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brassneck
12 Oct 17 22:33
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The people that voted brexit voted to leave the EU,They did not vote to leave under certain conditions.But I think it is now a sort maybe the uk will leave the EU.
everyone is playing games.That is not what the people voted for.
so as far as I can see /brexit means maybe.
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Report brassneck October 12, 2017 10:45 PM BST
Perhaps the PM should be called Theresa Maybe.Grin
Report casemoney October 12, 2017 10:49 PM BST
Grin
Report northanlite October 12, 2017 10:50 PM BST
the trouble was nobody genuinely knew what it really meant. it was never made clear. The campaigners were not on the same
page (and still aren't) so how could anyone be sure
i'm sure you knew what you thought it meant but it's clear not everyone thought it meant exactly the same thing.
deciding to divorce is the easy bit compared to working out what happens after.
Report casemoney October 12, 2017 10:52 PM BST
The way its going North in a year or Two no one will give a fck either way Grin
Report bodil October 13, 2017 12:46 AM BST
The media have to fill up the roaring silence with something day after day after day ... We pay the EU about 9 billion pa, they export about 70 billion more to us than we to them pa. We have the largest/most effective intelligence services/armed forces in Europe. About 3 million of them live here, less than half that number of us live there. We have the World's major financial services centre. Fishing?  And we have a problem?

Well, yes, we do.  The EU does not do reason. Remember one of their biggest arguments for not leaving? They've made everything so bureaucratic and constrained by regulation that it would take a decade to untangle. Bollox. Nothing happens quickly in Brussels - except pay rises and expense repayments for the believers.

Expect a fairly abrupt exit but WTO tariffs are fine. They will feel more pain than us.  And Brexit isn't their no 1 problem - the euro and mass migration are potentially more damaging.
Report brassneck October 13, 2017 1:15 AM BST
The Republic of Ireland will go into meltdown when the Uk leave ,So if the republic decide to leave also Europe will break up.And the republic need the UK,so a poker game is unfolding ,And if the UK get a good deal France will pull out also.So there is a lot at stake .IF Europe give a good deal to the UK ,France will follow,and if Europe give the UK a bad deal Ireland will follow ,so I think Europe will break up.
Report akabula October 13, 2017 1:20 AM BST
No maybe about it, we are leaving.
We also knew what we were voting for.
Report brassneck October 13, 2017 1:31 AM BST
the people voted,and the government are dragging their feet,but the problem is that if the UK have a general election it will turn out to be a brexit election.(with Labor saying stay in)
And a lot of people think that what ever is decided will be put to the uk people again to vote on.(in other words big brother Germany get what they want = another vote on brexit.its a total mess up.
Report anxious October 13, 2017 1:39 AM BST
Brexit is Toast
Report akabula October 13, 2017 2:31 AM BST
You seem to blame the UK for the stalemate.
Should we just concede everything and call that progress.
We are in the process of leaving and leave we will.
I'd prefer us just to walk away but would give the EU an ultimatum and 2 months to think about it.
Report anxious October 13, 2017 8:45 AM BST
Face the reality of it we have fools doing our negotiating for us , more concerned about their own political careers.
Report cooperman October 13, 2017 10:43 AM BST
Cameron gambled on the Referendum, just as May gambled on the Election. Both were a disaster for them personally as it just highlighted how out of touch they were with the rest of the population outside Westminster. Cameron clung to power using the Lib Dems and May is following the tactic with the DUP.
You can't expect any favours from the EU gravy train, it would be like turkeys voting for Christmas.
Report casemoney October 13, 2017 7:02 PM BST
Cameron worse Gamble in History   , Think a lot voted to get him and Gideon Shifted Grin
Report Jack Hacksaw October 13, 2017 7:42 PM BST
No-one who voted Leave really knew what they were voting for.

No-one who voted Remain knew what sort of country we were going to become in the future due to EC.

People just voted on a gut feel.

The time and trouble and lengths that we need to go to to get unembroiled is symptomatic of the how much complexity and red tape there is in the EC.
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