Forums
Welcome to Live View – Take the tour to learn more
Start Tour
There is currently 1 person viewing this thread.
tobermory
22 Jun 17 20:52
Joined:
Date Joined: 01 Mar 08
| Topic/replies: 63,349 | Blogger: tobermory's blog
Recently a journalist pointed out that the Banksy murals appear in cities where Massive Attack have just played gigs.

Now the DJ Goldie was asked about Banksy and responded referring to him as 'Robert' , then realising his slip changed the subject....
Pause Switch to Standard View So Robert Del Naja of Massive Attack...
Show More
Loading...
Report Clouseau June 22, 2017 9:02 PM BST
tbf that bloke is a fecking genius and i have seen these rumours before.

Wouldn't surprise me at all.
Report Clouseau June 22, 2017 9:11 PM BST
Robert del Naja... responsible for Teardrops, Unfinished Sympathy, Mezzanine, Protection, and loads more.

I would love him to be Banksy but, typical of him if that's the case, he wanted to do it anonymously.

Shirley he would deny them if it wasn't he.
Report scandanavian_haven June 22, 2017 9:22 PM BST
Banksy was outed as Robin Gunningham years and years ago.
Report tobermory June 22, 2017 9:30 PM BST
Gunningham maybe a false lead deliberately put out there
Report scandanavian_haven June 22, 2017 9:43 PM BST
Could be but this theory it's Robert del naja is an old story from last year.
Report tobermory June 22, 2017 9:50 PM BST
As said Goldie referred to him as 'Robert' today.
Report Mc Moonbeam June 23, 2017 12:13 AM BST
Definitely not Robert del Naja .. his prints have been selling since day 1 for £75 -150 while Banksy's are now worth £7.5 - 40k   

I put Banksy art threads up years ago with scumbags like crags laughing at me ... i haven't got £300 ... no just prints worth 20k  .. WANKSY ???

anyway if anybody in the know actually knew all Roberts prints would've been long Gone !!
Report Mc Moonbeam June 23, 2017 12:25 AM BST
Massive attack are Bristol based ?? so makes sense .. huge Graff scene down there

Banksy also leaves a few every Glastonbury .. think he just likes cool gigs Cool
Report Mc Moonbeam June 23, 2017 12:31 AM BST
I've got a Robert del Naja print her now .. the classic massive attack cover .. telephone print .. might get it framed up soon

sold my Banksy's to the Rich elite !
Report Mc Moonbeam June 23, 2017 12:32 AM BST
i was buying Barcodes for £50


L O L
Report scandanavian_haven June 23, 2017 1:07 AM BST
9 months ago it was mooted it was him

http://time.com/4477257/banksy-robert-del-naja-massive-attack/
Report Mc Moonbeam June 23, 2017 1:24 AM BST
hmmm well i've follwed the scene from day 1 & it smells like the usual strory to keep people guessing to me .. though i'd laugh so lod if it was

funny though all Roberts prints have now gone ... he goes by the name of 3D

Not sure on the whole Robin Gunningham thing .. he was outed many years ago as a lone Bristol boy .. unearthed as his old house was exposed full of tags.

but not sure i buy it .. it could be true .. but Banksy is a Well Organised Group .. capable of paying off the highest statures of Law enforcement etc !!
Report tobermory June 23, 2017 11:48 PM BST
This was the case in favour summed up...

By Duarte Garrido, Entertainment Reporter


Banksy's secret identity might have been revealed in a radio interview in which DJ Goldie referred to the artist as "Robert".

The British DJ was talking to hip hop artist Scroobius Pip on his weekly podcast on Tuesday when he was asked about graffiti art being misunderstood.

"Give me a bubble letter and put it on a t-shirt and write 'Banksy' on it and we're sorted. We can sell it now," Goldie, a street artist himself, told Pip.

"No disrespect to Robert, I think he is a brilliant artist. I think he has flipped the world of art over."

Awkward silence, change of topic and the internet goes crazy with speculation.

Now, all paths are seemingly leading back to one man: Robert Del Naja, aka 3D.

The Massive Attack front man, a friend of Goldie's, had been linked to the anonymous artist in the past.

But the rumours died off as Del Naja swiftly denied the claims himself, telling a crowd of fans that "we are all Banksy".

"No, it's not true. But it's a worthy reminder what a bunch of delinquent ecstatic transgressors Massive Attack have always been, and how it was not so long ago that such subversive voices were carried through music before migrating more fully to visual culture," he said.

But we are not so easily put off, and have listed a few reasons why "Robert" could well be Del Naja.

1. The man is a former graffiti artist

Just check out all of Massive Attack albums' cover art. Del Naja did it all and you can clearly see his roots in street art:

In a rare interview, with Swindle magazine in 2008, Banksy told the story of when he first saw Del Naja's graffiti and was inspired by it.

"When I was about 10 years old, a kid called 3D was painting the street hard," he said.

"3D quit painting and formed the band Massive Attack, which may have been a good thing for him but was a big loss for the city."

Which takes us to...

2. The man is from Bristol

Massive Attack is a trip hop band from Bristol, formed in the late 1980s by Del Naja and Daddy G, former part of the Bristol club collective The Wild Bunch.
We know Banksy's from Bristol, and his work is tightly linked to the city's underground music scene.

3. Where one man goes, the other follows

This is perhaps the biggest clue of all.

Many before me have carefully traced Banksy's steps, following his works from San Francisco to the West Bank and Naples.

Glasgow journalist Craig Williams published a piece last year claiming Banksy, like the biblical Demon, is "not one, but many".

"What if Banksy is a group of people who have stencilling different locations both at home and abroad?," he asked.

The theory is that Banksy is in fact a collective of Massive Attack groupies who follow the band around, painting where they go.

The reasoning behind it is that wherever the group puts on a gig a Banksy mural mysteriously appears.

And then there is Naples...

4. The man loves Naples

"It's probably because my dad's Italian. He's a Napoli fan and was used to watching top-flight stuff," Del Naja told The Guardian.

"I didn't have an income back then so I couldn't go to matches and we hadn't been to see my family in Naples since I was little."

That's right: Del Naja has roots which tie him to the land of pizza.

Naples is the only Italian city where Banksy has done one of his works and, curiously enough, Del Naja's childhood teams are Bristol City... and Napoli.

5. The man has strong political views

Banksy is known for his social and political critiques. Most of his visual art is aimed at big corporations, right-wing politics and consumerism.

He is also in favour of a Palestinian state, having created the "worst view in the world" in the wall that separates Israel from the Palestinian territories.

Del Naja has repeatedly refused to play concerts in Israel in a stance against the Israeli government and its policies.

Convinced? If not, there are several other theories floating around.

These include a couple of men who have been arrested trying to impersonate Banksy, a parking attendant at Banksy's Dismaland, a French artist with a bad reputation and Robin Gunningham, a former public school boy who criminologists at London's Queen Mary University have profiled as being the elusive artist
Report Torquemada June 24, 2017 12:07 AM BST
That profiling exercise on Gunningham looked pretty convincing to me. I read that the profilers had access to some sort of anti-terrorism software which proved Gunningham was the only person present at various places around the world on the exact same days Banksy graffiti appeared. Referenced his passport records.
Report Mc Moonbeam June 24, 2017 12:26 AM BST
Very interesteing Toby

It all makes sense but what i'd say is who are all these 'Reporters'

1. The man is a former graffiti artist

3D's art & banksy's art are Very Different Animals!

2. The man is from Bristol

this is a Gimme!  like i say huge scene around there it's like the Graffiti Capital (not London) etc .

3. Where one man goes, the other follows

This is interesting

3D Massive attack have also been behind other bands movements .. like UNKLE (never really took off) and much likened to the artwork of FUTURA .. not Banksy !

but as i said last night the idea of a Strong Group of individuals makes Perfect sense !



Can't really comment on Naples etc .


but i've been a fan of Goldies since the beginning

I ACTUALLY WENT TO THE SAME SCHOOL AS HIM  Cool

though he was years older than me , but the West Midlands Graffiti scene was in full flow back in the early 90's

it's how i got into it all , actually have a current artist still thanks me for 'teaching him the way'

Walsall / Wolverhampton was his Bombing gound .. the guy was an absolute Legend


Makes me wonder if he dropped the name on purpose .. p1ssed off with all their 'fake success' .. Goldie was True Street artist in every sense of the word

all i can say is if he dropped the name the he is Robert !
Report zorrostrikes June 24, 2017 12:28 AM BST
stencils and photos. it's pish.
Report Mc Moonbeam June 24, 2017 12:32 AM BST
it's not .. Banksy is Genius

but as i say was not what Goldie was about

No doubt he knows everybody & anybody involved
Report Mc Moonbeam June 24, 2017 12:50 AM BST
this is one of the reasons i sold out of all my Banksy's years ago now

though wish i'd of held onto them , better than any stock, gold etc. you could hope to buy !

but must be hundreds that know who's involved .. not to mention his Greedy agent Steve Lazerides (who actually promotes a number of Artists) Wink
Report zorrostrikes June 24, 2017 1:19 AM BST
stencils decoupage. elderly craft work, except for rye content.
go look at real art.
Report Mc Moonbeam June 24, 2017 1:23 AM BST
Real art ... like Lowry

Got his books & an original .. sold a few too ... nice but quite boring Grin
Post Your Reply
<CTRL+Enter> to submit
Please login to post a reply.

Wonder

Instance ID: 13539
www.betfair.com