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A_T
13 Dec 17 08:00
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Chronic asthma but still able to win the world's most demanding sporting events. Respect.
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Report northanlite December 13, 2017 8:18 AM GMT
naughty
Report maleuk01. December 13, 2017 8:28 AM GMT
It is amazing the amount of top cyclists with asthma.

Didn't Bradley Wiggins have asthma too?

I would have thought the one sport where asthma would be a huge disadvantage would be cycling.

So as you say fair play to those who can overcome such obstacles.
Report morpteh mackem December 13, 2017 8:33 AM GMT
just thinking that maeluk ,all seem to have asthma.
Report northanlite December 13, 2017 8:40 AM GMT
if you went up some of those mountains on a bike you would wheeze a bit too
Report morpteh mackem December 13, 2017 8:45 AM GMT
id stop to chunder a few times
Report 1st time poster December 13, 2017 10:53 AM GMT
cant get a job at sky without it, compulsory aint it
Report geoff m December 13, 2017 11:51 AM GMT
amazing how the asthmatics made it thro junior to senior ranks.
Cant remember any asthmatics @ school shining in football/athletics/swimming . As far as i recall they couldnt even make the team.
But to be an asthmatic seems to aid performance in this modern era nor hinder it.
Wonder what the stats are with regards to asthmatics in the peleton v general joe public.
Report morpteh mackem December 13, 2017 12:48 PM GMT
they were always last in cross country at school. safely lay them at 999-1
Report lovegod December 13, 2017 12:49 PM GMT
First year at secondary school, one guy didn't turn up till Christmas because of his asthma.
Report geoff m December 13, 2017 12:51 PM GMT
Lovegod altitude training in Colombia (nap)
Report lovegod December 13, 2017 12:53 PM GMT
Hmm never thought of that haha.
Report sixtwosix December 13, 2017 1:06 PM GMT
My wife is asthmatic and gets miles behind when we go hill cycling , going to tell her to she should be ashamed.

Yet again the media go into defensive mode for a so called British athlete .
Report Kriskin December 13, 2017 1:11 PM GMT
This is not the first scandal to hit Team Sky
Report donny osmond December 13, 2017 1:25 PM GMT
asthma probably made them thin and weak at school so no footy , rugby etc

go off cycling, and with no body weight , due to illness, they find they are good at something...


who knows ???
Report Petraco December 13, 2017 1:55 PM GMT

Dec 13, 2017 -- 1:25PM, donny osmond wrote:


asthma probably made them thin and weak at school so no footy , rugby etcgo off cycling, and with no body weight , due to illness, they find they are good at something...who knows ???


Ever the optimist... Laugh

Report morpteh mackem December 13, 2017 1:57 PM GMT
he is now kenyan
Report 1st time poster December 13, 2017 2:15 PM GMT
how much do sky pay their patsies, sorry doctors, LaughLaugh
Report Injera December 13, 2017 2:24 PM GMT
Imagine what 'Our' Chris could have achieved if he'd been fit & healthy.

Re Wiggins' Asthma: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/sep/30/bradley-wiggins-full-story-asthma-allergies-tues

Wiggins told the Guardian that he began suffering from asthma at races at the age of 15, and that he first noticed the effects of pollen allergies during the 2003 Giro d’Italia, his first major stage race. He described, “a noticeable difference to performance … When I had a severe attack, the day after I was wiped out.”

Asked to describe his symptoms, he stated: “Uncontrollable sneezing, runny nose, watery eyes, the urge to rub my eyes constantly, and in doing that the eyes becoming bloodshot … extreme. My breathing became restricted, like breathing through a straw at times.”

He added that he had kept the condition under control using over the counter medicines: “Continual medication … two Clarityns per day, one in the morning, one at night, nasal sprays, inhalers – two in the morning, two at night, eye drops as and when. I was on the maximum for over the counter products.”

He described a mountain stage in the 2010 Tour de France, where he finished 23rd while “sneezing my head off, blowing snot out of my nose, unable to breathe”.
Report bix December 13, 2017 4:37 PM GMT
With many athletes it is the exercise itself which induces the asthma. A recent survey showed 70% of top UK swimmers suffered from exercise induced asthma. Paula Radcliffe and Paul Scholes were other well known sufferers.
Report donny osmond December 13, 2017 4:41 PM GMT
theres lots of stuff that slips out when they speak.....


only take drugs up to legal limit.......wtf?

testosterone respondent......yeah!!!

legal injections only.....Wink
Report donny osmond December 13, 2017 4:43 PM GMT
uncastrated wild boar meat......!

heavy session with the mrs......!

contaminated legal supplement......!
Report donny osmond December 13, 2017 4:44 PM GMT
ginseng tea....!
Report SPOT THE DOG December 13, 2017 6:53 PM GMT
I have just retired, i was thinking about getting the old bike out.
No chance now, i might end up with Asthma
Report maleuk01. December 13, 2017 10:27 PM GMT
I also never heard anything about his asthma when winning all those tours de france

why has it only come out now?

or is that being cynical?
Report Hamsterdam December 13, 2017 11:12 PM GMT
It's been old news for a while asthmatics make good athletes because of the medication they take. Sir Mo another well known asthmatic. You can't get to the top in these endurance events without having asthma/asthma meds.

It's a scandal, I bet there are plenty of footballers with it too, especially those who cover a lot of ground.
Report lybertyne December 13, 2017 11:16 PM GMT
When I was youngster loads of kids seemed to have asthma.  It was almost fashionable.  Now as an adult I can't recall the last time I saw someone draw on their inhaler.
Report lybertyne December 13, 2017 11:18 PM GMT
Perhaps they all either died or took up professional cycling.
Report wit-ham December 13, 2017 11:39 PM GMT
Now come on lads and lasses we all know that the most
succsessful sportsman all suffer from something or another that requires
the use of a doctors cert.Whereas us normal healthy people who
suffer no illness whatso ever just cannot cut the mustard
Report donny osmond December 13, 2017 11:50 PM GMT
some cycling stages are 5-6 hours long

i never see him puffing on his inhaler during the race???

so if its taken 5-6 hours before urine test then it must have been quite high at race start

or does he go behind a hedge to have a quick draw ?
Report mecca December 14, 2017 2:05 AM GMT
It's a sinus Brits need a bit of help with our sporting achievements
Report sixtwosix December 14, 2017 10:01 AM GMT
Legacy will not be tainted...... not for you to say , doesn't work like that !
Report 1st time poster December 14, 2017 12:03 PM GMT
his excuse seems to be he did nothing wrong, which doesn't mean team sky dr,s didn't up the dosage
Report TELL DEL December 14, 2017 1:20 PM GMT
"Wiggins told the Guardian that he began suffering from asthma at races at the age of 15"

Bit strange he never mentioned it at all in his book.

VERY sceptical about this with Froome and Wiggins !
Report Injera December 14, 2017 4:03 PM GMT
lybertyne

Perhaps they all either died or took up professional cycling.

Laugh
Report john92 December 15, 2017 6:35 PM GMT
Wiggo's wife called Froome a 'slithering reptile' Laugh

mmmeeeeeooooooowwwww
Report xmoneyx December 15, 2017 8:37 PM GMT
armstrong 2 Excited
Report bix December 15, 2017 11:03 PM GMT
It's a scandal, I bet there are plenty of footballers with it too, especially those who cover a lot of ground.

Of course but football is better at covering it up. Why kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.
Report kincsem December 15, 2017 11:25 PM GMT
They have wonderful team doctors to monitor the asthma.
Report sofiakenny December 15, 2017 11:43 PM GMT
Olympic team had 22 times the national average of asthmatics good old honest uk....walofs
Report sofiakenny December 15, 2017 11:45 PM GMT
pauline rattfish..clean?? yeah right..utter nonsense.
Report bix December 16, 2017 2:16 PM GMT
Why do the english always underachieve in Euros/WC if they're doping?

Have a look at Arsene Wenger's views on football and doping. Also look at Operation Puerto which resulted in blood bags from over 200 athletes being seized from a Spanish clinic. Dr Fuentes admitted that athletes from football, tennis, cycling, athletics and boxing were involved but only cyclists have been named. Dr Fuentes admits that famous names are involved and that he has helped one well known team prepare for the Champions League. French newspaper Le Monde claims to have seen documents showing Dr Fuentes' "help" for Barcelona and Real Madrid.
10 years after the original scandal blew up a Spanish judge ordered the blood bags to be destroyed so we will never know for sure to whom the blood belonged. Unless of course DR Fuentes plays his ace and writes a book disclosing all.
Report A_T December 16, 2017 2:55 PM GMT
perhaps the biggest scandal in sport is the use of TUEs

remember when Neymar came to Barcelona from Brazil they immediately declared him anaemic and had to boost his red blood cell count. As if they don't have doctors in Brazil.

Brailsford and SKY have clearly perfect their "training strategies"

noone really cares though everyone's making too much money - including the "see no evil" media
Report bix December 16, 2017 7:28 PM GMT
Good post A_T.
From the media you would think that it was only cycling and athletics that had a drug/TUE problem. Both these sports probably test more than any of the others and acknowledge the problem. You'd have to be totally naive to believe that with the enormous amounts of money to be earned and generated in football no teams or players would look for a little chemical assistance.
Quite strange as well that the "see no evil media" have not cottoned on to the fact that almost half of those who have been suspended by UKAD are from one sport namely rugby.
In the USA drug abuse is a huge problem in American Football but here despite the obvious evidence they seem to keep it under the radar.
Report A_T December 16, 2017 7:58 PM GMT
Rugby Union is unrecognisable from the sport 25 years ago. The backs are now built like the old wing-forwards with the added ability to run like olympic sprinters. The likes of Phillipe Sella, JPR Williams, Barry John wouldn't have a hope in today's game. No doubt it's all down to modern training techniques.
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