Jon Venables

Sickening, gallows too good for him.

'The killer's new identity is protected by a lifelong anonymity order and has been changed four times since his release in 2001, costing taxpayers £250,000 each time, and around £5million in total has been spent trying to rehabilitate him.'



Must be cheaper to keep em in jail than give em everything and pay for constant monitoring.

Cheaper to hire a "professional" to arrange for an unfortunate accident for this drain on resources!

They put the public in danger by having him live around people who are unaware. He has no right to a place in society at any price.

his parole officer must be a top notch bull****

Paying these people to plant dangerous individuals in our midst incognito 

The answer is not to spend a single penny of our money protecting the identity of this individual. Whatever the consequences of that is his own fault.

Shirley he is on the Register ??   

Was listening to the Radio Earlier was a mention that the Bulger murder was not far off a sex murder

Th cxnt actually tells people who he is , No doubt gets pished off somewhere and fancies a move

Hard to believe he has not been Murdered .

@casemoney -- if it was "not far off a sex murder" then that means the 9-year-old murderers were driven by sex -- which in another context sounds like an apologia for paedophilia.

This isn't something I've followed closely but imo, this individual should now never be released.

I did read that he has told people that he is a convicted murderer. Whether he has revealed his true identity, I don't know.

I also read that the other killer has been in a relationship for many years with a man who is aware that he is Robert Thompson.

Unbelievable if true. If he ever finds out, no doubt the damage it does to him will be deemed acceptable by those who have colluded in keeping the truth from him.

Still brings a tear to my eye whenever anything about this story is in the news.

'Society did right by James Bulger’s killers'

Guess which rag printed this

This COUNTRY, is getting more and more sickening, in time, the only thing that will work, is capital punishment, as much as the snowflakes will scream and shout about rehabilitation, in some cases, like this, it will never work, they can talk about miscarriages of justice, but in those days we never had DNA. And Think of how many people will think twice before going out with a gun or pulling a knife on another person if they think that they may face the death penalty, if they're caught. Many more innocent lives have been lost since the death penalty was abolished, than innocent people being convicted and sentenced to death.

Both of them should have been terminated

Legally or otherwise


Very surprised it's not happened.

You're surprised that a civilised country doesn't execute 10 year old boys? 

bullet is cheap enough

DAM if in certain Cases that it is 110 % clear that they are Guilty they should be vaporized
there would be no problem doing it ,Save all this fckin about with hanging disposing of the carcus etc  ,Certain human beings have no right to live any longer ,Remove them ,They are costing each and everyone of us Money to keep , Some poor fcker Loses his Job is treated worse than half
the scum that the Civ Lib mob stick up for .... The fckers are housed and Fed they have no worries .... REMOVE THEM ...

The cost of the above casemoney would pale in comparison to the cost of creating a method of vaporising the 0.000001% of people for whom it would be clear are 110% guilty and who would be given a sentence of the death penalty.

The killers of Lee Rigby are a perfect example.
Both constantly at odds with the prison authorities with one taking court action for 'personal injuries' recently.
Costing us a fortune and both no loss to society.
These 2 should have been hanged.

Hate to be pedantic Shrewd but that %age you quote amounts to a fraction of 1 person being guilty whilst I've quoted 2 that I doubt anyone would argue with.

It's not really a perfect example though on the basis of why capital punishment was brought up by dambusters. Yes there is no doubt they are guilty but they aren't the sort of people who would think twice about killing someone because they may get the death penalty and I can't imagine anything they would like more at the moment than to be martyred by hanging and for pictures of them being hanged to be used as propaganda for the type of folk who would consider them as martyrs.

Well ,I can only say Cremate them Alive, I for one would have no problem pushing the Button on the Oven , Vaporizing was possibly too kind ..

Aka I was referring to the percentage of the guilty population if that is what you are referring to.

I am not putting forward a Deterrent ,REMOVE THEM they have no place on this Earth..

who is them?

Well if that was your intention then the %age is even more out.
As regards pictures? Why would tis happen? Didn't happen when we last used capital punishment.
In respect of not deterring this type of crime I think you are wrong in that bodies were traditionally buried in unmarked graves which would go against their religion.

As for all this Serial Killer shyte on Tv and Books Etc , these are nonsensical Humans I don't want to know about their fathers mothers interfering with them , School days, or if they killed animals and started fires as children ,Remove them
ASAP ,we have all these civ lib studies etc ,how many Serial Killings have been stopped because of them ? My answer would be ZERO ..

Meant to add and it's in the name of their religion they commit this type of crime.
They believe in the afterlife and the method of burial is important to this.

THEM  Shrewd are People Such as Child Killers ,Terrorists ,Serial Murderers,People who murder elderly people ,ALL Nonse cases , you can do More time for robbing a bank than the  Murder of a Child ..

How is it even more out? What percentage of a guilty population do you think would fit the criteria of 110% guilty and fitting the criteria of deserving to be vapourised (presumably we are talking about at the very least those who have received life sentences and not just 110% guilty of shop lifting)?

Pictures because if you are going to choose a medieval method of hanging as opposed to lethal injection to save money then don't pretend that pictures won't get leaked when 60 years have passed and a camera is now the size of a pin instead of a postbox.

What's the difference in being buried if they die after being hung in custody or if they have died of old age in custody?

THEM  Shrewd are People Such as Child Killers ,Terrorists ,Serial Murderers,People who murder elderly people ,ALL Nonse cases , you can do More time for robbing a bank than the  Murder of a Child ..

Surely no one wants to see Rolf hang?

BTW if not the death penalty then life should mean life with no chance of release.

Life does mean life it just means a life sentence as oppose to life behind bars.

In the case of death whilst in prison then the body is handed over to the family for burial.

Tell that to Brady.

Wheres the connection between Brady and the killers of Lee Rigby?
They killed for their religion and need a proper muslim funeral to get to their heaven.

There is another 2 who should have hanged, Brady and Hindley.
Plus Ian Huntley (BTW Maxine Carr only served 3 years for her part in the murder of the two young girls).

Anyways Shrewd this boils down to some of us wanting to rid society of it's worst whilst you want to cuddle them and release them so that they can do more damage.

There is no connection. The point is you said that the remains are handed over to the family if they die in custody. With Brady that was clearly not the case as any decision as to his burial was taken out of the hands of his family or his executor.  So if the Rigby killers die in custody there is nothing to say their remains will be handed to the family.

If anything Brady and Hindley does show that life often means life in these cases. Although fair enough if you've managed to find 4 people in 50 years that deserve to have been executed.

Anyways Shrewd this boils down to some of us wanting to rid society of it's worst whilst you want to cuddle them and release them so that they can do more damage.

Nice of you to admit defeat Aka . When have I ever said I want to cuddle and release people? I'm just capable of looking at these things objectively without foaming at the mouth at some request for revenge and appreciate that hanging people in the street isn't going to solve all the problems.

thought u talkin to yerself 4 abit ! use cp

Italics copy and paste don't seem to work on here anymore on my browser.

or a scottish accent Miss Brody

The barristers who defend these parasites are no better, they do it for money, and if they get them off, there cred goes up and so does their fees,

Yeah it would be a lot better if we had 10 year olds acting for themselves in court.

Maxine Carr lied to the police to support her partner's alibi. She played no part in the murders. 3 years was harsh enough. Still, hang the ginner.

They'd better hurry up and vapourise Michael Stone for the Lin and Megan Russell murders. He's confessed and been found guilty at trial and on appeal.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-42144445

I heard this on the news tonight.
An inmate saying that Levi Bellfield confessed to the murders and told him things that turned out had never been made known at the trial.
Bellfield has denied making the confession. Hardly conclusive proof of the innocence of Michael Stone.
The police involved in the original trial have said they have no plans to reopen the case.

Think Stone is Innocent have said so since his Conviction 

A very strange and Dreadful case you have more chance of winning the Mega Millions than have a Ramdom maniac attacking them

On that day on a first encounter ..

I believe who ever Killed them seen them taking the route before ,Any Proof that Bellend was working or in the area would make him a

heavy Favourite ,but is there any ?

Heroine Addicts looking for Fixes do not hang around in Country Fields there was Problems even Linking Stone to a car that

day ,Stone is a Nutter but he has no previous for attacking women or Children ..

I never read much of the original case and was making the point that you couldn't find him innocent on the word of a criminal who could be in cahoots with the real killer who at this time is considered to be Stone.
That was before I read up on the original trial and see that Stone was convicted mainly on a confession made to another inmate that he denies making.
I also think that, knowing the history of the two, that it is more likely to be Bellfield if one of them is indeed the killer.
If he is innocent, and it's kind of hard to be convinced he is guilty, how hard must this be for him to take.
All those years gone. 

Twenty-five years since James was murdered.

Channel 4 tonight: "The Bulger Killers: Was Justice Done?"

I don't think justice was done.
They should have served a sentence when they became adults.

There are Children who have Advanced Intelligence what are called Gifted Children  they end up in universities etc

So imo there are Children who are Evil beyond their Years as in this Case , they knew exactly what they were doing

to the extent of leaving him on the track in the hope a train running him over would cover their Actions ...

Sadly these two are what I would call Wrong Uns ..... Throw the Keys away .

3 1/2 years for the Wrong Un on this Occasion,  deemed a danger to Children ,if that is the case how can he ever be released again  No one Knows who he is would you like the Scum in a Road where your Children or grand children Live , be out in 2 on the prowl Again ,how much more public money is to be used protecting this piece of Trash ?

Serial Offender has been Given Chances "anonymity"  Should be lifted..

not sure what more can be done to attempt to rehabilitate him

they have tried , and failed.

3 more years, or perhaps less, perhaps more

when he is released, more folk will be in danger, and will not be told of it.

no doubt it will be left to journalists to keep an eye on him

If he serves the full term, the Parole Board will still have to assess his suitability for release.  They have got it wrong twice.

He has had his chances. Imo, he should now never be released.

Case - I get why they have been given anonymity. If their identities were revealed, they would need 24-hour police protection.

It seems odd that they were named as 11-year-old boys and then given lifelong anonymity on release as men.

To me, a compromise would be to name Venables as a paedophile but under his current identity.  I can't see why this could not be done.

It's extremely rare for offenders to be given new identities and lifelong anonymity. I believe there are only four individuals who have been given this treatment: Venables, Thompson, Maxine Carr and Mary Bell.



This link is old news but something I only became aware of this week.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4048957.stm

I didn't know that either Nick.
Seeing how much the authorities are doing to protect this pair must be hard for her to deal with.