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got caught on camera 31/01/2017
reecievced the caution on the 31/03/2017.
refused to pay speeding fine on the 14 day rule and had now got a court appearance on the 12/09/2017.
the hearing is to clafify whether i plead guilty or not guilty to speeding.
i rung up the court and spoke to a clerk who was very helpful.
i explained about the 14 day rule and he checked my file and said that the police have it on file that the caution was sent out on the 06/02/17.
he told me to tread carefully and it was down to me to prove that the police did not send out the caution on the 06/02/2017.
how can i prove that?
reecievced the caution on the 31/03/2017.
refused to pay speeding fine on the 14 day rule and had now got a court appearance on the 12/09/2017.
the hearing is to clafify whether i plead guilty or not guilty to speeding.
i rung up the court and spoke to a clerk who was very helpful.
i explained about the 14 day rule and he checked my file and said that the police have it on file that the caution was sent out on the 06/02/17.
he told me to tread carefully and it was down to me to prove that the police did not send out the caution on the 06/02/2017.
how can i prove that?
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What's the date on the caution?
And you might need the date stamp on the letter. |
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date on the letter is 31/03
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You need to be more specific.
31/03 - is that on ... The actual Caution notice? any letter accompanying the Caution? The envelope? |
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^ Because none add up if you ALSO RECEIVED the Caution on the SAME day 31/03
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stamp dated 28/03
letter dated 28/03 got letter 31/03 caution say i was caught speeding on the 31/01/017 and that they aim to prosecute that is why i aimed yo contest it. the court clerk said that the police had it on file 06/02/2017 |
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the clerk doesn't appear to have been very helpful after all then.
it doesn't matter when the police said they had it on file as being sent out, you received the caution on the 31st, as is clear. |
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is it worth going to court to dispute it.
i have 3 piont on my lisence . got done at the place. got caught on camera on 31/01 and 20/03 got both letters on the same day. paid the fine for the 20/03 and am disputing the other one |
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the clerk is being intentionally vague, as are the police.
the caution had to reach your address within 14 days, it didn't . |
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the clerk is being intentionally vague, as are the police.
the caution had to reach your address within 14 days, it didn't . |
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when you deal with the civil service, and the police etc you have to listen very carefully to what they are saying and how they say it.
often they are lying. |
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You need to see a solicitor.
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I would write to the police superintendent and ask him specifically " what are yourvgrounds for saying you sent the
warning notice out on 6 /2 when in fact all the evidence points to it being sent out on 28/3 and received by me on 31/3 ? " He will be reluctant to put it in writing in his name if its dodgy - as he puts himself in a traceable position if subsequently found to be a lie.. I would add to your letter , " there is enough doubt on the legality of this notice for you to becable to use your fair discretion in cancelling it " It must be addressed to a Superintendent -- by name , is even better Make it personal .. |
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You don't have to do anything, you have proof of when you received the caution. It is up to them to disprove that if they can.
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how about just obeying the speed limit?
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got caught on camera on 31/01 and 20/03
one of the arrogant drivers to whom speed limits don't apply. |
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Go to Citizens Advice
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Are you the registered keeper? What do you mean by "caution" do you mean the Notice of intention to prosecute or the fixed penalty notice?
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Looks like you've paid or been credited with paying the first offence.
Meaning the second offence was within the 14 days limit. |
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Is anyone aware of the result of hitting someone at 35 mph and 40 mph compared to 30??
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You are 4 times more likely to die if hit by a car doing 40mph rather than 30mph. Of course such statistics are of little concern to a driver encased in a ton of metal and protected by seat belts, airbags and other in-car safety devices.
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No moisok but if you like we can run a scientific test, I'll drive and you let me know how you get on
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starship by contacting the court you've admitted that you received the notice. Had you just ignored it and given how stretched the Old bill are do you think they would follow up a speeding ticket. A few years ago the Post office admitted to losing 47million items of mail in one year ! Tbh now your in the system I'd just pay it and take the points
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It is the arrogance of the careless, so called drivers, who think THEY are right to break the law. They of course know best. Wrapped in metal boxes.
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I also get extremely annoyed with people who hog the outside lane around the M25 while only doing 90!!!!
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I had a child step out in front of me thankfully for him I was doing 28mph still sent him flying. Old bill didn't believe I'd hit him at that speed until they saw my front wing. I always keep to the limits in a built up area. The kid was OK more shocked than anything but not as shocked as me or his mum who witnessed it. She told the police she didn't know how I reacted so quickly to swerve my car to only catch him a glancing blow ! As it was around Christmas I was breathalysed, good job I hadn't had a drink the night before or I'd of gone from hero to zero
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I no longer drive because of my eyesight but when I did I had no problems keeping within the limits in built up areas.
However on the motorways I constantly found myself way over the limit. |
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Ditto
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got caught on camera on 31/01 and 20/03
one of the arrogant drivers to whom speed limits don't apply. no excuse for speeding i have live here for over two years i go sainsbury one a week i have been down that road 110 plus, just a lack of concretion on my behalf |
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Could be Drink Driving by the looks of it .....................
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Yeah sounds like he's given up on the speeding points and just went for the full disqualification
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This Chieftan you are driving --
are the caterpillar tracks not churning up the tarmac ?? |
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It's too easy go over the limit unintentionally if you have a lapse of concentration.
I went through a town that had a 40 mph limit then a 30 mph limit then 40 again and so on. I found the episode was making demands on my concentration simply looking for the speed limit signs. On a long journey that is not very desirable. Why not 30 all the way through? Many 40 mph stretches in towns have queues if there are traffic lights along the way. So what's the point of speeding up simply to get to the queue faster? |
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It's a limit, you don't have to go 40, if you have trouble reading the signs just stick at 30.
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There's a problem with that Ken. The Highway Code tells us we should keep up with the flow of traffic. And for good reason.
I don't have any trouble reading the signs, it's the concentration it takes looking for them I have an issue with. Then the chance you might miss one. And of course there will be a camera straight after it. |
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Life's too short, man. Just pootle.
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I must admit Ken I have done that before now. If I'm not sure what the limit is it's 30 mph for me.
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My Sat Nav, tomtom 6000 tells me about all cameras and warns me if I go over local speed limit, saved me £100s
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And it only cost 5 grand.
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I've got a device that tells me when I'm approaching a speed camera.
The trouble is it still warns me if the camera has been removed. It doesn't tell you about hand held cameras though. |