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03 Oct 17 15:29
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Ms Rudd said: "I want to make sure those who view despicable terrorist content online including jihadi websites, far right propaganda and bomb-making instructions face the full force of the law.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/861571/terror-terrorism-extremism-extremist-amber-rudd-home-secretary-prison-conference-isis

apparently watching a youtube video will get you 15 years now, what counts as far right propoganda?  watching a mass immigration video?  anything that is critical of the government?

will we get a pass like the people who stab their boyfriends in the leg?

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By:
dave1357
When: 03 Oct 17 15:43
I think you know what "far right propaganda" is. Good luck anyone posting you tube links, it's going to be a bit more serious that getting a post deleted by a betfair mod.
By:
clacherholiday2
When: 03 Oct 17 15:54
sadly i think i know all too well, dont type in is***l on youtube and youll probably be fine

seems rudd is getting plenty of abuse for the idea even within her own party, so hopefully they have a clear definition by the time they put some bill together.
By:
Injera
When: 03 Oct 17 16:00
Are we allowed to read the Hadiths online Amber?
By:
donny osmond
When: 03 Oct 17 16:02
15 years for reading chit chit forum

Sad
By:
akabula
When: 03 Oct 17 16:04
Should be a punishment for posting and against the host if not removed promptly but viewing, I think that a step too far.
By:
Injera
When: 03 Oct 17 16:07
The govt are blaming the internet and those reading it for being 'radicalised' (yuk) into acts of violence.

It's a bit like blaming Robert Dyas for selling kitchen knives.
By:
DStyle
When: 03 Oct 17 16:19
what an absolutely shameful, technically illiterate waste of time and of tax-payers' money.

even the effort to come up with the policy, let alone the hours and hours wasted preparing and passing the bill.

anyone who wishes to browse the web anonymously knows exactly how to do it.
By:
lfc1971
When: 03 Oct 17 16:30
It would be a good thing for any country if the Internet was censored, as it is in China.
By:
donny osmond
When: 03 Oct 17 16:32
are you censored in china lfc?
By:
lfc1971
When: 03 Oct 17 16:32
But not for political or non violent websites .
By:
lfc1971
When: 03 Oct 17 16:34
no , just because China stops political discussion does not mean that we have to . It is violent and extreme websites that we should censor.
By:
lfc1971
When: 03 Oct 17 16:37
porn also , any country would be wise to stop these things.
By:
donny osmond
When: 03 Oct 17 16:37
who could argue with that?
By:
lfc1971
When: 03 Oct 17 16:39
: ), no I think there needs to be much greater censorship , it is terrifying the sort of society we are becoming.
By:
lfc1971
When: 03 Oct 17 16:44
Also it is notable that since the internet people have become less talanted and creative, a successful society has to have the correct balance between freedoms and cautious restrictions.
By:
lfc1971
When: 03 Oct 17 16:46
I noticed 3 scientists have just won the noble prize for discovering that sleep is good for us.
By:
lfc1971
When: 03 Oct 17 16:47
Now I prefer a scientist such as Albert Einstein who comes up with equations that I don't understand.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 03 Oct 17 16:52
Surely they should be looking for the people that upload or host the videos ?
By:
Crisp77
When: 03 Oct 17 16:57
Just to be safe I'm staying of Laurence Llewelyn Bowen's wallpaper website.
By:
casemoney
When: 03 Oct 17 17:25
WALOFS Laugh  15 years for Viewing Extremist Videos ,There are Literally thousands of Extremist's on the Police/security forces RADAR ,Nothing is Done ,they are hardly going to start locking People up for watching Videos ,well certainly not Islamic Jihadi Types Laugh  Could you Imagine the Uproar from the Luvvies Laugh
By:
akabula
When: 03 Oct 17 17:28
You'll be getting time for incitement to view if yer not careful case.
By:
casemoney
When: 03 Oct 17 17:29
Laugh
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 03 Oct 17 21:24
The Express.
Not just made up stuff, like the Mail, but very silly as well.
I predict that no-one will ever get 15 years for looking at the internet.
By:
Get me a drink
When: 03 Oct 17 21:54
What is 'far right propaganda' and why is it always lumped in with Islamic terrorism?

I tried googling it and all I got was other sources to this same story.
By:
clacherholiday2
When: 03 Oct 17 22:41

Oct 3, 2017 -- 9:24PM, STUDYFORM wrote:


The Express.Not just made up stuff, like the Mail, but very silly as well.I predict that no-one will ever get 15 years for looking at the internet.


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/oct/03/amber-rudd-viewers-of-online-terrorist-material-face-15-years-in-jail
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/terrorist-propaganda-criminal-offence-new-law-amber-rudd-streaming-watching-extremist-material-isis-a7979986.html
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4598205/extremists-who-who-watch-streamed-terror-content-on-the-web-face-15-years-in-prison-in-fresh-crackdown-by-amber-rudd/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41479620

People who repeatedly view terrorist content online will face up to 15 years in prison, the home secretary has told the Conservative Party conference.

Amber Rudd set out her intention to change the law to increase the maximum penalty from 10 years.

The offence of possessing information likely to be useful to a terrorist will also apply to material viewed repeatedly or streamed online.

Currently it applies only to material that is downloaded and stored.

An example cited was of a male who streamed bomb-making videos on YouTube but could not be charged with a terror offence because he had not saved them.

The changes to Section 58 of the Terrorism Act 2000 will be designed to safeguard those who click on a link by mistake, or who could argue that they did so out of curiosity rather than with criminal intent.

By:
cooperman
When: 04 Oct 17 12:07
Amber showing that she can't use a computer as well as the average teenager. Big Sister replaces Big Brother Laugh
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 05 Oct 17 01:44
Surely they should be looking for the people that upload or host the videos ?

What's the point if they are uploading it from somewhere in a basement in Syria?
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 05 Oct 17 01:57
anyone who wishes to browse the web anonymously knows exactly how to do it.

The naivety of people who watch kiddy porn then are shocked when the police turn up at there door summed up in one sentence.
By:
mokegibboni
When: 09 Oct 17 20:03
'sadly i think i know all too well, dont type in is***l on youtube and youll probably be fine'

Crikey - I've typed in ISIRIS before now! 15 years to access a horse racing tipping service. I better go into hiding!!

Mind you, anyone who has used the ISIRIS 'service' deserves to get a 15 years jail sentence in my view!
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