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18 Jul 17
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For the good people who have crowdfunded £1.5 million for his case. What happens to their money if the legal bid is unsuccessful? Have the parents promised to return the money or are they going to keep it? Last week, when the judge quite reasonably asked for Charlie Garde's head to be measured, to settle a quibble, the parents walked out of court. Do you know how many people have to turn up in court to make it work? But, of course, they are not paying, crowdfunding is. I have an open mind but I wonder why they are still receiving donations.
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if that is the case annie it would concern me greatly, this type of funding as well intentioned as it is should not go directly to the people involved but to a special account and be distributed as required.
Suddenly have the feeling that people think this is all a ploy for alternative means, a get rich quick scheme, would be very sad if that was the case.
What has happened to my post?
Invicta has seen it so it was posted, but has someone had it removed?
Invicta has seen it so it was posted, but has someone had it removed?
Charlie's Fight
www.charliesfight.org/
Bank Transfer. The best way to donate is via bank transfer which you can do using the details below: C R K YATES Sort Code: 20-42-73. Account no: 63305252 ...
I did not see a charity number on this website and C R K YATES is the mother of charlie gard.
www.charliesfight.org/
Bank Transfer. The best way to donate is via bank transfer which you can do using the details below: C R K YATES Sort Code: 20-42-73. Account no: 63305252 ...
I did not see a charity number on this website and C R K YATES is the mother of charlie gard.
Yeah, Annie, I share your concern.
My experience of crowdfunding was a modest donation towards putting on a play, since we knew the writer and some of the players. It never happened, and we were too polite to ask for our money back. I'm not sure there is any redress. Wonder about the family still inviting donations, long after their own target was reached.
My experience of crowdfunding was a modest donation towards putting on a play, since we knew the writer and some of the players. It never happened, and we were too polite to ask for our money back. I'm not sure there is any redress. Wonder about the family still inviting donations, long after their own target was reached.
Never knew that Annie. Would put me off donating.
BTW haven't both the Pope and Donald Trump said they would pay for this?
If that's the case what's the funds for?
BTW haven't both the Pope and Donald Trump said they would pay for this?
If that's the case what's the funds for?
I don't know how these gofundme sites work, I would have thought if the money is being raised for charity, the money you raise is sent to the charity account, if the money is for personal use, i.e. cancer treatment of in this case specialist treatment, it would make sense to pay into the parents direct account given they are the one's who have to pay for the treatment and trips abroad
Is there even an option for a middleman account of sorts to repay excess amounts raised back to donators
? if not don't see what the problem would be.
Is there even an option for a middleman account of sorts to repay excess amounts raised back to donators
? if not don't see what the problem would be.
There are 2 other ways to donate, PayPal and GoFundMe.
Both these sites charge a processing fee. (From memory it's 5%).
The 3rd option, bank transfer direct to the mothers account, is without cost.
Both these sites charge a processing fee. (From memory it's 5%).
The 3rd option, bank transfer direct to the mothers account, is without cost.
Why are they asking for donations when everyone concerned as far as I am aware are donating their time and treatment free?
Charlie Gard is blind, deaf, brain damaged and cannot breathe without help.
Charlie Gard is blind, deaf, brain damaged and cannot breathe without help.
well just found the gofundme page https://www.gofundme.com/please-help-to-save-charlies-life
and it says Connie Yates
921 Facebook Friends
This person will receive your donation directly.
All payments are final and cannot be refunded.
so People who are donating know the score regardless of the outcome of this case, though I agree it doesn't make it right if they have excess amount of funds and ultimately benefit financially from it, I am surprised there is not some kind of pay back scheme.
So far 1.3 million has been raised, also agree don't know why people keep donating if they have that much.
and it says Connie Yates
921 Facebook Friends
This person will receive your donation directly.
All payments are final and cannot be refunded.
so People who are donating know the score regardless of the outcome of this case, though I agree it doesn't make it right if they have excess amount of funds and ultimately benefit financially from it, I am surprised there is not some kind of pay back scheme.
So far 1.3 million has been raised, also agree don't know why people keep donating if they have that much.
Not sure Annie. Found a 4th way to donate.
Thank you so much for visting Charlie's Shop! xx
This shop was set up by Charlie's auntie Laura so that people can find all the lovely items made by Charlie's supporters in one place. Everything here is made by or sourced by the lovely people found on Charlie's Facebook group Charlie's Army. Profits from items sold are passed on to support Charlie and his family.
Thank you so much for visting Charlie's Shop! xx
This shop was set up by Charlie's auntie Laura so that people can find all the lovely items made by Charlie's supporters in one place. Everything here is made by or sourced by the lovely people found on Charlie's Facebook group Charlie's Army. Profits from items sold are passed on to support Charlie and his family.
don't no who,s pulling the strings but this family really ought to let it go,godfather now no,s more than all the dr,s in great Ormond street,reckons the lad doesn't even need a dr on site,couldnt imagine working at G O st and having their good name and hard work dragged through the mud in court day in ,day out
This story should have ceased being news some time ago. Blame the media.
The question of what happens to the money should definitely be asked. This whole issue, like some others which are all over the press, seems to me to show a huge lack of respect to people who are going through a similar horrible time, only quietly.
The question of what happens to the money should definitely be asked. This whole issue, like some others which are all over the press, seems to me to show a huge lack of respect to people who are going through a similar horrible time, only quietly.
I agree. People keep insisting the poor lad should die with dignity, I've never seen such an undignified mess.
studyform spot on the country and ormonde street full of parents going through similar circumstance with quiet dignity,think thegards will already have the compensation claims ready to go,how many hours have they sat in court.give tv interviews when they could ,should have been at the lads bedside
I think the parents were understandably deeply upset, clutching at straws, using social media and listening to the faux sympathy all over it. And, trying to use the press, who doubtlessly didn't discourage it, to get a solution to the unsolvable.
No-one has had the bravery (that we've been told about - and possibly for fear of litigation) to tell them to stop it now. Or at least they've refused to listen.
No-one has had the bravery (that we've been told about - and possibly for fear of litigation) to tell them to stop it now. Or at least they've refused to listen.
As said previously, on the gofundme page set up for Charlie Gard, it says, This person will receive your donation directly. All payments are final and cannot be refunded.
Don't understand why this page is still accepting donations, and why people are still donating? some people have donated over 100 quid in the last hour, why? the fight is over so not sure what people are now contributing towards?
I think the media will probably ask in time about the money but know they would be lampooned if they did so now, it is relevant though, they are millionaires now after all, unless they donate it all to charity and just take what they have lost in work pay, funeral costs etc.
Don't understand why this page is still accepting donations, and why people are still donating? some people have donated over 100 quid in the last hour, why? the fight is over so not sure what people are now contributing towards?
I think the media will probably ask in time about the money but know they would be lampooned if they did so now, it is relevant though, they are millionaires now after all, unless they donate it all to charity and just take what they have lost in work pay, funeral costs etc.
84,284 people have made donations, wouldn't be realistically possible to refund all.
they been fighting for there boy for months there was a very slim chance months ago any parent would take it if they could have gone to america the money they already said its going to other children with the same condition in a trust i would trust any doctor always get a second opinion
They had 2nd, 3rd and 4th opinions tmdm but refused to believe them.
The lad has no quality of life and never will have.
The kindest and most humane thing to do was let him die with dignity.
The lad has no quality of life and never will have.
The kindest and most humane thing to do was let him die with dignity.
The 'expert' from America came to help, didn't he?
It was an untested, unproven potential "treatment", which I think it's fair to assume wouldn't work.
They were fighting for their boy, of course. Who wouldn't?
It was the further opinions of several doctors and courts that they were disregarding in the vain hope that this American bloke could effectively have a cure!
The mum was, a couple of weeks ago, talking about her boy growing up to ride a bike!
It's all very sad, but the stuff that people have to deal with every day.
It was an untested, unproven potential "treatment", which I think it's fair to assume wouldn't work.
They were fighting for their boy, of course. Who wouldn't?
It was the further opinions of several doctors and courts that they were disregarding in the vain hope that this American bloke could effectively have a cure!
The mum was, a couple of weeks ago, talking about her boy growing up to ride a bike!
It's all very sad, but the stuff that people have to deal with every day.
The facebook generation Cry
Pretty ironic. I first heard about this on here.
Pretty ironic. I first heard about this on here.
the wee man is more famous that any of us.
he doesn't know he's famous.
like someone in Towie. his brain is impaired.
he doesn't know he's famous.
like someone in Towie. his brain is impaired.
The responses on here are not the same as on facebook, shrewd dude.
The peer pressure and fashion to pay for every cause mentioned is a bit greater on facebook.
The peer pressure and fashion to pay for every cause mentioned is a bit greater on facebook.
Surprising how few have tried crowd funding through the Betfair forum.
I haven't read about it on Facebook so I wouldn't know. It's just ironic criticising the media and saying it should have ceased being news ages ago on a new thread that was started a week ago after the other one with about a hundred posts dropped off the front page.
the judge has called in a specialist with a claw hammer.
Sorry, I fail to see any irony.
This isn't the media - we're not being paid to write or talk about this.
It's not facebook and the style of this forum doesn't attract the "togetherness" that facebook does, nor does it provide any way of raising funds.
As for another thread - I hadn't realised we were limited to just one!
This isn't the media - we're not being paid to write or talk about this.
It's not facebook and the style of this forum doesn't attract the "togetherness" that facebook does, nor does it provide any way of raising funds.
As for another thread - I hadn't realised we were limited to just one!
As for another thread - I hadn't realised we were limited to just one!
Your not. If you want to post about something that you find newsworthy and worthy for discussion on social media then that's entirely your decision but it's again ironic that you also criticise other media for continuing to keep it in the news and a particular social media's generation for making the whole thing undignified.
Your not. If you want to post about something that you find newsworthy and worthy for discussion on social media then that's entirely your decision but it's again ironic that you also criticise other media for continuing to keep it in the news and a particular social media's generation for making the whole thing undignified.
By Media, shrewd dude, I mean the mainstream press. The TV and Radio and Newspaper journalists.
The fact that it's been the lead item on TV news for most of the last 2 or 3 weeks.(chalk)
Because I find it wrong that this is kept so prevalent as a news item shouldn't and doesn't preclude me or anyone else here from talking about it. (cheese)
The fact that it's been the lead item on TV news for most of the last 2 or 3 weeks.(chalk)
Because I find it wrong that this is kept so prevalent as a news item shouldn't and doesn't preclude me or anyone else here from talking about it. (cheese)
By Media, shrewd dude, I mean the mainstream press. The TV and Radio and Newspaper journalists.
The fact that it's been the lead item on TV news for most of the last 2 or 3 weeks.(chalk)
[i]Because I find it wrong that this is kept so prevalent as a news item shouldn't and doesn't preclude me or anyone else here from talking about it. (cheese)[/i]
Because I state something is ironic you think that I am in some way stating that irony should be banned?
The fact that it's been the lead item on TV news for most of the last 2 or 3 weeks.(chalk)
[i]Because I find it wrong that this is kept so prevalent as a news item shouldn't and doesn't preclude me or anyone else here from talking about it. (cheese)[/i]
Because I state something is ironic you think that I am in some way stating that irony should be banned?
He has a chance of life all it takes
is the judge to let him have a chance.
10% of a goo life well 10% IS 1/10
last a heard.I would take that chance
any day.
is the judge to let him have a chance.
10% of a goo life well 10% IS 1/10
last a heard.I would take that chance
any day.
No Chance Brain ,The american who was Involved has said he is not suitable for treatment ,somehow I doubt he ever was ,Parents clutching at Straws ,but then who wouldn't ,He was born Healthy was that way for a while then the Illness kicked in
tragic and very hard to take ..
He has probably been dead for a Couple of months Bar the Medical assistance ,its time say goodbye as hard as that maybe.
tragic and very hard to take ..
He has probably been dead for a Couple of months Bar the Medical assistance ,its time say goodbye as hard as that maybe.
This could go on and on, s_d.
I still can't see any irony. Where else can I write down what I think?
I'm not using mainstream press, or posting on facebook. Just within a limited conversation in a place where no money is being raised and no-one is being paid.
I think you're not understanding what I mean by "Facebook generation". I mean the outpouring of false emotion and needing to feel part of everything that spreads all over the place, no matter how unconnected people are to the actual event. 'Trending' or 'Top Story', getting everyone to wear a green ribbon, spreading the word and crowd-funding. None of which is the same as posting on here.
You are somehow implying that because I dislike Facebook (and its adherents) that I shouldn't write anything online because it's hypocritical. Well, it isn't.
I'll try an analogy.
Just because I don't think fish and chips shouldn't be served in paper and polystyrene, it doesn't become an irony that I'd want to nick one of your chips!
I still can't see any irony. Where else can I write down what I think?
I'm not using mainstream press, or posting on facebook. Just within a limited conversation in a place where no money is being raised and no-one is being paid.
I think you're not understanding what I mean by "Facebook generation". I mean the outpouring of false emotion and needing to feel part of everything that spreads all over the place, no matter how unconnected people are to the actual event. 'Trending' or 'Top Story', getting everyone to wear a green ribbon, spreading the word and crowd-funding. None of which is the same as posting on here.
You are somehow implying that because I dislike Facebook (and its adherents) that I shouldn't write anything online because it's hypocritical. Well, it isn't.
I'll try an analogy.
Just because I don't think fish and chips shouldn't be served in paper and polystyrene, it doesn't become an irony that I'd want to nick one of your chips!
It's not going to be very comfortable for him being dragged about in his final hours. Heart breaking, but just let him go in peace, poor kid.
While we need to take account of the anguish of relatives and the need for hospitals to avoid criticism and lawsuits, I wonder if the elephant in the room is being addressed.
How much of NHS resources should be spent on keeping alive vegetative patients? How long should intensive care facilities, which could be used to save critical patients with a chance of recovery, be blocked by apparently hopeless cases?
Has anyone seen this issue debated in the press, I haven't heard it mentioned on TV.
How much of NHS resources should be spent on keeping alive vegetative patients? How long should intensive care facilities, which could be used to save critical patients with a chance of recovery, be blocked by apparently hopeless cases?
Has anyone seen this issue debated in the press, I haven't heard it mentioned on TV.
There are many Issues need to be Looked at Regarding End of Life ,No doubt the Parents will kick off when Charlie passes within the 1st day or two at the Hospice ... if he lasts that long
gosh doctors i cant say what i think about them i would be banned in my next life also
Kids Brain Dead MDM has been for sometime . Very little wrong with the care Provided at Great Ormonde if there were any hope he would not be at this Stage ,,,,
Kids Brain Dead MDM has been for sometime . Very little wrong with the care Provided at Great Ormonde if there were any hope he would not be at this Stage ,,,,
they wanted to go to america months ago doctor there said there only a 10 per cent chance it would work if my son was ill doctor said its a million to 1 chance i would also want to go i hope people dont send gosh any money mine going to macmillan at christmas time in future
There was no 10% chance for the child at any time.
All that was ever said was that they might be able to reverse some of the damage.
He would have remained blind, deaf and with substantial brain damage.
All that was ever said was that they might be able to reverse some of the damage.
He would have remained blind, deaf and with substantial brain damage.
only 11months old but died a man sleep peacefully R I P
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