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10 Oct 17
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BBC getting involved !
Victoria Derbyshire program.
Victoria Derbyshire program.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-41549235
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A London council is considering legal action against anti-abortion protesters accused of "harassing" women attending a clinic.
Ealing Council will decide whether to pursue a public space protection order (PSPO) to prevent disruption at Marie Stopes clinic in Mattock Lane, Ealing.
Some protesters used "deliberately disturbing images", the council said.
The Good Counsel Network, which holds daily vigils outside the centre, said it did not harass women.
A petition set up by residents' group Sister Supporter has more than 3,000 signatures objecting to the protests.
Clare McCullough, the Good Counsel Network's founder, told the BBC: "We're there to tell woman that there is an alternative to abortion.
"We may disapprove of abortion, but we don't disapprove of individuals who are in trouble. These woman are not being offered these alternatives inside Marie Stopes."
She added the group had held its vigil for 23 years "without any criminal charges".
Local pro-choice group, Sister Supporter, demanded action to stop anti-abortion protesters holding vigils six days a week outside the clinic
Local resident and Sister Supporter Anna Vegilo-White said the anti-abortion vigils went "far beyond the legal right to protest".
"While we respect the views of this minority group, we strongly object to their placement and behaviour outside clinics," she said.
Councillor Binda Rai, who is proposing the PSPO action, said many protesters used deliberately disturbing and graphic images and models - with some resembling dismembered foetuses.
"The right to protest needs to be balanced with the right of pregnant women to choose and to obtain advice and treatment in confidence and free from intimidation." she said.
Marie Stopes UK's chief nurse Sally Bassett said small groups of protesters were a common feature outside abortion clinics.
"Many carry out peaceful protests and keep their distance from the women accessing services, but even they can make what is already a difficult day much more traumatic", she said.
PSPOs, which replaced Asbos, are more commonly used to stop antisocial behaviour such as public drinking and drug-taking.
The council is due to make its decision on Tuesday evening.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-41549235
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A London council is considering legal action against anti-abortion protesters accused of "harassing" women attending a clinic.
Ealing Council will decide whether to pursue a public space protection order (PSPO) to prevent disruption at Marie Stopes clinic in Mattock Lane, Ealing.
Some protesters used "deliberately disturbing images", the council said.
The Good Counsel Network, which holds daily vigils outside the centre, said it did not harass women.
A petition set up by residents' group Sister Supporter has more than 3,000 signatures objecting to the protests.
Clare McCullough, the Good Counsel Network's founder, told the BBC: "We're there to tell woman that there is an alternative to abortion.
"We may disapprove of abortion, but we don't disapprove of individuals who are in trouble. These woman are not being offered these alternatives inside Marie Stopes."
She added the group had held its vigil for 23 years "without any criminal charges".
Local pro-choice group, Sister Supporter, demanded action to stop anti-abortion protesters holding vigils six days a week outside the clinic
Local resident and Sister Supporter Anna Vegilo-White said the anti-abortion vigils went "far beyond the legal right to protest".
"While we respect the views of this minority group, we strongly object to their placement and behaviour outside clinics," she said.
Councillor Binda Rai, who is proposing the PSPO action, said many protesters used deliberately disturbing and graphic images and models - with some resembling dismembered foetuses.
"The right to protest needs to be balanced with the right of pregnant women to choose and to obtain advice and treatment in confidence and free from intimidation." she said.
Marie Stopes UK's chief nurse Sally Bassett said small groups of protesters were a common feature outside abortion clinics.
"Many carry out peaceful protests and keep their distance from the women accessing services, but even they can make what is already a difficult day much more traumatic", she said.
PSPOs, which replaced Asbos, are more commonly used to stop antisocial behaviour such as public drinking and drug-taking.
The council is due to make its decision on Tuesday evening.
These protesters are within 10 mins walk from me.
Am watching Victoria Derbyshire on delay
Cancel making a decision tonight about to whether to put an exclusion Area around clinic for protesters.
Am watching Victoria Derbyshire on delay
Cancel making a decision tonight about to whether to put an exclusion Area around clinic for protesters.
Councillor Binda Rai, who is proposing the PSPO action, said many protesters used deliberately disturbing and graphic images and models - with some resembling dismembered foetuses.
- Councillor, they're disturbing images because what happens to the foetus/baby is very disturbing. HTH etc.
- Councillor, they're disturbing images because what happens to the foetus/baby is very disturbing. HTH etc.
But it is a woman's right to decide what happens to her body .... It is a residential street where the people who live there have to run a gamut of very unpleasant images as do the children and their families who are going to the park which is 30 m away.
She chose to have sex didn't she? Wasn't she paying attention at sex ed class? Ahh look what can happen...a pregnancy! And what about the father's right?
When you say unpleasant images. They're unpleasant because they show a human life being torn apart. Truth hurts.
If the pro choice (yuk) lobby had any balls they would welcome the truth to be broadcast.
When you say unpleasant images. They're unpleasant because they show a human life being torn apart. Truth hurts.
If the pro choice (yuk) lobby had any balls they would welcome the truth to be broadcast.
Maybe the particular woman you are talking about had been raped ?
What then ?
What then ?
99% of abortions do NOT involve a rape. Over 90% are for 'social' reasons. That means the woman (father's opinion not taken into account) doesn't want a kid.
pretty sure the fledgling abortion industry was helped by funding from
males tidying up unwanted scandals
whatever the rights and wrongs of abortion i think you are banging the wrong drum there injera
males tidying up unwanted scandals
whatever the rights and wrongs of abortion i think you are banging the wrong drum there injera
I saw something on the BBC where an Irish woman was not allowed to abort her a baby even though it was dead in her womb.
These protestors go too far harassing people using the clinic.
Whilst the law allows abortion it's within the right of any female to have an abortion without being attacked.
Any protests should be aimed at the government to change the law.
Whilst the law allows abortion it's within the right of any female to have an abortion without being attacked.
Any protests should be aimed at the government to change the law.
The Catholic Church pushes all this anti-abortion stuff when I have been shown to be full of corruption when hiding paedophile priests.
The Catholic Church pushes all this anti-abortion stuff when they have been shown to be full of corruption when hiding paedophile priests.
Leopard you're focussing on the less than 1% of the 180 000 abortions that occur each year here.
Every foetus (baby) has a unique DNA. All of science agrees with that. That special, unique DNA will NEVER have this chance..
It's a once in an eternity chance of that lifeform from having an opportunity to breathe, smile, laugh, run, play, work, marry, swim, travel and create other lives.
donny - you may well be right sir but as my grandfather told me: if you believe in something fight to the last bullet. Then keep fighting...
Every foetus (baby) has a unique DNA. All of science agrees with that. That special, unique DNA will NEVER have this chance..
It's a once in an eternity chance of that lifeform from having an opportunity to breathe, smile, laugh, run, play, work, marry, swim, travel and create other lives.
donny - you may well be right sir but as my grandfather told me: if you believe in something fight to the last bullet. Then keep fighting...
you can fight for your anti abortion stance, thats your choice
but saying its a woman thing and using mens rights, imo, weakens your argument
your argument in the 18.25 post is as good an argument as you need.
but saying its a woman thing and using mens rights, imo, weakens your argument
your argument in the 18.25 post is as good an argument as you need.
I'm not anti abortion. I'm in support of a right to life. I disagree with current legislation that a second before 24 weeks no legal protection. A second after, murder..
I also believe a man who has conceived has a right to the outcome of that conception.
I also believe a man who has conceived has a right to the outcome of that conception.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4969666/Woman-survived-abortion-8-MONTHS-finds-birth-mother.html
Weighing just 2Ib 14oz she lay hooked up to wires and tubes in a neonatal unit on August 29, 1977.
But there was no anxious parent nearby, lovingly holding her minuscule hand, desperately willing her to live.
Because Melissa Ohden’s mother had left the hospital in Iowa, believing the toxic saline solution she'd been given over a five-day period when she was eight months pregnant had ABORTED her child.
However the procedure had failed but Melissa's mother had no idea her daughter had survived, against the odds, until 36 years later.
Melissa also learnt that she is alive today because a nurse heard her weak cries, slight movements and gasps for breath as she lay discarded as medical waste and rushed her to intensive care.
‘I discovered that my birth mother, aged 19, had been forced into the abortion by her own mother, who was an educational nurse at the hospital,’ said the 40-year-old from Kansas City, Missouri, who has written a memoir about her life.
Weighing just 2Ib 14oz she lay hooked up to wires and tubes in a neonatal unit on August 29, 1977.
But there was no anxious parent nearby, lovingly holding her minuscule hand, desperately willing her to live.
Because Melissa Ohden’s mother had left the hospital in Iowa, believing the toxic saline solution she'd been given over a five-day period when she was eight months pregnant had ABORTED her child.
However the procedure had failed but Melissa's mother had no idea her daughter had survived, against the odds, until 36 years later.
Melissa also learnt that she is alive today because a nurse heard her weak cries, slight movements and gasps for breath as she lay discarded as medical waste and rushed her to intensive care.
‘I discovered that my birth mother, aged 19, had been forced into the abortion by her own mother, who was an educational nurse at the hospital,’ said the 40-year-old from Kansas City, Missouri, who has written a memoir about her life.
8 months, gulp, thats not legal is it?
was it legal back then?
trump is looking at 20 weeks
was it legal back then?
trump is looking at 20 weeks
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