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Injera
28 Nov 17 17:05
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Not according to the Girl Guides.

https://www.c4m.org.uk/girl-guides-share-showers-men/

Girlguiding UK will allow biological males to share showers, toilets, changing rooms and overnight accommodation with its female members as a result of its transgender policy.

The age groups within the movement suggest that a 25-year-old man could share facilities with girls as young as 15.

Leaders of guiding groups have also been advised not to warn parents when their daughter will be asked to share facilities with boys or men.

Women, and men who identify as women, are allowed to join Girlguiding up to the age of 25. Men who say they are women are also able to become leaders of Guide groups, known as Brown Owls.

As a result, these guidelines mean that teenage girls could be put in danger by being forced to share personal facilities and accommodation with sexually mature men.

Organisations such as the Girl Guides are reacting to the guidance of senior Government figures who want to use children in their campaign to promote acceptance of transgender lifestyles.

Prime Minister Theresa May has committed the Government to allowing people to change gender without a medical reason, removing protections against those transitioning in bad faith.

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By:
Crisp77
When: 28 Nov 17 18:28
No warning about the fact that 15-year-old boys could be sharing showers with sexually mature 25-year-old women.
By:
blackbarn
When: 28 Nov 17 18:32
Anyone ever been camping on a French campsite recently?   Not much segregation there.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 28 Nov 17 18:50
I'd have thought most young girls would be too scared to want to get in a shower or tent with an older man.
Or definitely do everything in groups to stay safe.
Is there really actual danger? Are any men likely to pretend to be women or transgender to try to take advantage of this plan?
It's not like loads of men who aren't girl guides are being invited, is it?
There aren't very many men who are girl guides, are there?

I'd say it makes for more of a 'good' story or at least headline.
By:
alun2005
When: 28 Nov 17 19:06
Was there a great demand then amongst the rank and file girls and women members of the Guiding Movement, to be allowed to share their toilets, showers, changing rooms, sleeping areas etc with mature men pretending to be women or girls?
By:
blackbarn
When: 28 Nov 17 19:13
Alun possibly not, but remember the source of Injera's information (the link above) may not be an entirely accurate and balanced source regarding this subject.
By:
dave1357
When: 28 Nov 17 19:22
The Coalition for Marriage, often abbreviated to C4M, is a Christian campaign group in the United Kingdom that opposes same-sex marriage.
By:
Injera
When: 28 Nov 17 19:51
Oh ffs dave - are you defending this???

Why not have the balls to contact the girl guides and ask them to verify.

Quote their response here.
By:
blackbarn
When: 28 Nov 17 19:59
Here is a link to the Telegraph on the subject.  It gives history, background and a bit of balance, and quotes the GG Association as well. Hope this helps.  It my not suit your agenda like the other one, but perhaps that's why you chose that one.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/11/26/guides-allows-boys-identify-female-shower-girls/
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dave1357
When: 28 Nov 17 20:29
Injera what have you got against same sex marriage?  Are you a christian?  Why are you frequenting a website specifically for christians against gay marriage?  Is there an Islam against gay marriage site?  Do you go there?
By:
pxb
When: 28 Nov 17 20:51
Another organization that will disappear down the PC plughole. Enrollment is already in dramatic decline.
By:
Injera
When: 28 Nov 17 20:57
C4M are pro marriage between a man and a woman.

I'm against the redefinition of marriage. This redefinition will soon demand polygamy to appease Muslims and bisexuals. Neither am I keen on incestual marriage which I assume you approve of (after all, love trumps hate etc...)
By:
dave1357
When: 28 Nov 17 21:14
Don't you presume to assume what I approve of.  Interesting that you missed Mormons of your polygamist hate list.
By:
dave1357
When: 28 Nov 17 21:19
btw thought you would be fine with incest, isn't there loads of examples in the "good book".  I prefer science myself which would strive to prevent incestuous unions for health reasons.
By:
moisok
When: 28 Nov 17 22:14
It is a charter for people with strange motives.  Must not use the slang word or I will get banned again.  Of course there is an agenda to undermine the majority for the sake of a tiny few. Led from the guardian's pages  - CHARGE!!!!!!
By:
lybertyne
When: 28 Nov 17 22:50
And as per usual absolutely nothing for those who identify as unicorns.  Will they be provided with stable accommodation and a little straw?  Maybe even a salt-lick?  Will they hell.
By:
Get me a drink
When: 29 Nov 17 08:33
Men trying to pose as transgender for sexual reasons will stick out like a sore thumb and be given a wide birth, so it'll all be fine.
By:
pxb
When: 29 Nov 17 08:47
The problem will be post puberty males with 'issues' in close proximity to younger females. Whatever they may 'think', their hormones will say otherwise.
By:
Lady Faye Verrit
When: 29 Nov 17 08:52
At least, the girls will have somewhere to hang their towels.....Wink
By:
Ken Masters
When: 29 Nov 17 10:18
Haven't got time to read the whole thread, or in fact any of the posts, but the OP should really consult a solicitor rather than relying on the counsel of the good burghers of Chit Chat.
By:
curious-cat
When: 30 Nov 17 00:53
Men trying to pose as transgender for sexual reasons will stick out like a sore thumb .... At least, the girls will have somewhere to hang their towels..... Laugh
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