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The latest forum competition, the US PGA (for the 1st time since 2013): PLEASE ENTER ON THIS THREAD.
This is how it works:
There are 12 sections You have to pick 1 player, Yes/No, or number (depending on which section) for each one. The scores for each selection are listed below.
Just put the letters A to L with your choice for each - preferably going downwards, followed by a tie-break answer.
In the event of a tie (1st place only), a tiebreak will come into effect so there will be an absolute winner.
There will be Prizes of Sportsbook bets (Thanks Betfair!!!) for the 1st 3 places
The Sections: and some details/clues/history
The event is being held, for the 1st time, at Quail Hollow, Home for the last few years of the Wells Fargo, Quail Hollow and Wachovia Championships and where both Rory McIlroy and Rickie Fowler had their 1st PGA Tour victories. If you REALLY want to study, It might be worth looking into the history of these tournaments.
A. How many will Adam Scott score in Round 1 (His 3 previous 1st round scores in the PGA have been; 70, 76, and 71) 3 points for exact, 1 point if 1 out
Par is 72
B. Day 1 Leader: Name the player who will lead the event at the end of the 1st round. 6 points for the leader, 4 points for whoever's in 2nd, 2 points for being in 3rd. 1 point if 4th.
You may need to look at the full list of players (outright winner betting page will do) to pick your selection.
C. How many of the 21 players whose First name (or initial) FROM THIS LIST (just in case of I’ve missed any) begins with a ‘J’ will make the cut?: Only 70 players (+ties) make the cut. 4 points for being right, 2 points if you’re 1 away, 1 point if you're two out.
A number between 0 and 21 for this section.
These 21: JB Holmes, James Hahn, Jamie Broce, Jamie Lovemark, Jason Day, Jason Dufner, Jason Kokrak, Jaysen Hansen, Jeunghun Wang, Johnatten Vegas, Jim Furyk, Jim Herman, Jimmy Walker, John Daly, Jon Rahm, Jonas Blixt, Joost Luiten, Jordan Spieth, Justin Rose, Justin Thomas.
D. What will the Cut-Mark be? (ie what will be the highest score which will qualify players for the last 2 rounds).
The last 2 PGA championships were cut at +2 and +2 (that is, 2 over par, 2 over par and 1 over par, stayed in) and the last one at this course was +8
It’s likely to be an over par score, but doesn’t have to be. Your choice.
3 points for being correct, 1 point if 1 out either way.
E. Best 3rd round score. Par is 72. Course record is 61 (McIlroy 2015). Tournament record 63.
2 points for being right.
Choose (imo) from 63 to 75 - but the probability is 65 - 67 (possibly depending on the weather)
F. How many of these 20 will be in the Top 20 (and ties) at the end of Round 3 4 points for exact, 2 for being out by 1, 1 point if 2 out.
So, any number between 0 and 20 for your selection, please. (They’re 20 of the most fancied); R. McIlroy, J. Spieth, D Johnson, H. Matsuyama, R. Fowler, B. Koepka, J. Rahm, J. Day, J. Rose, S. Garcia, A. Scott, H. Stenson, J. Thomas, P. Casey, T. Pieters, C. Hoffman, D. Berger, M. Kuchar, T. Fleetwood, M. Leishman.
G. Top Asian. At the end of the PGA. 3 points for top, 1 point for 2nd, (among the Asians). This list is more or less in betting order:
Choose from: H. Matsuyama, BH An, H. Li, SW Kim, SH Kang, A. Lahiri, H. Tanihara, T. Jaidee, JH Wang, KT Kim, YH Song, S. Kodeira, Y. Ikeda, YE Yang
H. Top GB and Ireland player At the end of the PGA. 4 points for top, 2 points for 2nd, 1 point for 3rd (among the Brits/Irish)
Choose from: R. McIlroy, J. Rose, P. Casey, T. Fleetwood, I Poulter, R. Fisher, L. Westwood, A. Sullivan, S. Lowry, C. Wood, M. Fitzpatrick, T. Hatton, G. McDowell, P. Harrington, A. Johnston, J. Smith, M. Laird, L. Donald, D. Willett
I. Top Continental European Player: At the end of the PGA. 4 points for top, 2 points for 2nd, 1 point for 3rd (among the Euros)
Choose from:J. Rahm, H. Stenson, S. Garcia, t. Pieters, A. Noren, R. Cabrera-Bello, B. Weisberger, F. Molinari, T. Olesen, D. Lingmerth, S. Kjeldsen, A. Levy, J. Luiten, J. Blixt, N. Colsaerts, P. Larrazabal, T. Bjorn
J.Top American: At the end of the Tournament. 5 points for top, 3 point for 2nd, 2 points for 3rd, 1 point for 4th (among the huge number of Yanks)
Choose from:J. Spieth, D. Johnson, R. Fowler, B. Koepka, J. Thomas, D. Berger, C. Hoffman, M. Kuchar, P. Mickelson, Z. Johnson, B. Watson, K. Chappell, J. Dufner, J. Walker, K. Kisner, P. Reed, T. Finau, G. Woodland, JB Holmes, B. Snedeker, W. Simpson, X. Shauffele, B. Haas, B. Harman, J. Lovemark, K. Bradley, K. Stanley, R. Henley, B. Horschel, B. Steele, C. Howell 3, J. Hahn, L. Glover, P. Cantlay, P. Uihlein, R. Moore, S. Stricker, P. Rodgers, B. Dechambeau, B. Cauley, D. Summerhays, H. Swafford, J. Furyk, K. Na, P. Perez, S. O’Hair, W. Bryan, C. Reavie, J. Kokrak, L. List R. Streb, W. McGirt, G. Murray, J. Herman, C. Stroud, D. Love 3, K. Kraft, S. Brown, C. Gribble, S. Deane, DA Points, J. Daly, A. Rainaud, A. Beach, B. Smock, C, Moody, JJ Wood, D. McNabb, D. Muttitt, G. Gregory, J. Broce, J. Hansen, K. Pigman, M. Dobyns, M. Small, O. Uresti, P. Claxton, R. Beem, R. Berberian, R. Perry, R. Vermeer, S. Hebert, S. Micheel.
K. What will be the outright winning margin? last 4 US PGA’s have been won by; 1,3,1 and 2 strokes.
Choose from: P/O, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9 plus.
3 points for being exactly right.
L. What will be the final winning score? Par is 288.
The last 4 years winning scores were 266, 268, 268, 270.
In the last 25 years the lowest US PGA winning score was 265, and the highest 280 (all venues). 5 points for spot on, 3 points for 1 out, 2 points if 2 out, 1 point if 3 out.
Choose a number (imo) between 264 and 290.
TIEBREAK : 3 ball winners. Pick the winner of these 3 mythical matches:
1. Gribble, Smock or Pigman
2. Kisner, Lovemark, or Cantlay
3. Fleetwood, Stroud, or Vegas
Simple as that.
If they all miss the cut, the best score for 2 round score will still count.
Other stuff
E&OE - If there's a player missing from any of the sections as I've listed them (I don't think I've missed anyone), he will be ignored for scoring purposes.
Any ties in any sections, points shared; (eg, if the score is 2 points for 3rd, 1 point for 4th, and there's a tie for 3rd, both will score 1.5)
Please put initials with any ambiguous selections (eg. There are 2 Johnsons, 2 Woods) any doubt about a selection for a section will score ZERO for that section regardless of the intention.
If I’ve made any glaring errors please let me know, and I’ll do my best to rectify….. otherwise….
The organiser's (that's me) decision is final. I'll endeavour to update scores and standings at the end of each day's play.
Entries accepted until 1.00pm (UK TIME) AND NOT 1 MINUTE LATER, Thursday 10th August, because I was delayed in putting this thread up (NO LATE ENTRIES ACCEPTED, as the event will have started before the competition does – but not by much.)
Scores and updates, prize info, and everything else connected will appear on this thread. Whilst all assistance and constructive criticism is appreciated, make sure you leave the thread relatively clear so the updates can be easily found.
Good Luck everybody and enjoy the golf.
This is how it works:
There are 12 sections You have to pick 1 player, Yes/No, or number (depending on which section) for each one. The scores for each selection are listed below.
Just put the letters A to L with your choice for each - preferably going downwards, followed by a tie-break answer.
In the event of a tie (1st place only), a tiebreak will come into effect so there will be an absolute winner.
There will be Prizes of Sportsbook bets (Thanks Betfair!!!) for the 1st 3 places
The Sections: and some details/clues/history
The event is being held, for the 1st time, at Quail Hollow, Home for the last few years of the Wells Fargo, Quail Hollow and Wachovia Championships and where both Rory McIlroy and Rickie Fowler had their 1st PGA Tour victories. If you REALLY want to study, It might be worth looking into the history of these tournaments.
A. How many will Adam Scott score in Round 1 (His 3 previous 1st round scores in the PGA have been; 70, 76, and 71) 3 points for exact, 1 point if 1 out
Par is 72
B. Day 1 Leader: Name the player who will lead the event at the end of the 1st round. 6 points for the leader, 4 points for whoever's in 2nd, 2 points for being in 3rd. 1 point if 4th.
You may need to look at the full list of players (outright winner betting page will do) to pick your selection.
C. How many of the 21 players whose First name (or initial) FROM THIS LIST (just in case of I’ve missed any) begins with a ‘J’ will make the cut?: Only 70 players (+ties) make the cut. 4 points for being right, 2 points if you’re 1 away, 1 point if you're two out.
A number between 0 and 21 for this section.
These 21: JB Holmes, James Hahn, Jamie Broce, Jamie Lovemark, Jason Day, Jason Dufner, Jason Kokrak, Jaysen Hansen, Jeunghun Wang, Johnatten Vegas, Jim Furyk, Jim Herman, Jimmy Walker, John Daly, Jon Rahm, Jonas Blixt, Joost Luiten, Jordan Spieth, Justin Rose, Justin Thomas.
D. What will the Cut-Mark be? (ie what will be the highest score which will qualify players for the last 2 rounds).
The last 2 PGA championships were cut at +2 and +2 (that is, 2 over par, 2 over par and 1 over par, stayed in) and the last one at this course was +8
It’s likely to be an over par score, but doesn’t have to be. Your choice.
3 points for being correct, 1 point if 1 out either way.
E. Best 3rd round score. Par is 72. Course record is 61 (McIlroy 2015). Tournament record 63.
2 points for being right.
Choose (imo) from 63 to 75 - but the probability is 65 - 67 (possibly depending on the weather)
F. How many of these 20 will be in the Top 20 (and ties) at the end of Round 3 4 points for exact, 2 for being out by 1, 1 point if 2 out.
So, any number between 0 and 20 for your selection, please. (They’re 20 of the most fancied); R. McIlroy, J. Spieth, D Johnson, H. Matsuyama, R. Fowler, B. Koepka, J. Rahm, J. Day, J. Rose, S. Garcia, A. Scott, H. Stenson, J. Thomas, P. Casey, T. Pieters, C. Hoffman, D. Berger, M. Kuchar, T. Fleetwood, M. Leishman.
G. Top Asian. At the end of the PGA. 3 points for top, 1 point for 2nd, (among the Asians). This list is more or less in betting order:
Choose from: H. Matsuyama, BH An, H. Li, SW Kim, SH Kang, A. Lahiri, H. Tanihara, T. Jaidee, JH Wang, KT Kim, YH Song, S. Kodeira, Y. Ikeda, YE Yang
H. Top GB and Ireland player At the end of the PGA. 4 points for top, 2 points for 2nd, 1 point for 3rd (among the Brits/Irish)
Choose from: R. McIlroy, J. Rose, P. Casey, T. Fleetwood, I Poulter, R. Fisher, L. Westwood, A. Sullivan, S. Lowry, C. Wood, M. Fitzpatrick, T. Hatton, G. McDowell, P. Harrington, A. Johnston, J. Smith, M. Laird, L. Donald, D. Willett
I. Top Continental European Player: At the end of the PGA. 4 points for top, 2 points for 2nd, 1 point for 3rd (among the Euros)
Choose from:J. Rahm, H. Stenson, S. Garcia, t. Pieters, A. Noren, R. Cabrera-Bello, B. Weisberger, F. Molinari, T. Olesen, D. Lingmerth, S. Kjeldsen, A. Levy, J. Luiten, J. Blixt, N. Colsaerts, P. Larrazabal, T. Bjorn
J.Top American: At the end of the Tournament. 5 points for top, 3 point for 2nd, 2 points for 3rd, 1 point for 4th (among the huge number of Yanks)
Choose from:J. Spieth, D. Johnson, R. Fowler, B. Koepka, J. Thomas, D. Berger, C. Hoffman, M. Kuchar, P. Mickelson, Z. Johnson, B. Watson, K. Chappell, J. Dufner, J. Walker, K. Kisner, P. Reed, T. Finau, G. Woodland, JB Holmes, B. Snedeker, W. Simpson, X. Shauffele, B. Haas, B. Harman, J. Lovemark, K. Bradley, K. Stanley, R. Henley, B. Horschel, B. Steele, C. Howell 3, J. Hahn, L. Glover, P. Cantlay, P. Uihlein, R. Moore, S. Stricker, P. Rodgers, B. Dechambeau, B. Cauley, D. Summerhays, H. Swafford, J. Furyk, K. Na, P. Perez, S. O’Hair, W. Bryan, C. Reavie, J. Kokrak, L. List R. Streb, W. McGirt, G. Murray, J. Herman, C. Stroud, D. Love 3, K. Kraft, S. Brown, C. Gribble, S. Deane, DA Points, J. Daly, A. Rainaud, A. Beach, B. Smock, C, Moody, JJ Wood, D. McNabb, D. Muttitt, G. Gregory, J. Broce, J. Hansen, K. Pigman, M. Dobyns, M. Small, O. Uresti, P. Claxton, R. Beem, R. Berberian, R. Perry, R. Vermeer, S. Hebert, S. Micheel.
K. What will be the outright winning margin? last 4 US PGA’s have been won by; 1,3,1 and 2 strokes.
Choose from: P/O, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9 plus.
3 points for being exactly right.
L. What will be the final winning score? Par is 288.
The last 4 years winning scores were 266, 268, 268, 270.
In the last 25 years the lowest US PGA winning score was 265, and the highest 280 (all venues). 5 points for spot on, 3 points for 1 out, 2 points if 2 out, 1 point if 3 out.
Choose a number (imo) between 264 and 290.
TIEBREAK : 3 ball winners. Pick the winner of these 3 mythical matches:
1. Gribble, Smock or Pigman
2. Kisner, Lovemark, or Cantlay
3. Fleetwood, Stroud, or Vegas
Simple as that.
If they all miss the cut, the best score for 2 round score will still count.
Other stuff
E&OE - If there's a player missing from any of the sections as I've listed them (I don't think I've missed anyone), he will be ignored for scoring purposes.
Any ties in any sections, points shared; (eg, if the score is 2 points for 3rd, 1 point for 4th, and there's a tie for 3rd, both will score 1.5)
Please put initials with any ambiguous selections (eg. There are 2 Johnsons, 2 Woods) any doubt about a selection for a section will score ZERO for that section regardless of the intention.
If I’ve made any glaring errors please let me know, and I’ll do my best to rectify….. otherwise….
The organiser's (that's me) decision is final. I'll endeavour to update scores and standings at the end of each day's play.
Entries accepted until 1.00pm (UK TIME) AND NOT 1 MINUTE LATER, Thursday 10th August, because I was delayed in putting this thread up (NO LATE ENTRIES ACCEPTED, as the event will have started before the competition does – but not by much.)
Scores and updates, prize info, and everything else connected will appear on this thread. Whilst all assistance and constructive criticism is appreciated, make sure you leave the thread relatively clear so the updates can be easily found.
Good Luck everybody and enjoy the golf.
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Ignore the information on section D about the last one at this course being by 8 shots. It hasn't been at this course before.
ALSO: ALL the lists are in (more or less) betting order, rather than alphabetical |
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A. 72
B. Paul Casey C. 8 D. +1 E. 65 F. 7 G. SW KIM H. Mcllroy I. H. Stenson J. J. Speith K. 2 L. 270 TB 1. Smock 2. Kisner 3. Vegas |
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PAR IS 71 (Not 72)!!!!
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B Jimmy Walker. C 5. D 7. E 65. F 10. G KT Kim. H R Mcilroy. I H Stenson. J R Perry. K 1. L 267. 1 Pigman. 2 Lovemark. 3 Stroud. I know nowt GL All. |
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A- 71
B- B Grace C- 13 D -+3 E -64 F- 9 G- Matsuyama H- J. Rose, I- J. Rahm J- J. Spieth, K 2 L- 268 M- Gribble/Kisner/Fleetwood Many thanks Study & Betfair sponsor |
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Thanks Studyform if the prize is Golf ball however I have no use for one.
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My Entry, fwiw. I'm always useless at this.
A. 73 B. Z. Johnson C. 11 D. 148 (+6) E. 65 F. 7 G. Ikeda H. Poulter I. J. Blixt J. K Na K. Playoff L. 274 (-10) TB Gribble/Lovemark/Stroud. GL everybody. |
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I'm thinking about my responses
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Thanks for letting us know, Leo.
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Wondered why I couldn't see this tournament advertised on SKY.
BBC have secured the TV coverage !! Excellent. |
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A.75
B.C.Hoffman C.12 D.+4 E.66 F.6 G.Matsu(nap) H.Casey I.Lingmerth J.Zachariah Johnson K.1 L.264 T/B...pigman/lovemark/fleetwood. |
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B - Spieth C - 9 D - +4 E - 65 F - 7 G - Matsuyama H - McIlroy I - Garcia J - Spieth K - 3 L - 280 TB - Gribble / Lovemark / Vegas Cheers Study |
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A...71
B...Rory McIlroy C...12 D...+4 E...64 F...11 G...Matsuyama H...Rory McIlroy I...R Cabrera-bello J...R Fowler K...1 L...267 Tiebreaker 1...Gribble 2...Lovemark 3...Fleetwood Cheers - SF |
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a/ 73
b/ jason day c/11 d/ +1 e/ 64 f/5 g/matsuyama h/ rose i/ rahm j speith k/ 2 l/ 267 tb/ gribble,kisner,vegas well done on the comp, study. |
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A 70
B Speith C 10 D +1 E 65 F 7 G Matsuyama H R McIlroy I S Garcia J B Koepka K 1 L 269 1 Gribble 2 Kisner 3 Fleetwood Good luck all... |
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A. 73
B. r henley C. 10 D. +2 E. 66 F. 10 G.matsuyama H. rose I. olesen J. kuchar K.3 L.269 TB 1. gribble 2. cantlay 3. vegas |
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A - 72
B - C Hoffman C - 7 D - +3 E - 67 F - 7 G - Matsuyama H - Westwood I - Stenson J - D Johnson K - 2 L - 282 TB - Smock / Lovemark / Vegas |
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A. 71
B. Z Johnson C. 11 D. +3 E. 65 F. 11 G. H Matsuyama H. R McIlroy I. S Garcia J. J Spieth K. 2 L. 277 TB. Gribble/Lovemark/Fleetwood |
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A - 72
B - R. McIlroy C - 7 D - +3 E - 66 F - 10 G - H. Matsuyama H - R. McIlroy I - H. Stenson J - R. Fowler K - 2 L - 269 TB - Smock / Lovemark / Stroud TY Study |
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A 73
B DUSTIN JOHNSON C 9 D +3 E 67 F 12 G H. Matsuyama H J. Rose I H. Stenson J D. Johnson K 3 L 268 TB PIGMAN KISMER STROUD Cheers g/l all |
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{A} 75
{B} Z. Johnson {C} 4 {D} 3 {E} 67 {F} 6 {G} SW Kim {H} L. Westwood {I} H. Stenson {J} B. Koepka {K} 1 {L} 272 {TIEBREAK} Gribble, Kisner, Stroud |
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HERE's a handy blank entry form fyi...
A. Adam Scott’s Rd 1 Score. B. Name of First Round Leader (FRL). C. How many of 21 first name ‘J’s make the cut. D. Qualifying Cut-Mark score. E. Best Rd 3 Score. F. Many T20 favs in the T20 after Rd 3. G. Top Asian. H. Top GB & Ire. I. Top European. J. Top USA. K. Winning margin. L. Winning score. Tiebreak: 3 match winners. |
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Entries accepted until 1.00pm (UK TIME) Thursday 10th August.
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Breedingmad • August 7, 2017 10:58 PM BST
....I know nowt. ...certainly with Rod Perry as Top USA  |
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B. J. Rahm C. 11 D. +6 E. 65 F. 9 G. H. Matsuyama H. D. Willett I. J. Rahm J. W. Simpson K. P/O L. 278 Tie break: Gribble, Lovemark, Vegas Thanks for organising again STUDY. You're a true legend! |
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B. R.Mclroy C. 13 D. +6 E. 66 F.9 G. Matsuyama H. R.Mcllroy I. R. Cabrera bello J. J.Thomas K. 1 L. 274 TB Smock, Lovemark, Fleetwood |
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A 74
B D. Johnson C 14 D +3 E 66 F 8 G H. Matsuyama H P. Casey I S. Garcia J B. Koepka K 3 L 267 TIEBREAK : 1 Smock 2 Lovemark 3 Stroud |
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B. Rory McIlroy C. 9 D. 148 E. 63 F. 9 G. H. Matsuyama H. Rose I. J. Rahm J. J Spieth K. Playoff L. 270 TB Gribble/Lovemark/Vegas Thanks.. |
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Wow 63 lowest so far
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A. 72
B. Tony Finau C. 10 D. +1 E. 65 F. 9 G. H. Matsuyama H. R. McIlroy I. T. Pieters J. D. Berger K. 2 L. 273 TIEBREAK 1. Gribble 2. Lovemark 3. Fleetwood Simple as that |
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B. rose C. 7 D. +6 E. 64 F. 12 G. ye yang H. mcillroy I. Lingmerth J. J Speith K. 2 L. 267 TB Pigman/Kisner/Fleetwood |
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A...75
B...B. Watson C... 7 D...+3 E...65 F...9 G...Matsuyama H...Sullivan I...Noren J...Kuchar K...3 L...270 Tiebreaker 1...Gribble 2...Lovemark 3...Fleetwood Thanks Studyform |
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A...75
B...B. Watson C... 7 D...+3 E...65 F...9 G...Matsuyama H...Sullivan I...Noren J...Kuchar K...3 L...270 Tiebreaker 1...Gribble 2...Lovemark 3...Fleetwood Thanks Studyform |
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A 74
B D. Johnson C 10 D +4 E 64 F 9 G H. Matsuyama H J. Rose I R. Cabrera-Bello J D. Johnson K 1 L 268 Tiebreak: Gribble/Cantlay/Fleetwood Thank you Study and good luck everyone. |
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A. 70
B. Garcia C. 12 D. +2 E. 65 F. 7 G. Matsuyama H. Mcllroy I. Pieters J. J. Speith K. 2 L. 274 TB 1. Gribble 2. Cantlay 3. Vegas |
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Oh and cheers STUDY, great work again!
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A 70
B Kevin Kisner C 13 D +3 E 66 F 6 G Hideki Matsuyama H Rory McIlroy I J Rahm J R Fowler K 1 L 272 TB Gribble, Kisner, Vegas Cheers SF |
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A 71
B Rory McIlroy C 11 D +1 E 67 F 5 G Hideki Matsuyama H Rory McIlroy I S. Garcia J R Fowler K p/o L 278 tb Smock Lovemark vegas  |
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Well timed leopard
Entries now closed. Details to follow. |