Argentine submarine

didn't even know they had submarines

They acquired a lot of u-boats cheap after WW2 (through connections)

The report says it's the newest of Argentinas submarines.
Later on it says it was built in Germany in 1989.
The report also says it surfaced to report a breakdown.
Cannot be any hope surely after 5/6 days. Poor souls indeed Trilby.

Is ufcdan about?  He'll be able to relate directly to this awful situation.  Just imagine what these guys are going through RIGHT THIS VERY SECOND if they're still alive.

May God be with them.

I hope nobody had beans for lunch.

Infantile and in appalling taste.  I hope you are proud of yourself

Sad news indeed. Like xmoneyx I didn't know they had any submarines. Just googled it. It's a diesel boat which means it needs to surface for the batteries to be charged. So after five days I doubt they can still generate oxygen. With a crew of only 44 if they can remain calm hopefully they can not use up to much air. If found the Yanks can rescue them. I don't know if it's on old boat but it should have two escape hatches, one either side of the boat so depending on which side it comes to rest one will be accessible. An American DSRV (Deep submergence revue vehicle) could reach them and get them out as all hatches were made a standard size for these reason which made the loss of the crew on the Kursk all the sadder, the Yanks could of got them out but the Russians preferred that they died rather than let the Yanks gather intelligence from the boat. The other thing to take into consideration is how deep is the ocean floor ? Boats have what is called a crush depth were the sea pressure becomes to much for the ships hull causing it to implode. Obviously if this happened thankfully the crews end would be instantaneous. Onto the running out of oxygen they will fall asleep and pass away. But until I hear otherwise I shall hope they are rescued. While many years ago they were our enemy sailors and especially submariners will be holding them in their thoughts and prayers.

Thousand feet this one dan ,very little hope left  after this amount of time , basically been in their own tomb for a week ,does not bear thinking about ,and Lybertyne you seem a sensitive type of Chap YSC ...

Shame if it was a few hundred feet they could escape through the escape hatch but given the weather and the cold they wouldn't last long. It was said if we ever had to escape like that the corpsman would have to stick a needle in our ear to puncture the eardrum..............fxxk that I think I'd of taken my chances on the bottom plus I've never been a good swimmer. Never saw the need going on a boat that was designed to sink !

incredible no distress beacon signal

even a yacht has one

Thank Dan, very intersting - esp re DSRVs.

Apparently there's a female on board - isn't that supposed to be bad luck amongst submariners?

No, it is unlucky for all sailors.

Thanks Mo.  Reports suggesting the boat had a massive explosion on board.  At least death would have been fairly instant for them, I guess.  RIP

I wonder if they set off a torpedo to get it over and done with ! Very sad RIP

Could be, after they lost the batteries & engines and started sinking in deep water?  Could they have accidently set a torp of whilst loading a tube?  I think I saw somewhere this morning there are unmanned submersibles looking for her.

Awful for the poor families

Truly dreadful to think of the trauma they will have suffered!

I think the reality will be that, when they came to terms that it was going to be all over for them, the only suffering
would be the mental torment, in the knowledge that they would never see their family, and friends again!

They must have always shared a bond with their crew mates, and the stronger ones among them will have kept things as calm as possible!

In the end, and not considering the violence of the suggested explosion, they would simply have become weaker, and weaker, and simply fallen asleep
(at least that is what I hope would have happened)!

A pity that their people can't see the compassion for them, from the ordinary British public!

I think they will know that Lady Fay.
Getting help from various countries to aid the search as well.


From a recent report.
On Saturday Russia joined the operation, deploying one of its largest aircraft on Friday night with specialist equipment on board.
Its unmanned submersible, known as the Pantera Plus, can conduct sonar scans up to a depth of 1,000m (3,281ft).

Russia also has a scientific exploration ship on the way from West Africa.
The US Navy also deployed unmanned "mini-sub" vehicles to join the search.
The UK, Brazil, Chile, Norway, Germany, Canada, France, Peru, Colombia and Uruguay are also helping to try to locate the vessel.

Search abandoned :(

Argentina ends missing submarine rescue mission

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-42187139

Incredible in this day and age that they cant track these vessels

Oh come on, think about what you just said for a few minutes.

Incredible in this day and age that they cant track these vessels


It's the whole point G Hall "Run silent, run deep" once underway you don't want to be found. Sad news regarding the crew as an ex submariner my thoughts are with their family and friends

A missing submarine has been found deep in the Atlantic a year after it disappeared with 44 crewmen aboard.

The ARA San Juan was found more than 2,600 feet deep in waters off the Valdes Peninsula in Argentine Patagonia, the Argentinian navy said.

In a statement, it said a “positive identification” had been made by a remote-operated submersible from the American ship Ocean Infinity, which was hired in the latest search for the missing vessel.

The San Juan was returning to its base in the coastal city of Mar del Plata when contact was lost.

Argentina gave up hope of finding survivors after a search helped by 18 countries, but the navy has continued searching for the vessel.

A couple of right sick posts on this thread.

Just shows what you're dealing with on here with some posters, absolute weirdos.

These 18 countries they asked to help, was Britain one of them ?

They seem to have trouble tracking missing passenger airliners though.

I can't imagine how these poor sailors suttered. Utterly horrendous

Would it not be possible to incorporate an escape module in submarines? Something large enough for perhaps two people to resurface and raise the alarm?

Just a thought.

scandanavian_haven
These 18 countries they asked to help, was Britain one of them ?

Yes according to the report I quoted from. Why did you ask that?

Yes a strange question to Ask hardly matters who offered to Help , Shaven looking for some Kind of anti Brit Angle as per.

er, I would have thought it was obvious, I wanted to know if the Argies would let their pride get in the way of something so important as life and death.

now get back in your box casemoney

No you Didn't ur Spouting shyte as Usual  .. 44 men Dead , I would imagine any help would have been welcomed if it could have saved them ....

So you're even starting an argument off of the back of a simple question, you're a very angry man casemoney and I suggest you get out more and stop being so angry lol.

"Would it not be possible to incorporate an escape module in submarines? Something large enough for perhaps two people to resurface and raise the alarm?"
They do AFAIK have means of escape that are relatively simple but depth is a huge issue (low to high pressure quickly).

The simplest way to do it is to have buoys they can eject that will surface fast, then start broadcasting. Remember position as soon as possible so drift isn't an issue, allow a final message to be entered pre release. Say "GPS coordinates at release were : X, Y. Extra information at release is: Major leak aft torpedo room, power lost, settling to bottom, 46 still alive" or whatever.

Not sure why they don't haev such a thing. Give me a budget, I'll make it.

Exactly same as this bl00dy lost airplane in the far east. Have one built into any plane that goes into the sea that is auto released. We'd likely have known where it went down 1 hour later.

This is 2018, the technology to do this cheaply has been around for a couple decades.