Winston Churchill. Hero or Villain?

very underrated oil painter.

''I have taken more out of alcohol than alcohol has taken out of me.''

Sir Winston Churchill - the greatest man that ever lived.

Probably.

Sir Winston Churchill - the greatest man that ever lived.

puer, oh puer, oh puer!

gallipoli, tonypandy ?

Beat the Boche - twice.

Should the British Empire and its commonwealth last for a thousand years men will still say
" THIS, was their finest hour ".

How long did it last after that speech?

Sold out to "Globalists" IMO

villain.
In many ways.

Hero (a bit lucky) in very few.

War criminal, having watched the documentary "The greatest story never told" i can safely say that there was a good side and evil side in WW2 and it's not who you have been spoon fed to think!!!!

CIGAR IMAGINATION MAN,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoSo51whVSw

HERE?.... WHERES MY BRANDY MAN

what about when he shafted the miners? twenties.did someone get shot?
Dardanells(the sea of hell) ? is that a thing?

Detested the miners but loved the company of minors.....

As was said of Churchill: he was often wrong but he was right the one time it really mattered.

Churchill is also our only Prime Minister -- and possibly the only world leader ever, though I've only spent two minutes thinking about it so there could be others -- to have been shot at on four continents: Europe in the trenches of WW1; Asia in Afghanistan; Africa in the Boer War and Sudan; the Americas in the Cuban war of independence.

Did The Dirty On The French For Starters.....I have never been a fan of the man.

He was great and heroic and Britain was great and heroic , the greatest country in the history of the world.
It was something like a miracle.

I'm glad lfc has the dangerous leftie (c1910) as his hero.

he was a liberal salmon, like myself.

Liberal.With a small l liberal can mean just about anything.

War criminal,having watched the documentary "The greatest story never told" i can safely say that there was a good side and evil side in WW2 and it's not who you have been spoon fed to think!!!!

Did want was needed to be done to win including sinking the French fleet. Certainly wasn't like the politicians of today more worried about people's human right and not wanting to offend. On that matter I see that the SAS is being looked into for being a bit rough in Afghanistan I'm sure ISIS also hold reviews "Should we of beheaded that fella or would a Chinese burn of been enough" im fed up with our troops being held to account when those that they are fighting do not play by any set of fair rules, they haven't even got the b@lls to wear a uniform so that they can melt into the general population

For me it just means letting people take procession of a small bit of existence .

* to be liberal.

He did not lack the courage to show himself as an oppressor of that evil and dangerous regime ,
A great country needs great people, and Churchill was that and god went with him and Britain .

He was too good for the English if some of the comments on here are anything to go by.
Stroll on, some of them think more of Lenny Henry than they do of our greatest leader.
No wonder the country has gone to the dogs.

Made great speaches, don't know about great leader. If it wasn't for the Americans would Britain have won the war?

If it wasn't for the Americans would Britain have won the war?

If it wasn't for Britain, would the Americans have won the war, or even entered it?

why didnt he win general election of 1945 ?

Ramruma 05 Jul 17 17:16 Joined: 11 Dec 02 | Topic/replies: 8,872 | Blogger: Ramruma's blog
If it wasn't for the Americans would Britain have won the war?

If it wasn't for Britain, would the Americans have won the war, or even entered it?



Number of military casualties in World War 2
Britain, USA and France combined = 900,000
USSR = 12,000,000

Who won the war?

@FredRescue -- no-one disputes the terrible suffering of the Soviet people. The Eastern (Russian) front saw the same sort of industrial scale slaughter as the First World War trenches. Whether the butcher's bill made much difference is another question.

If Britain had fallen or had surrendered in 1940, the Germans would have had a free run at Russia, without us tying up German resources or arming the Soviets via the Arctic convoys. Eventually either Germany or the Soviet Union would have won. There would have been no way in for America. The whole of Europe would have been under a Nazi dictatorship or a Communist dictatorship.

Inspired a nation when it was on its knees..now think of Corbyn and May and can you honestly say they do the same...

Ramruma 05 Jul 17 19:35 Joined: 11 Dec 02 | Topic/replies: 8,873 | Blogger: Ramruma's blog
@FredRescue -- no-one disputes the terrible suffering of the Soviet people. The Eastern (Russian) front saw the same sort of industrial scale slaughter as the First World War trenches. Whether the butcher's bill made much difference is another question.

If Britain had fallen or had surrendered in 1940, the Germans would have had a free run at Russia, without us tying up German resources or arming the Soviets via the Arctic convoys. Eventually either Germany or the Soviet Union would have won. There would have been no way in for America. The whole of Europe would have been under a Nazi dictatorship or a Communist dictatorship



You are correct the Nazis saved Western Europe the misery of Communist dictatorship that Eastern Europe endured for 50 years.

Dr Crippen

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Beat the Boche - twice.


Unadulterated drivel.

@FredRescue -- Britain allowed the Americans (and the Russians if you like) to save Europe and perhaps the world.

Britain did not win the war but we were necessary for the war to be won.

scandanavian_haven

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Made great speaches, don't know about great leader. If it wasn't for the Americans would Britain have won the war?

If it wasn't for the USSR, would the western allies have won on the western front?

Hero
Inspired Britain not to surrender to Nazis
Started the "special" UK US relationship
Top class orator
Anti trade union


Are you a Daily Mail reader by any chance?

He didn't like the Scots, quite right.

The Ruskies killed more of their own people than Hitler ever did, commie mugs.

If Britain had let Hitler to it the Germans would have been in Moscow within weeks, game over for Stalin and his henchmen

Stalin and the rest would have met the same fate as the Romonovs,
That would have been justice for that barbaric regime.

Churchill on Lenins death and the people of Russia

"Their worst misfortune was his birth, their next worst his death"

to be replaced by Stalin.

The old line about Russian history -- "and then things got worse".

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If it wasn't for the USSR, would the western allies have won on the western front?

What a stupid question.

Is Western democracy more left wing than Russia now?

It will be if Corbychev and MousyDonnell get elected

yes the Russians did suffer heavy casualties and took the wind out Germany's sails.