Would they mention that is was Christians if they were attacked?

clever

Love the idea of you reading articles trying to find something to get offended by.



The fact that 2 people were scarred for life in (what seems) a racially motivated attack - nothing. The fact that their faith is mentioned when reporting it - OH MY GOD!!! WHEN WILL IT END!!!

exactly

Are there any attacks specifically aimed at Christians to be reported?
I don't think so. Which is why they're not.

but why mention their 'faith'  - it is pure stirring

(what seems) a racially motivated attack

How?

It's relevant because it appears they were targeted purely because of their faith. Not sure why it's stirring. Would have to be incredibly thin skinned to get anywhere within the galaxy of mildly annoyed that their faith was mentioned.

Not sure why you are asking the question moisok, as you already know the answer.

What is disturbing is why anyone would do this to anyone.

In other news


A man has been sent down for 6 months for racially aggravated common assault yesterday against 2 muslim women


and

The Finsbury Park mosque which saw a man murdered a couple of weeks ago has now been getting death threats posted to it, citing Rivers of Blood amongst other lovely terms.




Such happy times.

Remember this happening a few months ago and someone pointing out that it's currently not illegal to carry round acid so if you get caught holding the police can't do anything. Surely it'd be one of the most straight forward laws to pass. Do it now for god's sake.

The largest number of asid attacks in London occur  where ?  guess?

Guess where the most acid attacks occur in Landan?

London college of science?

You highlight a common assault and a death threat pp yet no mention of 22 people blown to pieces in Manchester or 8 hacked to death on London bridge ?

Oh ye happy times alright.

acid

typical snide remark from porky trying to cover up

STUDYFORM 01 Jul 17 20:40
Are there any attacks specifically aimed at Christians to be reported?
I don't think so. Which is why they're not.

.... erm... 9/11, 7/7, Paris, Iraq, Syria, the Yazidis, the shop-keeper in Glasgow, the priest in Rouen, Manchester, Brussels, the Coptic Christians in Egypt, Bonbay, Nice, Lockerbie, atrocities in the Philippines, Bali, Al-Shabab, Kenya (recite the Q'uran or die.... could go on ad-infinitum and apologies if I didn't mention them specifically here as they are almost innumerable.

The fact that many of the victims may have been atheist or agnostic or of any other religion is irrelevant. As far as the attackers were concerned they did not care so long as their victims were following a different belief system from their own from their own twisted sh1te indoctrination.

Hope that clarifies.

I am sadly just thinking of the campaign against christians by one group.  Don't mention the M word or the I word

You have to realise porky and study are the defenders of the faith - just waiting for the other one to pop up.

No. It doesn't.

As I intimated, these are all indiscriminate attacks.
ALL non-believers, soft targets, are targeted. This can even include other muslims.
Hope this clarifies

I must have missed something here study.   Surely it is their duty to convert those who don't believe or ............

Isn't that what every good M should do.

So the fact that you can't categorically say that the victims are Christians means that the horrific attack mentioned in the OP is different from the countless atrocities?

No. It doesn't.

As I intimated, these are all indiscriminate attacks.
ALL non-believers, soft targets, are targeted. This can even include other muslims.
Hope this clarifies

Yet we know these people were targeted solely on their faith even before anybody has even been arrested?

Cover up!!!


You get massively upset at a local newspaper mentioning a couple of muslim people getting burned by acid, try to divert it to which region etc and apparently it's me covering up?



Old - is it a competition? Do we have to reference every racially motivated attack as a game of football so we can see which side is winning? "Yes, their lives may have been ruined, they may have been wholly innocent people with no involvement in any naughtiness but it doesn't matter because some other muslim did something bad so we're allowed this one."

Clouseau - to be fair with your (somewhat inaccurate) list you do know that if someone was any way inclined they could point out the number of innocent people killed in Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria, killed indiscriminately based purely on the fact that they're local Muslims dwarfs whatever number you could come up with.

Did I anywhere defend or try to justify any attacks of any sort?
No I didn't.
Nor did I compare any with any others.

I'm just fed up with this non-stop crap garbage like "It's what every good M should do"

If anyone compares or justifies it's some of you lot if there's an attack on Muslims?
As was seen when the welsh geezer hired a van for the purpose.

Moisok, you live and breathe this stuff. I'm getting the feeling you need help.

PP give you're tiny biased brain (I'm being kind) a rest, FFS.

It is clearly elaborated in the Quran and subsequent hadiths. The duty of every good muslim is laid out for them.

You need to understand what makes a good muslim.

What makes a good christian moysey?

To be fair. There have been a few calls for reformation but these are Very few.

This was a car-jacking pure and simple using bleach to incapacitate the driver and totally unrelated to the acid attack, so why mention it in the article? That particular attack had been covered elsewhere at the time it happened.

This was a car-jacking pure and simple using bleach to incapacitate the driver and totally unrelated to the acid attack, so why mention it in the article? That particular attack had been covered elsewhere at the time it happened.

This was a car-jacking pure and simple using bleach to incapacitate the driver and totally unrelated to the acid attack, so why mention it in the article? That particular attack had been covered elsewhere at the time it happened.

moisok, this eejit should be shat on not discussed with, A typical Lefty living in the 'FREE WEST' allowed to spout  the shyyte that in the many countries he (thinks) he defends would behead him.

So all good muslims attack everyone else. Is that what you're saying?
It looks like that's what you're saying.

Does the Bible say similar stuff btw?
Have you read the Quran?
If so why?
If you haven't then you're not such an expert.

PP. you casually put out so many obfuscating things that are bullsh1t and nonsense that it is like trying to argue with every spark in a firework and deliberately side-tracks the matter in question.

Let's humour you by asking you to clarify one point... how is my list "somewhat inaccurate"?

the author of this piece is a guy who talked about the west living like animals in a rant on youtube    - anyway,  he goes on to deny the need for reformation

the author of this piece is a guy who talked about the west living like animals in a rant on youtube    - anyway,  he goes on to deny the need for reformation



https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/may/17/islam-reformation-extremism-muslim-martin-luther-europe

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/may/17/islam-reformation-extr...

Go and learn what a good muslim should do.  The quran and subsequent hadiths dictate how one should conduct their lives.
It has nothing to do with the bible.

Closeau - I'll give you a starter. Just because it's a saturday, I've got some nice music on and I love you really - try the Glasgow shopkeeper one again.

I don't fecking care and you're obsessed.
There's no reasoning with you.

It is clever.  It is insidious.  It sucks people in on the basis of victimisation and minority, which the fair minded liberal attitude of british people fall for.  They do not realise it is about the eradication of that liberal attitude which is one of its aims.
Check out their record.

This one?
A taxi driver from Bradford has been jailed for a minimum of 27 years for the “barbaric, premeditated” murder of a shopkeeper in Glasgow.

Tanveer Ahmed, from Toller, had admitted to repeatedly stabbing Asad Shah to death outside his shop in the Shawlands area of the city in March this year in a sectarian attack motivated by hatred of Shah’s religious views.


Glasgow murder of Asad Shah spurred by sectarianism in Pakistan
Read more
Ahmed, 32, a Sunni Muslim, confessed to confronting and then attacking Shah because the newsagent was an open adherent of the Ahmadi branch of Islam, which believes the prophet Muhammad was not the final Muslim prophet.

As he was led from the dock on Tuesday, Ahmed raised a clenched fist and shouted in Arabic: “Praise for the Prophet Muhammad, there is only one Prophet.” His cry was repeated by some supporters in the public gallery.

That fits into the "The fact that many of the victims may have been atheist or agnostic or of any other religion is irrelevant. As far as the attackers were concerned they did not care so long as their victims were following a different belief system from their own from their own twisted sh1te indoctrination." bit.

Any more? One at a time so we can cross them of neatly, please.

You have to understand that the british way of fair play and free speech cannot accommodate ideologies like nazism or this particular subject.

How very odd that you're now changing the frame of reference. Another little reminder for you sweetcheeks:

Are there any attacks specifically aimed at Christians to be reported?
I don't think so. Which is why they're not.

.... erm...

So you replied to a question about attacks on christians with a long list including this one. Clearly a muslim on muslim attack. But now that's included.



Seriously. How very odd. Gracious of you to just accept you made a mistake though. Fair play.

Meanwhile.  Whilst people chase the red herrings set off by porky  ..............the answer


IS

wait for it

NEWHAM

Clouseau, please stop pointing out the glaring obvious, you will never convert the weak, 'we love everyone' apologists who NEVER have to pay a price, but will justify a suicide bomber with their 'CAUSE'.

Moysey, how would you rank victims of acid attacks in order of importance?

For instance, rank in order of how much sympathy you'd have for a victim based on where it took place - a) Newham b) Chelsea c) Shepherds Bush d) Forest Green



I can follow it up and you can say how sympathetic you'd feel for a victim according to their religion or skin colour if you like.


Seeing as you've gone to the trouble of researching this kind of data I'm sure you're answers will be illuminating.

Like with all people who get hooked on their ideas.
You are of the belief that we all can't see it and only you have the message and the incessant ranting on here is only the latest phase...

If you're not careful, it'll get worse.

Meanwhile.............. this weekend two lots of terrorists from the 'I' faith have been arrested.

just saying

Yes, you generally are.

The very few people with radical understanding of the problem will be shouted down.  As explained, the british sense of fair play etc (the soft underbelly ) will condemn itself.

Acdid attacks are imported from India/Pakistan you Lefty twoots.

NEWHAM

HAVE YOU ANY IDEA OF THE HISTORICAL AND CURRENT ATTACKS IN ASIA THIS YEAR YOU FECKIN EEJITS.

foxy  - Newham is not ASIA!!!

consider yourself reprimanded!!!

oh hang on


errrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!

OOPPS, SORRY,

Jul 1, 2017 -- 3:57PM, moisok wrote:

The very few people with radical understanding of the problem will be shouted down.

AND???

I don't expect anyone saw the M accusing two alternative views being shouted at and declared as a danger etc by a M on bbc.
One which the bbc subsequently apologised for.   Of course it simply does not happen.

I actually typed
"SEE?"

but it didn't come out.
but the quote kind of proves my point.

foxy, I never suggested there weren't attacks anywhere!
They're terrible.... Car bombs in Kabul, at places all over the world in fact.

All I'm saying is they're almost entirely indiscriminate.

All I'm saying is they're almost entirely indiscriminate.

Surely that's the OP's point though that this attack which may be indiscriminate is by the mention of the victims religion being suggested as being because of a religious or ethnic hate motive which at this time there appears tto be no evidence to suggest it is. ?

STUDYFORM 01 Jul 17 22:19
foxy, I never suggested there weren't attacks anywhere!
They're terrible.... Car bombs in Kabul, at places all over the world in fact.

All I'm saying is they're almost entirely indiscriminate.

No they are targeted at people who do not have the exact same views as the perpetrator and therefore not worthy of living.

yes it is dreadful but many think it is fair game. Is that right?

Based on this article, this attack seems a simple car-jacking rather than targeted against the person. Obviously the one last week appears not to be though.

Obviously the one last week appears not to be though.

Why?

PP, give yourself a break FFS, you obviously need one, where the fck do you live??

Shrewd Dude is spot on.

The lefties couldn't see their noses in front of their faces of course and immediately entered their default mode of denial. Genuinely funny to see them backtrack now as the truth emerges.

Specific attacks on Christians:

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/10207/muslim-persecution-of-christians-january

13 countries.

Here's one horrific example:

Germany: A court heard how a 27-year-old Muslim intruder named Abubaker broke into the Heilbronn home of a 70-year-old Christian woman described as a "devout Catholic" and "regular churchgoer." He tied her up, abused her, placed a cross in her hands, and strangled her to death. Then he wrote "a series of Arabic and religious messages around the house" — including "It's payback time" in English — before stealing some items and fleeing the scene. The defendant — described as a "strict Muslim" — is of Pakistani descent and grew up in Saudi Arabia.

Again.
My post removed.

It hope that this makes whichever loser who reported it feel important.