and what a load of pretentious bollocks about Knebworth.. bloody Robbie Williams did more dates which puts that in perspective...I can understand why people who were about 14 at the time would be impressed.
and what a load of pretentious bollocks about Knebworth.. bloody Robbie Williams did more dates which puts that in perspective...I can understand why people who were about 14 at the time would be impressed.
Robbiw Williams done more dates because Oasis decided to do 2 nights only at Nebworth. They could've done 10 nights as 2.6million people applied for tickets. So that's more people who tried and didn't get tickets for Oasis that went to see Robbie..
Robbiw Williams done more dates because Oasis decided to do 2 nights only at Nebworth. They could've done 10 nightsas 2.6million people applied for tickets. So that's more people who tried and didn't get tickets for Oasis that went to see Robbie..
If there's one thing the middle class and the privileged fear and despise it's people from the bottom of the social scale who are articulate and achieve something in life, especially if the latter don't care about being socially acceptable to those selfsame privileged types.
The Gallaghers were that in spades. Twenty years ago they invoked genuine hatred in a couple of people I know who were from that comfortable social profile, and who have both gone on to become Remainers and Stalinists (or Corbynist social democrats, as they prefer to call themselves).
If there's one thing the middle class and the privileged fear and despise it's people from the bottom of the social scale who are articulate and achieve something in life, especially if the latter don't care about being socially acceptable to those s
ive never heard such twaddle , this is about musical abilty not political beliefs , the gallaghers are from Burnage which is about 5 miles from where i live and believe me there are far more under - privileged parts of Manchester
ive never heard such twaddle , this is about musical abilty not political beliefs , the gallaghers are from Burnage which is about 5 miles from where i live and believe me there are far more under - privileged parts of Manchester
good post sfbtw, I enjoyed hearing about the early life of oasis and it was striking some of the similarities between their background and members of the Beatles
good post sfbtw, I enjoyed hearing about the early life of oasis and it was striking some of the similarities between their background and members of the Beatles
I find it interesting that with the invention of rock and roll , well with the invention of the electric guitar really Suddenly there was this explosion of musical talent , first in America and then England And it was ordinary young people who suddenly found they were able to write songs etc It makes you think what about the generations before who were equally talented ..but no one ever knew They were waiting for the invention of the electric guitar
I find it interesting that with the invention of rock and roll , well with the invention of the electric guitar really Suddenly there was this explosion of musical talent , first in America and then England And it was ordinary young people who sudden
Do you know just 2 guitars , drums , and a base guitar , that's all Can be as musically intense and emotionally powerful as a complete symphony orchestra That's astonishing when you think about it
Do you know just 2 guitars , drums , and a base guitar , that's all Can be as musically intense and emotionally powerful as a complete symphony orchestra That's astonishing when you think about it
Commercial radio played a big part too. It actually enabled those voices to be heard. Elvis heard the blues, and Lennon heard Elvis ... and eventually Noel Gallagher seems to have heard everything.
Mind you, at the same time those musical voices were emerging, so was literature from writers of a genuinely non-privileged background. Think of Len Deighton, born in the Marylebone Workhouse hospital ("trumps everybody's ace, doesn't it?" as he observes). It was the War, as much as anything, I think, which suddenly made a whole generation think they could be more than factory fodder.
The War wrecked the lives of so many who entered it as young adults, but it somehow seems to have inspired those a few years younger to shake off the shackles. Maybe the experiences of their elders and parents from 1939 to 1945 meant that they were the first generation brought up with a sense of having nothing to lose, and a healthy disrespect of inherited authority.
Commercial radio played a big part too. It actually enabled those voices to be heard. Elvis heard the blues, and Lennon heard Elvis ... and eventually Noel Gallagher seems to have heard everything. Mind you, at the same time those musical voices were
[i] If there's one thing the middle class and the privileged fear and despise it's people from the bottom of the social scale who are articulate and achieve something in life, especially if the latter don't care about being socially acceptable to those selfsame privileged types.
The Gallaghers were that in spades
A late contender for the biggest load of old bollocks written on this forum in 2017.
[i]If there's one thing the middle class and the privileged fear and despise it's people from the bottom of the social scale who are articulate and achieve something in life, especially if the latter don't care about being socially acceptable to thos
... But not well loved enough to prevent Labour losing 78 seats at the next General Election, and seeing its majority fall from 146 to 5. Twenty months later Attlee called another election, lost it, and Labour didn't return to Number 10 for thirteen more years. The generation which voted Labour in 1945 never did so again.
My mother (impeccable working-class credential: went to the same school as Michael Caine - not a lot of people know that) always said that the 1945 result was down to people remembering what life had been like under the Tories before the War, and voting against a return to that, rather than for socialism. Labour's heavy losses at subsequent elections suggests there might be some truth in what she said.
In the minds of a lot of people back then socialism, as exemplified by Russia, was indistinguishable from Nazi-ism. Russia under Stalin was the firmest and most enthusiastic ally the Nazis ever had. From 1939 to 1941 the Russian and German people fought side-by-side to dismantle Poland and carve up eastern Europe. Whatever Hitler wanted, Stalin sold him. In 1940 there was nothing but Britain and its Empire left willing to stand up to the might of Germany and Russia combined.
People also remembered how in 1940 it had been Pierre Laval, a left-wing socialist, who had discovered just how much he had in common with his new Nazi rulers, and who had facilitated the French collaboration with the Germans. Like so many on the left he despised Jews, and combined that with a general hatred of the English to persuade the French parliament to vote to abolish itself.
The French Communist party had been outlawed when the War started, but still did all they could to support the Nazi invasion. In July 1940 French Communists circulated a pamphlet, L'Humanite du Soldat, which claimed it was no more than a war on behalf of Anglo-French financiers. They were only repeating the line of their controllers in Moscow. On 31 October 1939 Molotov, the Soviet Foreign Minister, had announced that it was "criminal to take part in a war which, disguised as a war for the preservation of democracy, is nothing but a war for the destruction of National Socialism."
Whatever persuaded so many UK voters to vote against Churchill in 1945, it wasn't necessarily a desire for socialism.
... But not well loved enough to prevent Labour losing 78 seats at the next General Election, and seeing its majority fall from 146 to 5. Twenty months later Attlee called another election, lost it, and Labour didn't return to Number 10 for thirteen
Such as shame that they moan about tony mccarrroll taking them to court,but fail to mention the Neil Innes court case or all the other 'copy & paste' settlements that they had to honour in the past.
They even ripped off the name of the band from a leisure centre
Such as shame that they moan about tony mccarrroll taking them to court,but fail to mention the Neil Innes court case or all the other 'copy & paste' settlements that they had to honour in the past.They even ripped off the name of the band from a lei