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jed.davison
17 Jul 17 10:23
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-40628560

Crazy.

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By:
Breedingmad
When: 17 Jul 17 10:37
They can afford it of course as these Nurses work in the Public sector and are being paid too much
according to Hammond.
By:
Ken Masters
When: 17 Jul 17 10:40
If she's too dumb to fiddle herself a blue-badge, especially with her privileged access, then maybe she deserves it. I'd push her in and hang the lever myself.
By:
saddo
When: 17 Jul 17 12:04
Finding affordable parking near work is a nightmare for millions of people, not just nurses. We should resist elevating them too highly above everyone else with the same problem.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 17 Jul 17 12:16
Who is the nurse who owes £150,000?
By:
cooperman
When: 17 Jul 17 12:17
Pay it in pennies, will cost them more than that to count and bank it. Wink
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 17 Jul 17 12:38
75 of them have been flouting the rules.
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 17 Jul 17 14:34
The parking near my local hospital King's College is absolutely hideous. You have to park a mile away if you are lucky.
By:
jed.davison
When: 17 Jul 17 14:37
The less said about that place the better slippy.
By:
ufcdan
When: 17 Jul 17 17:41
No problem once Jeremy gets in she'll be able to pay it off easy Plain
By:
dustybin
When: 17 Jul 17 20:18
What a state 'we' are in when the the very people who we all rely on cant park at their place of work for free.

Just think of all those 'important' CEO spaces at companies up and down the land reserved for the masters of the universe.
By:
akabula
When: 17 Jul 17 20:38
A couple of points from the article.

Indigo said as a "gesture of goodwill" in April 2016 it cancelled all parking charge notices up to the end of March 2016 and reduced the charge to £10 if paid within 14 days.

"By the time I get into work there are usually no parking spaces and I have to park off site and quite often I have to park a 20 to 25 minute walk away."


I used to have to pay £15 a day in Edinburgh (about 12 years ago) or half that amount and a 20 minute walk. TBF I wasn't there every day but normally would be happy with a 20/25 minute walk if parking free.
The report mentions 75 nurses involved with 3 persistent offenders. Wiping the slate clean in April 2016 yet the nurses carried on regardless.
By:
dustybin
When: 17 Jul 17 21:19
Let's just hope those dipping bread profiting from such an act will one day be bed bound in a hospital awaiting the nurse who is away trying to park their car on the other side of town.
By:
dustybin
When: 17 Jul 17 21:23
There's a massive shopping complex on the other side of Sheffield called Meadowhall.
It's got a huge amount of parking spaces, and is free.
I've never even seen it completely full, so I suspect all those who work there never have had trouble parking.

But then we like in a society were retail and enterprise trumps the health and well being of people.
By:
dustybin
When: 17 Jul 17 21:24
*live
By:
akabula
When: 17 Jul 17 21:36
So a big parking lot in Meadowhall defines our society?
By:
dustybin
When: 17 Jul 17 21:45
It sums it up yes
The abundance of coin counters have imposed on everyone the first order of everything....,the need to profit.

Was it Locke who said 'wealth derives not from trade but from labour'
Well here people are even being punished in pursuit of doing the honourable labour of care ffs.

While purpose built infrastructure and cathedrals to worship commerce create all that is needed to profit.

Come all ye and purchase more cr4p
By:
akabula
When: 17 Jul 17 21:49
Providing parking spaces probably done to some formula ie workers v visitors but will be conditioned by land availability and cost.
Not ideal situation here but the answer aint running up huge parking fines.
By:
dustybin
When: 17 Jul 17 21:58
There's a car park, there are nurses who are required to work, having a company who chase all and (I suspect) profit from that is the same sort of formula that hands the bollox of humans over to the market and looks away when the innocent get trodden on and those that take out far in excess of merit or input go unhindered.

It's just as Juvenal said in Rome around 100AD, the people have given over the collective interest just to be occupied in unimportant things.
By:
akabula
When: 17 Jul 17 22:17
Wouldn't have thought parking places were a problem in 100AD. Wink
By:
bongo
When: 17 Jul 17 22:31
Countries that do not have NHS type systems do not have this problem.
But then again, market systems with universal coverage are based around patients as customers ( who also have parking requirements ).

The only other EU country with the NHS system has parking issues e.g.
.
https://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20131028/local/Oncology-nurses-will-not-move-if-no-parking-.492234
By:
ufcdan
When: 18 Jul 17 08:00
Labours manifesto regarding free hospital parking..........how would that work ? My local hospital is close to the town centre so it doesn't take a genius to work out what would happen if the hospital parking was free ! Oh hang genius/Labour party it's becoming clearer now Mischief
By:
dustybin
When: 18 Jul 17 08:42
They would no doubt have a ticket based system of some sort.

That detracts away from the real issue of allowing permit holders definate free parking.
The impetus nowadays is simply on the sale of goods and services and everything else be dammed.
By:
donny osmond
When: 18 Jul 17 10:09
people thought private parking tickets could not be enforced because
the internet said so.

these poor folk have learnt a hard lesson, but i doubt they can pay.



rogerthebutler started a thread and the great and good of chit chat told him not to pay
By:
Sica Dan
When: 18 Jul 17 10:42
Most Scottish hospitals have free parking including a massive new one in Glasgow,
the planners massively underestimated how many staff would travel by car,result
was the owners of nearby vacant land made a lot of money charging £3 a day.
By:
dustybin
When: 18 Jul 17 10:44
The concept of private ownership of property is said to be the fulcrum from which all economics is based. (Plato knew this to be false)
But owning real estate itself isn't the origin of wealth creation, if you grew something on agricultural land it almost would be (except it would take energy first, which is the true origin of economics)...holding a piece of land that you charge for use isn't.

There is no greater wealth than health itself.

Give the Tory mentality long enough and they will have contrived a means in which they will be able to charge poor people for having the audacity of owning it like a commodity.
By:
BARROWBOY
When: 18 Jul 17 13:09
people thought private parking tickets could not be enforced because
the internet said so.


From memory the main gist of the thread on here was that parking fines issued by private companies were invoices rather than fines,they were enforceable but only by going through a very time consuming exercise in the small claims courts which wasnt worth it for the amount involved,these firms relied on individuals paying up voluntarily because they **** themselves when the official looking letter came through the door.The amount involved in these high profile cases obviously makes it worthwhile to pursue.So i guess the advice should be if you get one ignore it,its not worth their while to pursue you.if you have hundreds brace yourself for a big payout or make plans to leave the country.
By:
akabula
When: 18 Jul 17 21:11
Jeremy tweeted that the charges were wrong and he'd abolish them.
Tweet now deleted as he realised that the charges were introduced by Labour.
By:
saddo
When: 18 Jul 17 21:16
Laugh
By:
akabula
When: 18 Jul 17 21:29
Was in a parody account on twitter @JeremySteptoe
He saved the tweet before Jeremy could delete it. Laugh
Good account btw  for exposing some of his hypocrisy.
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