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I've decided to take the plunge and stop eating sugar.
I eat too much of it, which hasn't resulted in a darts player physique yet but surely will. Links to cancer, diabetes etc of course.
But it's the addiction aspect I really hate.
The test that caught my eye was where rats were given cocaine till they were addicted, then were offered a choice between cocaine and sugar and chose sugar!
Will stopping abruptly give me headaches and tiredness at work
Has anyone succeeeded in doing this ie going from eating far too much of the stuff to virtually none.
Any thoughts welcome
I eat too much of it, which hasn't resulted in a darts player physique yet but surely will. Links to cancer, diabetes etc of course.
But it's the addiction aspect I really hate.
The test that caught my eye was where rats were given cocaine till they were addicted, then were offered a choice between cocaine and sugar and chose sugar!
Will stopping abruptly give me headaches and tiredness at work
Has anyone succeeeded in doing this ie going from eating far too much of the stuff to virtually none.
Any thoughts welcome
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How are you eating (excess - in your eyes) sugar - other than in general foods? - which is relatively unavoidable - unless you go on hunger strike.
Unless you are, ridiculously, putting 3 spoonfuls in a cup of tea or coffee - and things like that - cannot see how you can cut out sugar to sufficiently meet your ideals...
- If you are eating about 6 doughnuts or cream cakes per day - then the answer is staring you in the face - or, your mouth, rather.
Unless you are, ridiculously, putting 3 spoonfuls in a cup of tea or coffee - and things like that - cannot see how you can cut out sugar to sufficiently meet your ideals...
- If you are eating about 6 doughnuts or cream cakes per day - then the answer is staring you in the face - or, your mouth, rather.
2 sugars in coffee or tea. I'll sprinkle it on cereal (even if it's already sugared)
I'll routinely buy a cake etc, thinking 'I'll make this last the week' and finish it within 48 hours.
A fast metabolism so I don't see the damage being done but the bacteria etc must be taking their toll.
I'll routinely buy a cake etc, thinking 'I'll make this last the week' and finish it within 48 hours.
A fast metabolism so I don't see the damage being done but the bacteria etc must be taking their toll.
Knock all those 'additionals' on the head.
Instead of cake - Water biscuits - spread a THIN layer of jam on them, initially, for some taste - then no jam - then no water biscuits.
Tea will taste better, without sugar - far MORE refreshing, too - After a fortnight you will not be able to drink a cup of tea with sugar in it.
You will be amazed how easy it is ... Just 'Mind over matter' - and some self-discipline.
Instead of cake - Water biscuits - spread a THIN layer of jam on them, initially, for some taste - then no jam - then no water biscuits.
Tea will taste better, without sugar - far MORE refreshing, too - After a fortnight you will not be able to drink a cup of tea with sugar in it.
You will be amazed how easy it is ... Just 'Mind over matter' - and some self-discipline.
Tea will taste better, without sugar - far MORE refreshing, too - After a fortnight you will not be able to drink a cup of tea with sugar in it.
Well that is good to hear
As I'm assuming there will be side effects of suddenly stopping a habit my body has been used to for years (eg tiredness, not liking the taste of things without it etc) but hoping it won't take too long to adapt
Well that is good to hear
As I'm assuming there will be side effects of suddenly stopping a habit my body has been used to for years (eg tiredness, not liking the taste of things without it etc) but hoping it won't take too long to adapt
As @onlooker said, just do it. Your sweet tooth will quickly become less sweet.
But it sounds like there are really three separate things going on: your sweet tooth, lack of impulse control (the cake not lasting), and perhaps your metabolism.
For the second, the easiest place to resist temptation is at the supermarket. You've only got to spend 10 seconds not buying the cake, versus hours of not eating it once you've got it home. If you do not want to cut out cake altogether, try individually wrapped ones, or visit a bakery each day for a fresh one. Better still, try fruit instead (although the reason fruit is sweet is it naturally contains sugar).
If you are not getting fat then you are probably doing something right whether it be work, exercise or metabolism. Make sure you do not endanger your health by cutting back too quickly. It is one thing to feel tired or dizzy at your desk but not while you're driving, or taking someone's appendix out, or whatever it is you do. Good luck.
But it sounds like there are really three separate things going on: your sweet tooth, lack of impulse control (the cake not lasting), and perhaps your metabolism.
For the second, the easiest place to resist temptation is at the supermarket. You've only got to spend 10 seconds not buying the cake, versus hours of not eating it once you've got it home. If you do not want to cut out cake altogether, try individually wrapped ones, or visit a bakery each day for a fresh one. Better still, try fruit instead (although the reason fruit is sweet is it naturally contains sugar).
If you are not getting fat then you are probably doing something right whether it be work, exercise or metabolism. Make sure you do not endanger your health by cutting back too quickly. It is one thing to feel tired or dizzy at your desk but not while you're driving, or taking someone's appendix out, or whatever it is you do. Good luck.
Eat porridge made with water in the mornings just plain may seem a little bland at first but it helps your taste develop and then when you eat sweeter things you will find they are no longer so enjoyable and even your system may reject sugary things a little.
Also it can be a good thing if tempted to something sweet a banana is a good substitute and will stop the craving.
Also it can be a good thing if tempted to something sweet a banana is a good substitute and will stop the craving.
You need to identify what there is in your regular diet that contains sugar. For instance ketchup, baked beans and a host of other products all contain large amounts of sugar. Some fruits also have a high natural sugar level, mango, grapes and cherries for instance.
Are your excess calories just coming from food? For me, beer was a significant factor. I cut down significantly on beer and started eating more sensibly, along the lines already suggested. I also started doing exercise. (walking & exercise bike). I carried on eating normal meals and lost a fair amount of weight. For me, it's the combination of eating sensibly, not drinking too much beer and doing regular exercise. I found putting a pedometer app on my phone useful to getting me doing more walking. If you replace some of your beer with certain shorts (e.g whiskey or Gin, you can enjoy a drink, whilst cutting down the calorie intake.
I add a teaspoon full of honey to my porridge (made with water) to make it a bit more palatable. I used to eat 2 bowls of fairly sugary cereal each morning.
I add a teaspoon full of honey to my porridge (made with water) to make it a bit more palatable. I used to eat 2 bowls of fairly sugary cereal each morning.
Does OP have excess calories? My understanding was that he wants to cut out sugar, not lose weight.
Aye, the OP seemed more concerned with his future health rather than weight loss.
The mention of "darts player physique" suggests to me he is not happy with his shape/weight also.
Bad habits leave one man in six with an ‘older’ heart
One in six men over 40 has a heart that is a decade “older” than he is, according to official data that highlights concerns about Britain’s unhealthy habits.
Four in five middle-aged people have hearts that have been prematurely aged by overeating, drinking and smoking, Public Health England (PHE) says. Millions are on the path to an early heart attack, according to its analysis of data from 1.2 million people who used a new “heart age calculator”. It records an individual’s weight, blood pressure and cholesterol, as well as age, sex and some basic medical details to calculate whether their heart has aged faster than they have.
Jamie Waterall, head of the PHE cardiovascular disease prevention programme, said: “We should all aim for our heart age to be the same as our real age. Addressing our risk of heart disease and stroke should not be left until we are older. The heart age test is really important as it gives an immediate idea of heart attack and stroke risk, with no doctor’s appointment needed.”
He said people should know their heart age as well as they know their height or weight, urging those with hearts older than they are to exercise more, eat better and give up smoking.
Older hearts increase the risk of an early heart attack and PHE says most of the 22,000 people who die of a heart attack or stroke each year before the age of 75 could have been saved. By the age of 50 the average person’s heart is 54 years old and one in ten men of this age have a heart that is a decade older than they are, PHE calculated.
Men are most at risk: two thirds of those with older hearts are male. Overall, 16 per cent of men and 11 per cent of women have a heart age more than ten years higher than their chronological age.
John Deanfield, who led the development of the test, said: “The heart age test takes the results of considerable research and translates this into messages that we can all apply to our heart health. Understanding personal risk, together with opportunities from intervention, empowers people to take control of their own cardiovascular health.”
Deaths from heart disease have halved in recent decades but it is still the biggest killer of British men and second-biggest killer of women. Half of those taking the heart age test did not know their blood pressure, which PHE says could mean they are unknowingly at even higher risk of heart disease.
An estimated 5.6 million people have high blood pressure without knowing it. Mike Knapton, associate medical director at the British Heart Foundation, said: “It’s extremely worrying that so many people don’t know their blood pressure or cholesterol levels, as these silent conditions can lead to a deadly heart attack or stroke if untreated.”
Katharine Jenner, chief executive of the charity Blood Pressure UK, said: “Getting your blood pressure tested in your nearest pharmacy or health centre can be the first important step to prolonging your life.”
One in six men over 40 has a heart that is a decade “older” than he is, according to official data that highlights concerns about Britain’s unhealthy habits.
Four in five middle-aged people have hearts that have been prematurely aged by overeating, drinking and smoking, Public Health England (PHE) says. Millions are on the path to an early heart attack, according to its analysis of data from 1.2 million people who used a new “heart age calculator”. It records an individual’s weight, blood pressure and cholesterol, as well as age, sex and some basic medical details to calculate whether their heart has aged faster than they have.
Jamie Waterall, head of the PHE cardiovascular disease prevention programme, said: “We should all aim for our heart age to be the same as our real age. Addressing our risk of heart disease and stroke should not be left until we are older. The heart age test is really important as it gives an immediate idea of heart attack and stroke risk, with no doctor’s appointment needed.”
He said people should know their heart age as well as they know their height or weight, urging those with hearts older than they are to exercise more, eat better and give up smoking.
Older hearts increase the risk of an early heart attack and PHE says most of the 22,000 people who die of a heart attack or stroke each year before the age of 75 could have been saved. By the age of 50 the average person’s heart is 54 years old and one in ten men of this age have a heart that is a decade older than they are, PHE calculated.
Men are most at risk: two thirds of those with older hearts are male. Overall, 16 per cent of men and 11 per cent of women have a heart age more than ten years higher than their chronological age.
John Deanfield, who led the development of the test, said: “The heart age test takes the results of considerable research and translates this into messages that we can all apply to our heart health. Understanding personal risk, together with opportunities from intervention, empowers people to take control of their own cardiovascular health.”
Deaths from heart disease have halved in recent decades but it is still the biggest killer of British men and second-biggest killer of women. Half of those taking the heart age test did not know their blood pressure, which PHE says could mean they are unknowingly at even higher risk of heart disease.
An estimated 5.6 million people have high blood pressure without knowing it. Mike Knapton, associate medical director at the British Heart Foundation, said: “It’s extremely worrying that so many people don’t know their blood pressure or cholesterol levels, as these silent conditions can lead to a deadly heart attack or stroke if untreated.”
Katharine Jenner, chief executive of the charity Blood Pressure UK, said: “Getting your blood pressure tested in your nearest pharmacy or health centre can be the first important step to prolonging your life.”
the only problem with adding honey to your porridge as stow judge does is that negates the benefits of your taste, over maybe a year or so, changing so that you then can really start to enjoy the plain porridge made with water.
this then means that you start to find you don`t enjoy sweet things so much, and even can feel a little off eating them.
it does take a bit of time to adjust, I`m not sure how long maybe about a year or so, perhaps less.
this then means that you start to find you don`t enjoy sweet things so much, and even can feel a little off eating them.
it does take a bit of time to adjust, I`m not sure how long maybe about a year or so, perhaps less.
I have 1 tablespoon brown sugar on two shredded wheat
impossible to eat sugar like that if you try the porridge experiment!
cut out sugar in anything,ditch bread,pastry and dont fry stuff
I agree with LFC regarding porridge made with water. I eat it nearly every morning and occasionally in the evening. I have no desire at all for sweetened food or drink, it really works.
Another thing people at risk of obesity or type 2 diabetes should cut out is carbonated beverage. Even drinking diet versions increases the desire for sugary treats.
Another thing people at risk of obesity or type 2 diabetes should cut out is carbonated beverage. Even drinking diet versions increases the desire for sugary treats.
If the Sugar is too hard too give up in one go in your tea, try half spoonful of stevia.
Try sticking a large stalk of rhubarb up yer arris.
journeyman just done this at the second attempt
first attempt backfired as I tried to cut sugar out completely from day 1 - big mistake as I got more cratchetty than an addict giving up crack cocaine
second attempt I decided to get ween myself off slowly
reduce your intake gradually or else you will likely suffer side effects
try 1 sugar in your tea for a week, then a week with half a spoon, then a week with quarter of a spoon.
don't put any sugar on cereals
slowly slowly catchy monkey
good luck!
first attempt backfired as I tried to cut sugar out completely from day 1 - big mistake as I got more cratchetty than an addict giving up crack cocaine
second attempt I decided to get ween myself off slowly
reduce your intake gradually or else you will likely suffer side effects
try 1 sugar in your tea for a week, then a week with half a spoon, then a week with quarter of a spoon.
don't put any sugar on cereals
slowly slowly catchy monkey
good luck!
I used to drink Coffee with one sugar. It was a while ago now but I didn't find it hard going from one sugar to none. Going from no sugar to one sugar is much harder. Tastes revolting. Never have sugar on cereal unless it was Weetabix and don't care for Weetabix so never have sugar. The thought of it is foul
I'd prefer to have less sugar but the difficulty I have is not doing all the shopping. If I was single and without kids it would be easier but I find the temptation for a snack difficult to avoid. The fridge has to be shared and there will often be stuff that I might not like, so I end up eating chocolate bars or biscuits more often to tide me over. Plus certain biscuits are a menace because they taste too damn good.
I'd prefer to have less sugar but the difficulty I have is not doing all the shopping. If I was single and without kids it would be easier but I find the temptation for a snack difficult to avoid. The fridge has to be shared and there will often be stuff that I might not like, so I end up eating chocolate bars or biscuits more often to tide me over. Plus certain biscuits are a menace because they taste too damn good.
Wine Gums are a total menace. Jeez I could demolish one of those bags in an hour no problem. Like a bottle of Gin to an alcoholic they are to me. Mustn't be seen near them
Advice!
Yin and yang. To help you cut your sugar intake, reduce your salt intake at the same time!
Dont eat anything that " God " did not make. For example bread! Forget Mutiny on The Bounty. Bread does not grow on trees or in the ground. They add salt and sugar to bread. Spaghetti does not grow on tree's. Rice is not white Or is it? ). God id not make pastries, sausage rolls, chips, pizza's or fried chicken or hamburgers.
Baked beans have salt and sugar added.
Try not to eat anything out of a tin, save tomatoes and beans without any sauce or additives like kidney beans, cannelini beans etc.
View sugar as The Devil, get thee behind me Satan attitude!
Every day put " cake " money in a clear glass bottle.
Fat is not the devil. Do not buy " Reduced Fat " foods like yoghurts because they add sugar to help with taste because of the lack of fat which has flavour. I am not advocating eating saturated fat but do not worry too much about it if it is on an animal carcass.
Modern processed foods are full of sugar and salt for longer shelf lives and to add to " taste or flavour ".
Why are " poor " people so fat? They eat rubbish food from tins, boxes and fast food restaurants! Very little from grocers and butchers!
Dont even think about how hard it might be to give up tea in sugar. Just do it for 21 days and you will be fine without it. I have a terribly sweet tooth still but don't take sugar in tea any more. I have half a teaspoon in fresh coffe but may even cut that out soon.
Salt is also dangerous so try and stop adding it to a dinner plate.
Good luck and do as I say not do as I do!
Yin and yang. To help you cut your sugar intake, reduce your salt intake at the same time!
Dont eat anything that " God " did not make. For example bread! Forget Mutiny on The Bounty. Bread does not grow on trees or in the ground. They add salt and sugar to bread. Spaghetti does not grow on tree's. Rice is not white Or is it? ). God id not make pastries, sausage rolls, chips, pizza's or fried chicken or hamburgers.
Baked beans have salt and sugar added.
Try not to eat anything out of a tin, save tomatoes and beans without any sauce or additives like kidney beans, cannelini beans etc.
View sugar as The Devil, get thee behind me Satan attitude!
Every day put " cake " money in a clear glass bottle.
Fat is not the devil. Do not buy " Reduced Fat " foods like yoghurts because they add sugar to help with taste because of the lack of fat which has flavour. I am not advocating eating saturated fat but do not worry too much about it if it is on an animal carcass.
Modern processed foods are full of sugar and salt for longer shelf lives and to add to " taste or flavour ".
Why are " poor " people so fat? They eat rubbish food from tins, boxes and fast food restaurants! Very little from grocers and butchers!
Dont even think about how hard it might be to give up tea in sugar. Just do it for 21 days and you will be fine without it. I have a terribly sweet tooth still but don't take sugar in tea any more. I have half a teaspoon in fresh coffe but may even cut that out soon.
Salt is also dangerous so try and stop adding it to a dinner plate.
Good luck and do as I say not do as I do!
As an atheist I guess I'll starve to death as its my belief there is no God 
I don't believe in God but I think he believes in me
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Just in. Some very useful responses here, all much appreciated!
Bit of a divide between suggestions to reduce intake completely, against doing the slowly slowly catchy monkey way.
I think I'm leaning toward cutting it out completely, so I do like the idea that the point might come where my system rejects sugary things. Hadn't even considered things like ketchup etc.
Right now the idea of unsweetened porrige seems godawful but I know that's the addiction talking.
Putting the cake money in a glass bottle is a good idea. That could easily be about 40 quid plus per month.
Bit of a divide between suggestions to reduce intake completely, against doing the slowly slowly catchy monkey way.
I think I'm leaning toward cutting it out completely, so I do like the idea that the point might come where my system rejects sugary things. Hadn't even considered things like ketchup etc.
Right now the idea of unsweetened porrige seems godawful but I know that's the addiction talking.
Putting the cake money in a glass bottle is a good idea. That could easily be about 40 quid plus per month.
Tea will taste better, without sugar - far MORE refreshing, too - After a fortnight you will not be able to drink a cup of tea with sugar in it.
I gave up sugar in tea and coffee and the way your taste re-adjusts after a period of time is incredible. I now find sugar in tea repulsive. You begin to really appreciate the taste between different coffee grounds as well.
Salt is another taste destroyer if over used
I gave up sugar in tea and coffee and the way your taste re-adjusts after a period of time is incredible. I now find sugar in tea repulsive. You begin to really appreciate the taste between different coffee grounds as well.
Salt is another taste destroyer if over used
Just a thought, what about sweeteners in hot drinks and cereal, I have used different sweeteners for years. I suppose these will be bad for you as well though.
banana is a bad substitute for chocolate. way more sugar in the fruit.
Reading this thread with intrest, ive got diabetes 2 and trying to give up /reduce sugar. I don't like Salad and prefer diet pop to water , love fruit and at the moment eating loads of strawberries to try and stop eating chocolate, just hope strawbs aint worse than chocolate !
you've just got to do it. there isn't a magic way of doing anything, it's will power. if you really want to change for the better then you will take the steps. you know what to do, just avoid anything with sugar in it.
get really anal about it. refuse to eat anything with sugar in the ingredients. then and only then will you succeed. if you're blase and "oh well it's only got a little bit," this is the first step to failure.
platini, white sugar and sugar from fruit is not the same thing. have you honestly ever seen a fat person who eats fruit?
get really anal about it. refuse to eat anything with sugar in the ingredients. then and only then will you succeed. if you're blase and "oh well it's only got a little bit," this is the first step to failure.
platini, white sugar and sugar from fruit is not the same thing. have you honestly ever seen a fat person who eats fruit?
eat a plant- based diet and some meat here and there. don't overcook your food. eat some raw vegetables and limit alcohol intake
started this week
low impact exercise
walking 30 mins
row machine 30 mins
swimming 30 mins
low impact exercise
walking 30 mins
row machine 30 mins
swimming 30 mins
low impact
exercise that's easier on the body an avoids injury
exercise that's easier on the body an avoids injury
give a mate or your wife £500 on the proviso that you don't eat any sugar for a month - then see where you are
Sugar, salt and fat is added to processed food to make it palatable. The reason people are fat these days compared to fifty years ago is nearly all down to the amount of processed food eaten.
Wanna lose weight? best thing you can do is to reduce the amount of processed to a minimum.
Wanna lose weight? best thing you can do is to reduce the amount of processed to a minimum.
Everyone's goals are different. Due to my metabolism I'm not currently carrying excess weight.
I've honestly lost count of the number of times I've been told by someone observing my lifestyle 'how are you not fat'
I have however seen colleagues my own age (4th decade) turn from slim to huge virtually overnight and am wary.
(Plus getting away with it due to metabolism seems like a pyrric victory if in reality I'm setting up disease or an early death)
Have now gone two days without putting sugar in coffee. I'm not missing it as much as I thought, but instead have drunk twice as much of it as usual..!
I've honestly lost count of the number of times I've been told by someone observing my lifestyle 'how are you not fat'
I have however seen colleagues my own age (4th decade) turn from slim to huge virtually overnight and am wary.
(Plus getting away with it due to metabolism seems like a pyrric victory if in reality I'm setting up disease or an early death)
Have now gone two days without putting sugar in coffee. I'm not missing it as much as I thought, but instead have drunk twice as much of it as usual..!
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