Carnage in Barcelona

Propane in Spain stays mainly on............. meanwhile they are trying to blame intelligence on Sky news.  Surely it is the politicians and the alt left who embrace the child refugees they have allowed to pour into europe. Creating nice safe enclaves for them to hide amongst their friends who protect them.  Whether 'refugees' or born in the country they can disappear into their ghettos where the locals won't grass them up.  Yeah!  lets blame plod and intelligence.  How come no one noticed the propane gas hoard.?
Did they think they were going camping?

#########

There's a message here for STUDYFORM, from Brian Cox who is an outspoken contributer to the P J Harvey thread of Youtube fame.

It's in regard to this from STUDYFORM:

"The numbers of crimes committed in the name of religion are not as high as anyone reading this thread might believe"

This is the message -  would you care to tell him he's a ****? So far in 2017 there has been an attempted terrorist attack in Europe on average every 7 days. I can provide a link not that the **** would believe it.

Message delivered.

I am completely fed-up with trying to reason with a gang of half-wit right-wing, sub-intellectual keyboard loners.

Between you, you've ruined the forum.
The non-stop and I mean non-stop, parade of Rightist, anti-everything, argumentative crap is now boring.
You are all boring.

When you can't bore me or the few others who completely waste their time trying to reason with you, you invent arguments that don't exist.
Arguing with people who never said anything in the 1st place.

Some of you - I think definitely you, Insider Trader, are living some sort of agenda. The politics forum used to be full of this rubbish, then was deserted and the chit chat forum invaded, so about 50% of people buggered off.

I have better things to do, you lot and your constant stream of sameness are not worthy of any more of my time. I have made every point that is sensible and rational as have many others. Bandying words with a load of idiots is not how I want to spend my evening.

I have had enough of anti-BBC, anti-Muslim, anti-everything which isn't part of the message.

I'm SERIOUSLY fed up with the NEARLY saying stuff, absolutely meaning it, then saying - "I never said that!"
It's a game I no longer want to play.

Some of you never post anything else on the forum!

Feel free to call me a Lefty, or whatever floats your collective boat, it really isn't an insult.

STUDYFORM, you wrote this:

The numbers of crimes committed in the name of religion are not as high as anyone reading this thread might believe

So what have you got to say about it?

feck off

By the way STUDYFORM - why are you always wrong?

SF having another hissy fit.


I have had enough of anti-BBC, anti-Muslim, anti-everything which isn't part of the message.
So does that make you anti anti everything? I'm confused.

Yes you are. There was no comma after the word everything.

DO ANY OF YOU EVER DO ANYTHING ELSE

Study - out of interest are you pro Islam?

You criticise those of us who challenge Islam and are concerned by its spread across the Western world.

So do you welcome it's growth into christian/secular cultures and what is it specifically you admire?

Not at all.

I criticise you and your buddies because you're idiots and you don't do anything else.

Guys you are all long term posters, debate but don't start falling out with each other and make it personal.

STUDY can't post without throwing insults.

He thinks that by throwing insults around we won't notice that he's a dunce.

Like flies round poop.
Injera, Akabula, Crippen, I.T, Moisok, waiting now for Just checking, lfc, Ibrahima Sonko, then a few others
All with the same message.

Sorry Jayco, I'm all for posters who've been here a long time. But it would be better if they had any other form of topic.

can't answer can't debate - so make it with the insults but then this is the way of them

There's no them, I'm on my own.
But I have to work (unlike many of you) and this is not the best use of my spare time.

So we're the flies .....................

Yep, the thread is the poop.

Too late SF you went onto identify yourself as the target.

Sheesh!

I think ye'll find it's wheesht as in haud yer wheesht.

The numbers of crimes committed in the name of religion are not as high as anyone reading this thread might believe

Care to adjust that statement STUDYFORM?

Any time you're ready.

No need, it holds up.

Part of the issue, you see.
Write about 50,000 words and 1 line is pulled out of context, the rest ignored.

Entirely why you this place is pointless now.
That and the fact you're an idiot.

Then how does this hold up?

If you feel like there’s a new “Terror Attack” headline almost every morning these days, you wouldn’t be too far off the mark. Since the start of 2017, there has been, on average, one Islamofacist terror attack in Europe every nine days.

https://www.conservativeinstitute.org/islam/islamic-terrorism/attacks-every-nine-days.htm

And don't try to rubbish the source like you usually do. There are plenty more saying the same.

See what a dunce you are STUDYFORM?

Shooting from the hip when you don't know what you're talking about.

Looks like STUDYFORM will be going to bed again with another smacked bottom tonight.

every morning is 9 times less than every 9 days isn't it?
But there's no doubt that statement becomes support for ISIS.

How many other violent crimes are there on our streets every 9 days?
Are you not fearful of those too?

Or should we only be frightened of Muslims?

See ......


Then we go round in circles again because you take in NO information.
Just the crap already in your head.

I never ever said there was no fecking terrorism - you just need to find arguments or any form of opposing view and when there isn't one, you create it.

You AND your would-be friend.

Oh and IN EUROPE ISN'T IN THE UK is it?

The long goodbye

The sad stalker

The numbers of crimes committed in the name of religion are not as high as anyone reading this thread might believe

So ''not as high'' suddenly becomes ''one every 9 days'' which is even more than anyone reading this thread would believe.

And still you try to defend your position.

Now you're starting to swear which shows your frustration when you are put on the spot after spouting tripe.

You don't like stuff like details do you STUDYFORM?

You prefer generalisations and calling people names to getting your facts right.

If it looks like a right-winger then call it a name. That's about the strength of you political intelligence.

You utter dunce.

I just too the "one every 9 days" from your post, ffs.

Do you even know what your argument is.
And you wonder why you're an idiot.

Dr Crippen  • August 19, 2017 9:06 PM BST 


Then how does this hold up?

If you feel like there’s a new “Terror Attack” headline almost every morning these days, you wouldn’t be too far off the mark. Since the start of 2017, there has been, on average, one Islamofacist terror attack in Europe every nine days.

https://www.conservativeinstitute.org/islam/islamic-terrorism/attacks-every-nine-days.htm

And don't try to rubbish the source like you usually do. There are plenty more saying the same.

I didn't have a sodding position to defend- What position was I defending?

You want to ask to be let back in pal, even if it IS the weekend.

How many other violent crimes are there on our streets every 9 days?
Are you not fearful of those too?

Or should we only be frightened of Muslims?

That looks like defending your position to me.

You dunce.

let's ignore the organised islamic terrorism and the organised south asian diaspora child abusing gangs

study is right  the bbc and sky try to

No but white men rape girls.

they knew - they had information - they never acted upon it - they didn't want to cause a fence

we must not upset the south asian/african diaspora

I love that trending word


go into their enclaves an root them out  -   No chance

It is one in every 7 days, unless you count murders. Which you probably do.

I've come to the conclusion that STUDYFORM is as thick as two short planks.

What part of this is wrong. Just tell me.

STUDYFORM  • August 19, 2017 9:59 PM BST 


See? the 9 days thing, which YOU told ME?
I repeat it, you get all weird (and wrong, of course), you ignore it?

You did ignore it, didn't you? I'm not imagining this?
It WAS you that said about the once every 9 days wasn't it?

There's still no position, btw, just an answer and question.

Crippen you're rapidly moving from idiot territory into moron territory

You look at this thread as a politician and there is no reason why you shouldn't feel proud.

...Islam - BBC - Left - Religion - offence - PC - Apologists - Liberal - Mental illness - Media - Islam - BBC - Left...

They've got the sheeps in a loop and its working. No one is gonna ask the policymakers any questions until they get out of that loop. And with the ecidence of what we have seen in the last 3 years, people are still stuck in passing around labels. There is no reason why the next few years should get any better.

If you are not against them you are with them - we know where the uncritical study stands.

You are the same crippen who posted this aren't you?

Dr Crippen  • August 19, 2017 9:06 PM BST 


Then how does this hold up?

If you feel like there’s a new “Terror Attack” headline almost every morning these days, you wouldn’t be too far off the mark. Since the start of 2017, there has been, on average, one Islamofacist terror attack in Europe every nine days.

https://www.conservativeinstitute.org/islam/islamic-terrorism/attacks-every-nine-days.htm

And don't try to rubbish the source like you usually do. There are plenty more saying the same.

I dont want to go all craig david, but it is 7 days.

Detraveller. Moisok within seconds of your post has summed it up!
It's why there can be no reasoning. Not Just government doctrine and methodology.

anyone standing in the middle of the road will get run over

I was merely responding to crippen's post, I.S.
Not looking anything up

ok

it is like wearing dark glasses and seeing the world as cloudy

That's cataracts Moisok.
Dark Glasses is dark, or night time.

or carrying an umbrella while it rains

claiming you are not getting wet

Surely that WOULD be the case. Wouldn't it?

You're struggling with this, aren't you?

the eradication of the english lifestyle and traditions which you would want to continue so that
you are still able to protest and debate

this is slowly being eradictated untill you will not longer be able to protest whether right left or anything

the 'liberal' tradition is slowly being eroded

To be fair, moisok, you summed it up. Then unsummed it up.

btw - I'm as critical as anyone else, just not as reactionary.
I'm certainly not protesting, except about the stupidity on this forum.

whilst others are getting wet

you do not understand

a friend of mine asks me why I bother

his analysis is that we are led by idiots who do not know what they are doing

I sometimes struggle to argue against that

I can tell

one is not a fool amongst the insane

Yes, i would think people that are better than me have better things to do

The most accurate thing you've said for months moisok

ignore that last c&p the wrong  un

successfully diverting us from the fact that the family knew  the authorities knew but did nothing about this latest muslim terrorist crew

but then the politicos will shrug their shoulders and say it is part of living in a city

but then some of them are from the same cult anyway

like our dear mayor

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-39453357

the funny thing is they are not allowed to do this in most islamic countries

in fact there have been arrests lately in iran over westernised dance etc

front page bbc for next 47hrs.

Aug 19, 2017 -- 4:54PM, moisok wrote:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-39453357the funny thing is they are not allowed to do this in most islamic countriesin fact there have been arrests lately in iran over westernised dance etc

What are you trying to imply? That she is free to do something here which she wuldn't be allowed to do in a muslim country?

sharia law governs all aspects of a muslim's life

it is allah's will

they are pretending they can do what they like but they are not allowed

in some countries they will simply be arrested

as has happened

just saying

allah is the final arbitrator - nothing to do with you lot of kuffars - what they are doing is haram

sorry arbiter

So you are just blaming Islam because 'WE' allow an unislamic thing to happen which won't be allowed to happen in an islamic country?

A muslim will be perfectly justified to blame us for allowing an unislamic thing like this to take place. Its them who should be p1ssed at it. But this p1sses you off even though we have ourselves allowed this and Islam, according to your own statement, won't tolerate it? Unelss i misunderstood you, you are blaming the wrong party. I sometimes think you just want to blame Islam because you cant se past your hatred for it. I really don't understand your point regarding this song.

with the good old bbc promoting those girls - if their imam finds out - they will be in trouble!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

allah will decide - it is a bit like being a catholic  - shifting blame for actions etc  guilt and the whole thing

ps

I do not hate islam - where did you get that from travelling person

I don't hate anyone

the bbc is promoting something that is haram - hope this helps

Youve confused me even further. I thought poeple blamed BBC all the time because they were pro Islam? But they are promoting haram stuff?

exactly

So they are doing the right thing then?

Good luck, detraveller.
You're just about to find out why it gets so frustrating.

you need to read up on it - haram doesn't go near it - desert dwelling arabs would go ape at them -  they would not be able to control themselves - women like that are a great threat to them

http://www.myreligionislam.com/detail.asp?Aid=5690

meanwhile the armed wing go on a crazy around europe

moisok you really need to figure out what exactly it is that you are so frustrated about. Your posts, as far as i read them, are always about how bad Islam is and how they want to impose Sharia law and invade countries. You even posted a quote about it yesterday. Yet when BBC promote something that is unislamic and haram, you blame the BBC? wtf?

I wonder at the muslim in charge of programming religious programmes etc - she will be in trouble with her friends.

I am not frustrated. I realise what is happening and the road it is travelling.

pun not intended.  You of all people should know where the road leads.

I know. And I am sure I told you prety clearly I have made peace with it because I saw with my own eyes what you only see through BBC and other propaganda machines. You all need to make peace with it too. or at least do something worthwhile if you want to bring change.

no I do not see it through the bbc and other propaganda machines

I have lived, worked with muslims in muslim countries and have even had a relationship with one.  I also look at ALL propaganda outlets including as many muslim ones (some are fighting one another on the airwaves as we speak0

I do not want to bring about change.  I want something far more fundemental in the uk.

No. What I mean by having seen it is that I have seen our own EU govts doing exactly the things that have resulted in today's circumstances. I's all a planned operation. BBC and these radical islamists or whatever is the term for that are just the tools. And these tools are being operated by the very people we vote everytime to lead us. But people just cant see past the media and islam.

Politicians cannot lose. The ones that are on their side are on their side. The ones that aren't are too busy blamig the media and islam.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40993651


Missing Little boy was among the Dead

Am I the only one wondering where he was 'found'? Htf can this happen?

Seems like they knew he was dead all the time. Wanted relatives to know it was their boy first which sounds OK but meanwhile they are asking everyone to search for him.

Simular thing Happened Manchester

There is a story doing rounds on the social media about a swimmer who started his race a minute late because he wanted to honor the victims with one minute silence(and the organisers didn't agree). He's receiving hell of a lot of praise for his action. As long as people like him are alive, and those that are praising him, we can forget that real issues will ever be addressed.

Would it not have been better if he had observed the same minute's silence not for the victims but as a protest to the policies that have brought almost every single terrorist of the last 6 months to Europe? We are still stuck between the two extremes. Its either vigils and motivational quotes from the leaders, or bashing the muslims citing a few relevant verses of the koran. I am yet to see a sensible person protesting or raising his voice against the basic policies that are resulting in today's Europe.

maybe I should turn up an hour late at the job tomorrow in honor of the victims too. Who cares if i lose the job, at least I will have the feeling I achieved something better, a feeling better than all the jobs in the world(These are his words by the way).