David Icke.

If I think i'm wrong I do apologise. In this case I don't think I am so wont.

Who do you think you are? You seem to think you're important. I have no respect for you.

Charlie
Dr C
Do I detect a bit of a threat there. Quoting option and italics not working but I refer to: Especially on a forum where you don't have to do it to their face.

Why would you come to that conclusion? The point that DrC is making is that it's easy to be a keyboard warrior than one in real life.

And your point is?

This is getting bollocks now. I served in the army Dr C is a landlord. Fck knows what you do or did. Come on tell us. Keyboard warrior is easy so please tell us about your bravery.

I was asking a question, not making a point.

Come on aka you seem to have gone quiet.

Bollocks. You sticking up for your mate.

I served in the army

A waiter in the NAAFI?

If only you knew. You're a tart as well.

Actually on this thread I disagree with DrC on Icke.
However I don't see the need to be abusive to do so.

A Rhubarb one I hope.

Ok, I'll agree as well .

Absolutely akabula, there's no need to be rude just because of a difference of opinion.

Sorry aka. No offence meant. Rhubarb is my favourite by the way!

My father couldn't make toast and beans but he made a great rhubarb Tart.
Was the only thing culinary he ever did. Said he learned it in the Navy.
At the time I never asked him to expand on that, sadly too late now.

I will apologise again because thread has gone off topic. Back to Icke. He needs a psychiatrist. Not mention a few others.

You just posted that aka before mine. Sad thing is that we lose family before we say what we should.

I don't believe anything Icke says, that's me default setting.
I think that's quite an acceptable position to take given the 'Son of God', Hollow Moon and Lizard people claims.

I never believed anything that Mark Twain wrote but I still read his books.

Although many of his quotes ring true.

Are you saying you don't believe in Icke?

hi Charlie you mis-understand me,you say Icke lies so I wanted to know why you say that, it needs to be pointed out that aliens are just one of many many that Icke talks about,its all about the dangers that we are living in, but if you guys just want to try to take the p1ss well its up to you

Icke is what's known as controlled opposition. With the same earnesty, he mixes truth with patently ridiculous statements in order to discredit the truthful statements.

Anyone who repeats the actual truth can then be tarnished with the mad brush.

back it up then m8

A certain hand sign was pulled by him on the Wogan show. You know, pyramids and 33 degrees and that. Shh!

o another 30 odd years behind,a lot to catch up on

I still think he might be leading some up a blind alley, but yes, I'm willing to resaerch some of is later stuff.

That's a bit too complicated for this thread Get me a drink.

They'll be calling you names next coming out with stuff like that.

look at his official site

I watched an Icke video on the Balfour declaration of 1917.

Nothing sensational at all, simply a sober discussion on its affects which are quite relevant today.

I believe a lot of his stuff is simply show business.

I'll take a look, but please excuse my skepticism at this point.

To get on in a field such as his you have to draw attention to yourself.

They do say there is no such thing as bad publicity. Well not in show business anyway,

Let's skip the size of the moon being wrong, being hollow and being inhabited stuff as it's sheer lunacy. Icke does a good job there of ridiculing himself.

But when you get on to holocaust denial then you really have to question the sanity of the guy and anyone who supports him.

Do you deny the holocaust ever happened Charlie?

Absolutely not. It happened.

Do you?

Yes of course I believe it happened.

Why taint Icke's name with holocaust denial?

Because he is associated with denial.

So let's get to the truth. Why support him?

So you've got nothing on him then?

He's never denied the holocaust happened has he?

He's reported as being so.

If he's never done it then why accuse him of it?

That's libel and against the law.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/david-irving-holocaust-denial-neo-nazi-alt-right-london-forum-meeting-auschwitz-hitler-revisionist-a7719291.html

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/shape-shifting-lizards-rule-world-11538109

I can go on if you want.

Icke is not even mentioned in the first link.

In the second link there's nothing there that says he denied the holocaust happened.

So try again.

Come admit it, Icke has never denied the holocaust happened.

Why do you think he's associated with this?

He's never denied the holocaust happened.

It's the claim of liars.

First link: Undercover at a secret ‘neo-Nazi’ meeting with Holocaust denier David Irving

Second: Shape-shifting lizards rule the world? Crazy conspiracies that prompted Man Utd to cancel David Icke's Old Trafford show

Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke

Just show me one denial please.

Ike does not question whether the holocaust ever happened, he never has.

It's people like you who the sensational headlines are written to attract that take a suggestion for a fact, and then make fools of themselves over it.
Or in your case make liars of themselves.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jan/15/david-irving-youtube-inspiri...

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jan/15/david-irving-youtube-inspiring-holocaust-deniers

Try again.

So you're saying at least four sources of info are lying whereas you know the truth?

I'll agree with you that one of us is making a fool of themselves. Try and find something to back you futile arguments up.

Not one of them says he's a holocaust denier.

Not one quote from Icke that shows him saying the holocaust never happened.

This is something else you need to apologise for Charlie.

Sixteen years after an English court discredited his work and the judge called him “antisemitic and racist”, the historian David Irving claims he is inspiring a new generation of “Holocaust sceptics”.

On the eve of a major new Bafta-nominated film about the trial, Irving, who has dismissed what happened at Auschwitz concentration camp during the second world war as “Disneyland”, says that a whole new generation of young people have discovered his work via the internet and social media.

So you don't believe this?

If he'd actually said anything to that effect, it would have taken no more then 10 seconds to find it.

You don't seem to get the message Dr C i would apologise if I've said something wrong. In this case I haven't.

So you know better than an English Court?

Facts Charlie, and quotes from his mouth are what is needed not sensational headlines about other people.

I can't believe you're confusing Icke with Irving.

Unbelievable that is, or desperation at being shown up as telling lies.

Come on Charlie, grow a pair and apologise.

Let's read this:

https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=104958

Coming on here libelling people, and then citing evidence about other people as if it were Icke himself.

How low can you get.

That's lower than a snake's belly wearing a top hat.

You are a fool.

Well I'm not a liar like you.

I have not libelled anyone. I have said that anyone who supports Icke is a weirdo. A court would find for me.

Where have I told lies?

"Above all," began the chair of the meeting, "David Icke represents a political threat. His writings are anti-Semitic. David Icke states that the global elite, the Illuminati who dominate every aspect of our lives, are genetically descended from an extraterrestrial race of reptiles who came to earth some time ago in the form of humans, who are capable of changing their shape, who engage in ritual child sacrifice, who drink blood . . ."

Fckin nutter.

Job done I'd say.

Indeed you have not presented a shred of evidence for Icke being sane. Well done.

And so I must stick with my post of anyone who supports Icke is a weirdo.

As for 9/11: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNwkejA-Nbw

Bloke and supporters are nutters.

Dr C wd you have david as a tennant ?

chalie,you are bang out of order

**** like Charlie shouldn't post making up stuff,icke is not and has never been an holocaust denier , o yes that what Zionists make up to get Ickes gigs cancelled,and its lies and f ucking Charlie here is just as bad

as I keep saying,people only know Icke from an interview from 30 years ago,they have no idea what he does now,and it shows with the bullsh1t they post, thought ifc was bad but Charlie you are the real deal,nobody deserves G5 but you I'm not so sure

He was repeating the lizard people stiff in the newspapers not that long ago, some time last year in fact.
i can give the link if you want?

I just hope Charlie has learned his lesson here, and I don't have to smack his bottom again for calling people names.

I'm afraid I was one of the one's who thought he was a total fruit loop when I saw him on Wogan all those years ago. I realize now that we've all being conditioned through our lives to perceive things a certain way. Icke thinks outside of this box. He calls it the 'postage stamp consensus'

People like our Charlie here are programmed (as we all are) to reject and ridicule anything that falls outside of this postage stamp consensus. He just doesn't realize yet that he's both a sheep and (on this thread) a sheep dog to herd us back toward the postage stamp consensus.

^ that is the classic concept of the conspiracy theorist though. so you think outside the box and are therefore somehow
better informed and everyone else are "sheep". the sheep thing seems to get used a lot.
the sheer conceit of it is staggering.

and to this day northlite,and he says why he believes it, perhaps you should check it out and then your opinion might be worth listening to

he might be talking sh1t but least find out why he says it and why he 100p/c belives

the saying "people follow like sheep" has been around a mighty long time,i wonder why.

if it all makes you feel a little bit special terry then you keep on believing while us sheep keep serving our reptilian
overlords

no mate not at all, look up "china,one belt one road" that's part of our future

We are all sheep because we don't experience everything we learn first hand. We all rely on media, our peers, family, education, etc for the majority of the information we receive. If there's a lot of plausible bullshit in that mix we are going to believe it along with 'the truth.'

for example someone brought up the holocaust and holocaust denial. I doubt if many of us on this thread know anything first hand about the holocaust. We only know about it through the channels previously mentioned, yet we all take it as read that it happened.

I'm sure it happened,but going back to what northlite,there is two things,first icke must of known by saying about alien demons he would called a nutter with all the flak that goes with it,a second,he names people,now wouldn't you have thought he would be sued to hell and back? and yet hes heard nothing.

I would have thought David icke was the biggest shepherd of them all

can you imagine if somebody did sue? icke would think it was a gift with all that publicity and insanity surrounding
such a case.
would you be the one wanting to stand up in court and say honestly your honour i am not an alien reptile
shape shifter
personally i would love to see it

what if they were

its actually standing up in court and saying honestly your honour I'm not a child killer/rapist,and I don t drink their blood after I ate them alive.yes I can see why you wouldn't responded to that

Jan 9, 2018 -- 11:15AM, Dr Crippen wrote:

I just hope Charlie has learned his lesson here, and I don't have to smack his bottom again for calling people names.

You really shouldn't give out your fantasises on here. People less kind than myself may call you a pervert.

for example someone brought up the holocaust and holocaust denial. I doubt if many of us on this thread know anything first hand about the holocaust. We only know about it through the channels previously mentioned, yet we all take it as read that it happened.

Lets be honest GMAD given the coverage this got at the time from journalists, thousands of witnesses, the mass graves, the camps and the survivors storys then you would need to be a complete idiot, or bigot, to deny it.

Your argument about first hand evidence is of no consequence given that we all die and therefore they'll always be a time for every event where nobody who lived through it is still alive.

People less kind than myself may call you a pervert.

Call me what you like, you might as well, you've called me everything else.

odd thing is Charlie didn't reply to me,bullsh1tter that he is

What part of your drivel haven't I replied to?

thick as sh1t as well,bugger off man with your sticking lies

*stinking lies

I think you need a bit of sun on you to wake your reptilian brain up.