident.
By:
lfc1971
When: 10 Jan 18 15:56
Are there any instances of a public service such as the railways refusing to sell the guardian ?
By:
donny osmond
When: 10 Jan 18 15:58
virgin money have lounges up and down the country where you get a cuppa and can read the paper

i wonder if mail will be available?
By:
lfc1971
When: 10 Jan 18 15:59
Perhaps Branson has banned the guardian also from virgin rail shops ?
And made a statement that it wasn't possible to allow passengers to buy it , or for it to given free to use first class
I don't know
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