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scandanavian_haven
21 Jul 17 10:33
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wasn't old enough to remember the case so was he definitely guilty of murder of his wife? if not him then who else could it have been, I would have imagined they'd have been plenty of dna evidence at the scene of any outsider? the attack from what I read was unbelievably brutal
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Report casemoney July 21, 2017 10:56 AM BST
70 % Black say innocent  70 % White Guilty
Report casemoney July 21, 2017 10:58 AM BST
He certainly looked guilty with a Hundred police cars Chasing him ,But I seen a programme presented Evidence to the Contrary
Report casemoney July 21, 2017 10:59 AM BST
Hes about to be Released from a 9 year sentence for other Crime ,OJ is not the Good Egg people once thought he was .
Report cooperman July 21, 2017 11:31 AM BST
He's served 9 of a 33yr sentence for armed robbery. As for his wife's murder, he was as guilty as hell, but "if the glove don't fit you have to acquit".
Report Ramruma July 21, 2017 11:58 AM BST
No-one in Britain would even have heard of OJ Simpson if his wife hadn't been murdered just as Sky was taking off so all the media types watched American satellite news 24x7 and then gave us a running commentary on the radio.
Report donny osmond July 21, 2017 12:06 PM BST
its quite likely that some of the evidence was planted

the blood evidence had his blood sample taken in the boot of dectectives car to crime scene
before going to lab

blood sample taken from scene had preservative in it, that was added to prevent sample clotting

one glove thrown away at crime scene and other thrown away at ojs house, ....

blood on ojs sock suggesting it had been added long after murder


i think it likely oj done it, but there was so much not right with police department it was easy
to turn trial into a trial of police

judge was a bit weak too, and should have stepped down when it became known police officer knew
his wife, which came out in furman tapes

oj assembled quite a team of lawyers to challenge just about every step of the prosecution evidence






i still reckon on balance he done it, but new theories arise all the time

rather like jfk i doubt that 100% details are known until we invent a time machine
Report donny osmond July 21, 2017 12:09 PM BST
ramruna

oj was a famous actor in uk, even if you didnt follow us football
Report donny osmond July 21, 2017 12:09 PM BST
well known, if not famous
Report Crisp77 July 21, 2017 1:09 PM BST
Must be quite famous. Bruno named his adopted son after him.
Report dustybin July 21, 2017 1:58 PM BST
He was found guilty, just it was in the civil court because his dream team played the system and got him found not guilty previously.

He made some very silly decisions and the authorities were chomping at the bit to get him convicted and he gave them a stupid reason.

Im glad hes not going to die in prison for something stupid, I just home to now toddles off and keeps his nose clean.

Those that argue that we have an investment in our society and legal system cant complain when he out played em on fair grounds.
Report dustybin July 21, 2017 1:59 PM BST
*just hope he now toddles off
Report Whisperingdeath July 21, 2017 2:56 PM BST

Ramruma
21 Jul 17 11:58

No-one in Britain would even have heard of OJ Simpson if his wife hadn't been murdered just as Sky was taking off so all the media types watched American satellite news 24x7 and then gave us a running commentary on the radio.


Really Nordberg?
Report john92 July 21, 2017 3:14 PM BST
OJ - Made In America was on BT Sport then BBC4. That is an essential watch.

The man is a piece of sh1t. He beat his wife over a long period of time. His friendship with cops meant blind eyes were turned.

That series ties in the circus of the trial with race relations in LA. The Rodney King incident was fresh in the memory and one juror confessed on camera that the not guilty verdict was 'payback' for Rodney King. Another juror did a black power salute. It was a farce.

There were some sloppy procedures at the crime scene but the idea of evidence being planted is ridiculous - but within the context of race relations there at the time it was not ridiculous to the black jurors.

As an example it was suggested the glove (that was bought by Nicole as receipts showed) was planted by a detective. A friend of OJ who believed at that time he was innocent, told the story that another friend said - "For that detective to have planted that glove he would needed to have known that one of the most famous men in the country had no alibi, something at that time he couldn't have known." After that he was 99% sure OJ did it.

The gloves were soaked in blood and shrank. OJ was wearing protective gloves while trying the gloves on. Most importantly he has arthritic hands. He stopped taking his medication for 2 weeks so his hands swelled up.... while his defence team goaded the prosecution into getting him to try them on. The black prosecutor, under unbelievable pressure in a race trial walked right into it.

Guilty as sin. The armed robbery was a bit of a farce and misunderstanding and was the law getting payback.
Report dustybin July 21, 2017 3:24 PM BST
The crucial part was that the defence did nothing wrong, the guy was aquitted based on the very aspects and proceedures of the process of trials themselves....so to say a man that was aquitted is really guilty is a total misnomer.
Ofc people can form their opinions, but ultimately there was a trial and a combination of events meant they blew it as much as his defence 'played' the system.

The very fact the police did barginning pleas with 5 of his robbery gang just to get OJs conviction shows all you needed to know about their mindset.
Report dustybin July 21, 2017 3:32 PM BST
The whole period was besett with racial issues.
The very people charged with policing society get found to be institutionally racist, just as the black community had been attesting to essentially was its own trial within a trial.
Report john92 July 21, 2017 4:07 PM BST
I can't agree dusty. If people are unwilling to look at the evidence then the trial and verdict is a farce. That applies to the Rodney King trial as well as OJ's. There was virtually no deliberation as they 'wanted to go home'.

The defence did nothing wrong, you are right. The judge let them away with it and was to blame for what they did. Televising it was insane.
Report scandanavian_haven July 21, 2017 4:18 PM BST
I don't know how jury's are picked, but looking it up, there were 8 black jurors, 2 mixed raced jurors, 1 white juror and 1 Hispanic, at a time of racial tension (Rodney King in particular) it is possible this could have played a part in the decision.
Report Whisperingdeath July 21, 2017 4:22 PM BST
Televising it was fantastic. It gave people an insight into the Justice system. The racist cop subsequently went on to be an " expert " on Law and Order issues for Fox news!

The bottom line was that the prosecutors got it wrong and the the corrupt cop was all the defence needed to introduce reasonable doubt. Any person around at the time would have seen the corruption and racism that was around then and still is now within the LAPD.

The most telling thing for me and indication of his guilt although without a shadow of proof was Kardashian.

The TV series recently was amazing and brought it all back for me.

One thing I think we can all agree on is that Solicitours are generally scum. I am with Napoleon on that one! Many have psychopathic tendencies. They only care about themselves.
Report Whisperingdeath July 21, 2017 4:24 PM BST


scandanavian_haven
21 Jul 17 16:18

I don't know how jury's are picked, but looking it up, there were 8 black jurors, 2 mixed raced jurors, 1 white juror and 1 Hispanic, at a time of racial tension (Rodney King in particular) it is possible this could have played a part in the decision.


Yeah, I think the Prosecution were keen on it not turning into a race issue but they couldn't get away from it and it did play into Johnnie Cochrane's hands.
Report Whisperingdeath July 21, 2017 4:24 PM BST
the murders were not a race issue, the trial was!
Report john92 July 21, 2017 4:26 PM BST
http://www.thewrap.com/oj-simpson-juror-not-guilty-verdict-was-payback-for-rodney-king/



The trial was a reality TV circus that trivialised two people being slaughtered. The verdict was not based on the evidence. The whole thing was a farce.
Report Whisperingdeath July 21, 2017 4:41 PM BST
It was a farce true and two innocent people got murdered and the murderer got away with it. It happens all the time not just in America but here too. How many innocent men rot in Americans jails put there by fabricated Police evidence? How many American Citiznes ( and Australian for that matter ) get gun downed by American Policemen who literally get away with murder?
Report dustybin July 21, 2017 4:55 PM BST
The series that covered the trial was good, but the documentary on OJ was even better I thought.
It was around 6 hours long.

The guy was selling autographs from jail, from recollection they went at around 150 Dollars each and he did thousands a day, which paid for the dream team, which got him off.

Just goes to show justice and capitalism make unusual bedfellows.
Report Whisperingdeath July 21, 2017 5:07 PM BST
what is the name of the documentary and the maker please?
Report Whisperingdeath July 21, 2017 5:08 PM BST
OJ - Made In America was on BT Sport then BBC

was that it?
Report john92 July 21, 2017 5:09 PM BST
I saw recently US cops got called to a noise complaint. A dog was loose and the cop tried to shoot it, missed, and killed some teenager. Baltimore cop was filmed planting heroin after thinking he turned his bodycam off when it was just the sound he had switched off. Things like that will have consequences.
Report dustybin July 21, 2017 5:09 PM BST
could well have been that, there were three episodes
Report john92 July 21, 2017 5:10 PM BST
That's the one. Fascinating stuff.
Report donny osmond July 21, 2017 5:11 PM BST
is john92 an l a cop ?
Report dustybin July 21, 2017 5:12 PM BST
I just looked it up its still available but in 5 episodes, I could have sworn the BBC had it over three 2 hour episodes
Report dustybin July 21, 2017 5:13 PM BST
*Its not still avilable, I just read it on the picture
Report john92 July 21, 2017 5:16 PM BST
I'm only a la cop between races... Probably most likely to be repeated on BT/ESPN
Report dustybin July 21, 2017 5:22 PM BST
The documentary had most of the key players interviewed in it, but I was always wondering what the children of OJ and Nicole made of all the events.

I cant recall seeing what they made of their father's part in it all.
Report dustybin July 21, 2017 5:25 PM BST
.
http://heavy.com/sports/2017/07/oj-simpson-kids-ages-where-are-they-now-sydney-justin-photos/


Neither Sydney nor Justin have ever spoken publicly about the murder trial or their mother’s tragic death. In 2011, an unnamed source told Bossip that Sydney just wants to move forward with life.


“Sydney still believes that her father murdered her mother, but she wants to make peace with him and tell him that she forgives him. She said, ‘Murderer or not, he’s still my father and he’s the only parent I’ve got. I can’t abandon him,'” the source quoted Sydney as saying.
Report cooperman July 22, 2017 11:06 AM BST
Yep, youtube awash with corrupt cop video footage in USA.
Report Platini July 22, 2017 11:44 AM BST
Have to agree, if it wasn't for the murder case, we'd never have heard of him here. He was a huge star in America before and after his american football career. He had a small part in the brilliant Airplane movie and did some other TV work, but he was still a total unknown in this country. The murder case change everything - and had unfortunate side-effects the world is still facing today  (i.e the Kardashians Cry )
Report donny osmond July 22, 2017 11:54 AM BST
he was in capticorn one , which helped spark the fake moon landing stuff
Report donny osmond July 22, 2017 11:55 AM BST
capricorn
Report mafeking July 22, 2017 3:44 PM BST
towering inferno as well

one of the greatest running backs of all time but obviously before it became televised over here in the 80s
Report tobermory July 22, 2017 4:12 PM BST
If you had stopped 100 people in a UK street the day before the murders with a photo of OJ Simpson and asked 'who is this ?' i doubt more than 3 would have any idea.

He was in a couple of movies people would know but had fairly minor roles, perhaps some would have vaguely recalled him from them but i doubt they'd have known his name.

What was tiresome about the original media coverage over here was how it was presented without any context , as if Britain was just another US State and he needed no introduction.

The recent documentary mentioned above though was excellent and does provide all the necessary context to show why it was such a compelling event .

Of course he committed the murders . The ironic thing was that he was charged simply due to the overwhelming evidence , there was no racial issue in the prosecution case , even though the LAPD clearly had serious problems with racism. Then he gets acquitted because he was black , even though he never really identified as a black man himself throughout his celebrity career..... He pointedly refused to get involved with civil rights issues and had a mostly white social circle living in all white enclave . When hundreds of black people lined the street leading to his house when the cops were about to take him away he looked out the window and said “What are all these n*****s doing in Brentwood?
Report dustybin July 22, 2017 4:36 PM BST
If nobody had ever heard of OJ then they certainly wouldnt have heard of his waitress wife.
Report Capt__F July 22, 2017 11:13 PM BST
white waitress wife alliteration
Report zorrostrikes July 24, 2017 4:09 PM BST
Is he single? surely a marriage prospect...

he used to chase his wife and beat her.
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