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Not exactly the best way to portray those heaters now is it! a defo no sale imo...
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Electricity costs about 5 times mains gas per kWh (unit of energy).
I don't know how delivered LPG compares but surely not 5 times mains gas? |
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You could always buy a windmill for your roof
![]() Ask your LPG supplier what the calorific value is per litre. If they quote in megajoules the conversion rate is 3.6 per kWh. |
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Are they free to a good ohm?
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WATT?????
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That suggestion was met with some powerful resistance
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Do you own or rent?
Are you billed directly for the LPG? Are you billed through a management company? Do you know how much per litre you are paying? |
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OP's sums don't seem correct ,0.84p per KWh ? The average cost is about 17p ish although it's not easy to work out with the standing charges and tariffs that charge first so many units at one price thbut 250 units or 250 KWh are never the price mentioned .The reasoning that gas is 5 times the cost of electricity is incorrect as well ,electric oil heaters are close to 100 percent efficient ,gas boilers can never be close to that . The houses insulation is also important ,also where boiler is situated ,pipe runs and insulation ,if the underfloor area is draughty and pipe runs long the overall efficiency will be poor but the biggest single factor not mentioned is outside temp ,windchill and of course inside stat temp setting . Too many variables I'm play to make a call .
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Like bnb said a kw is around 17p and would cheaper overnight on the correct tariff, also 6 heaters is way too many unless you need to heat bedrooms and that would only be at night.
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Just to make everyone jealous, as I have said before the only time I switch my electric fan heater on is in the depths of winter. I think last winter I used about a couple of hours of electric fan heating. A grand sum of about 34p for the year! I do have 'proper' central heating but I never now switch it on.
The reason why is because I live in a modern block built just over three years ago and equipped with all the new fangled insulation I expect. It helps that I am on the second floor surrounded by eight flats, so their central heating keeps me warm! Indeed, apart from winter, I have to have my windows open continuously because it is so warm, especially at night. |
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Lady Faye Verrit flex your muscles, tell them where to go.
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Do you keep every room warm? I only put heating on for the first time this winter today!
I wear a jumper, I don't keep unoccupied rooms warmer than they need to be (why would you), keep windows shut in winter, thick curtains, heating bills aren't bad. It doesn't really matter if an electric heater has oil in it or not it's going to give out the same amount of heat, the only benefit really is evening out the output in a small room OR if the oil has enough heat storage (I quite doubt this) to take heat overnight on an economy power tariff and give it out during the day. Six of them! It sounds like you really are keeping your entire house warm on electric, that's always going to be the most expensive way, next to burning banknotes, might as well follow a moneytree tip! (is he still around, not seen him for ages) |
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I have moved around a great deal and I have usually when I have been on my own I have not bothered with the central heating. I find it inflexible, so I use a cheap electric heater, normally about £25. I switch it on when I get home and then it heats up the living room while I start cooking etc. Then it keeps it at the temperature you want all night. I don't bother heating the bedroom unless it is really, really cold. I think the last time I did this the bill for all year including electric for cooking etc came to £12 a week. When you consider how much you have to pay just to insure your gas boiler for repairs etc and the cost of the boiler etc, it can be a very cheap option, maybe if your central heating isn't working.
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buy a wooly jumper and a few more pairs of socks imo
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Is there a "fragrant" smell coming from your next door neighbour, lights on all hours, and a strange electric cable running out your window? :)
What does your power meter do when everything is switched off? |
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Another tip, is your hot water REALLY hot? If you've an immersion heater and either it's set too high, or the thermostat is gone, it could be sitting burning virtually 3kw 24/7.
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Or even not on a timer, or timer is set to too many hours or switched to manual? An immersion heater can burn through the leccy fast, had issues myself.
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Turn everything off until meter no longer moves, then turn things on to see what is using the electricity. It should be obvious.
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Under sink non vented on demand water heaters are becoming popular ,a much better option than keeping 150/200 litre water tank hot ,even if heat losses are offset against heating bills in winter. ,similar to old style light bulbs helping with heating ,them old 150 light bulbs prob kept many a pensioner alive in the winter ,especially a partial sighted one
but at the money an undersink on demand is way to go ,more efficient than boiling kettle . |
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Ok, a bit of an update....
0.84p per Kwh is a figure as quoted on several internet sites. Yesterday I managed to speak to n-power, and I was told that the typical consumption of these rads is 0.34p per hour. So, considering I have six it soon multiplies to long money! I own the apartment, which is self contained, with private entry, and is approx 40% of the lower ground floor of 'The Hall', and with cellars to the remainder. It is "Regency" and part of a large country estate, and plus six substantial three storey properties in 'The Mews'. There is bulk LPG storage in the grounds of 'The Hall', which also serves my place, and three of the mews houses, with the remainder being on oil. My boiler is a 'Combi' and is in my garage, and all pipework is well insulated. I have only one outside wall, which is circa 60 cms thick, and four large, double glazed windows 165 x 110 cms. My bath is enormous but I'm not one for lying in the bath, so shower most of the time. I admit to liking to be comfortable, and usually wear just shorts and a T shirt in the house. Central heating isn't efficient, heating just parts of the house, as it has to work harder, because heat is lost to the unheated rooms! Ok, I have some set to a slightly lower temperature, as a token. So that's me!! ![]() |
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Is it not possible to be comfortable in a pullover?
also when I last lived in a flat I had been renting for less than a year, can't remember exactly , when I thought to myself These bills are too high . the meters of all flats were housed in an outbuilding so I got a key and investigated . The serial number on my bills were the serial number to a different flats meter . phoned the gas company and I didn't have to pay anything for about a year if I recall as had been paying for someone else's flat But then again how long had this been going on for with previous tenants , possibly years ? |
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Here's a thought. How about air conditioning with a heat pump? Expensive and messy to install, and you get potentially unsightly pipework and outdoor units, but you get much more heat per kW consumed than electrical resistance heating. I believe by a factor of 3 or more?
With the added bonus of you get cooling on hot summer days/nights. |
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Lady,
You didn't say whether you knew how much you were paying (via the common LPG arrangement) per litre for your gas. I guess there is a residents association or management company That is pretty fundamental and you should probably find out! LPG supply is like the wild west. Caveat emptor and all that. Check Money Saving Expert - Bulk LPG thread for some background info if you are bothered about how much you pay. |
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bill for all year including electric for cooking etc came to £12 a week
£600/year! Me £360/annum For electric and gas. Central heating on as much as I want. Modern efficient boiler, LED lights, good insulation and it helps to have windows facing South. Last week about 10c outside, I had the window open and was sunbathing on the Sofa. |
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Yes Jack....
41.5p per litre + vat Rip off standing charge of 12.34p per day + vat!!! I took it upon myself to get alternative quotes and three were significantly less..... Problem is that the owners of 'The Hall' have 18 months still to run on a lease contract! Calor are Prima Donnas, as their name has become a generic term, and many will say "Do you have Calor gas"? instead of LPG! |
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Think some mugs were in charge of sorting the gas out to still be under contract for 18 months at that price.
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Yes Jack....agreed!
I thought of being self sufficient, with bottles, but the price is off the scale! |