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05 Jun 17
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are we really going to let 4 people from a population of 63 million divide us
Most muslims are not doing this, it's 0.00000000000000000000001% of the population
perspective people, perspective. And stay calm, don't be reactionary, it's what they want.
are we really going to let 4 people from a population of 63 million divide us
Most muslims are not doing this, it's 0.00000000000000000000001% of the population
perspective people, perspective. And stay calm, don't be reactionary, it's what they want.
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You are quite right. I think we should get out on the streets in VERY large numbers. That would be a good idea.
Again you are right. Only a tiny minority are involved. There have only been 2 successful attacks and 5 foiled ones in the last couple of weeks. Not many at all as a number is it. Slightly larger figures but only small again as put out by the security services. 500 plots, 3000 jihadis and 20,000 on their radar. still only a small proportion You are absolutely correct. |
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People do not realise how fragile a good country, even a once great country like Britain is.
It is not possible to unite people who do not share the same values, and only by seperation can there be peace and progress . This has been the history of mankind . |
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The other number also quite small 4 million. Not that many really in the scheme of things. But what is the scheme?
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BEYOND PARODY…
By David Vance | June 5, 2017 | BBC bias Only on the BBC. A muslim woman in full niqab explains why we need integration. BBC lap it up. The BBC is a MENACE, an enabler and a real and present danger to our society. Would be Prime Minister Corbyn has spend his political career voting AGAINST anti terrorist legislation. He has spent his political career condemning “shoot to kill”. But now, four days ahead of an election, he suggests he supports it. What an unspeakable liar. Oh, and one last thing, over this horrific weekend, the women who would be in charge of our security if Labour were to be elected, Diane Abbott, has not been seen on ANY TV or Radio channel. Why? I am told Labour advisers realise that she is a media disaster so best keep her away. Yet she IS Shadow Home Secretary and would be in control of Policing from next Monday. As it is, she is in hiding. |
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The numbers you need to know: Population UK by religion: Muslim 4.6%. Terrorist attacks UK by religion: Muslim 100%. Of course it's nothing to do with Islam, it's just that it's always the Muslims. And when they quote the peaceful bit in the Quran, get them to quote Quran 8:12!
The BBC has sent the Muslim winner of Bake Off with an ALL MUSLIM CREW to film in Mecca! BBC-vested interests. Covering its back for the inevitable arrival of the Islamic Republic of Britain. I been warning on here for years. |
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Again.
Confusing diversity/political correctness with the Labour Party. The BBC is run by and for the Tories - it always has. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to somehow blame Corbyn for this. Actually, fwiw, Abbott would almost definitely not be in charge to further ruin the very thing May has ruined over the last 7 years. I thought you were a resident of India, Slicer? Mostly Hindu, I know, but not GB nonetheless. |
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David Vance on BBC Bias, on a blog called BBC bias.
No bias there then. |
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What has my residency got to do with having an opinion? There are many reasons not to vote Labour. The inability of Jezza Dustbin to remove Ken "Let em all in " Livingstone from the party is just one!
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It's ok we got Bobby back on the beat
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Which one is Bobby please?
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Just watched a policeman in the met - Commander for Engagement - stood with all his pals. His first concern was hate crime and ilsmaphobia.
He was incredulous that these three were not reported by those in the community whilst engaged in arranging this attack!! He finds it hard that those in the community were not able to report their activity. But at least one was 2 years ago etc etc. What I want to know is what on earth are taxpayers paying money into a system and we have something called a COMMANDER FOR ENGAGEMENT. What on earth is this all about. I have said many times they are everywhere. And people think there will be action taken over this and other related terror problems. Do not hold your breath. |
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The Dancing Copper
I wonder if Tesco workers can do this when kids come in for sweets it would be so welcoming for them |
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For the past 7 years, indeed, for the past 50 years over half of which was under Conservative governments immigration has grown to where it is now.
Most isn't from the EU, but the Brexit vote was in large part to quell immigration. Now we're starting to realise that most of the non-indigenous population is not European. So - no cure by vote there. Now we're being told - for no good reason - that it "would be worse under Labour" which is BS, why has immigration not reduced for the last 7 years then? What's happening now has nothing to do with wrongly perceived, wrongly reported, Labour ideals. It is at least as much to do with current government as it is with your abject fear of a Labour one. The anti-Labour stuff knows no bounds and as always starts with Tory campaigning. |
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Good to see a nice photo of a multicultural City
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The Polish etc have been all but forgotten i wonder who they vote for
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All police officers should carry guns. If this were the case on Saturday then I feel this catastrophe could have been lessened. The officer who shot the 3 dead is suspended until the investigation is over, that shows the seriousness of drawing a weapon and should only be used in life or death situations. There is not a chance he will be punished but it also stops police from shooting anyone like they tend to do in the US.
If the police that got injured had a gun each then many lives could have been saved. Fighting a 12" blade with a drop of pepper spray just won't cut it against this vile scum. |
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at 70 grand at upwards worth every penny for the taxpayers of london - engagement working well
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Ovalman i wouldn't like them to be introduced to my area
They would probably test them out on a few unsuspecting dog walkers |
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Here in NI all police are armed and the incidents where a weapon has been used is virtually zero. Police know the seriousness of using it. Just read on the BBC News that there is no plans to arm police even though it could have saved lives. It could have stopped the other van attack from 3 months ago a bit sooner. How many of these attacks will it take?
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The Isreali's take no sht and respond by wiping 10x of them out, innocent or not.
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"Stand together and unite" are just empty words not going to stop the train coming down the track.
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One cannot condone the killing of innocent civilians. But there are 23 thousand not so innocent muslims in the UK known to the authorities. Nothing is done until after the attacks. It's easy to be smug when it's not your mother/sister/daughter etc being murdered, raped or having their throats cut by the followers of the Religion of Peace. Can't tag or intern them coz of human rights. Didn't the victims have human rights. There are more terrorist attacks in the UK these days than Israel. So it looks like whatever Israel is doing is working!
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Theresa May says enough is enough....
Runs in the next at Gowran Park |
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Slicer 05 Jun 17 15:15
Has anyone noticed these Muslims don't bother to attack synagogues or Jews, who are their mortal enemy, Basically there is proper security outside all synagogues & Jewish Schools hence its not a soft target by any means so they look elsewhere to cause havoc |
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I have to tell you you are wrong. Not too long ago, in one of my investigative roles, I was retained to carry out an investigation. Just in case there are any Jihadists reading this, I will not go into any details. I have visited friends recently in North West London and walked down a road containing predominately Jewish shops and delis. I was astounded. Let's leave it at that!
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Mecca- How can Theresa May be running at Gowran Park when she should be electioneering!
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"We must stand together and unite"
This from a man who hates, and regularly disparages, half his own countrymen.  |
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Pedantic, blank.
It was a PROMISE at the last election, or was it the one before that? that we would have immigration in the TENS of thousands... Didn't happen, did it? There was less of an issue before then to address immigration. So given that it has only been regarded as this huge a problem since 2010, Labour aren't entirely to blame are they? Still, let's not blame the Tories for anything, eh? The sort of BS xenophobia, Slicer is what causes problems not solves them. If any Jihadists are reading this.....  Lets hope we don't get invaded from outer space. The Muslims will side with the Aliens and the Jews won't know who to support and Corbyn won't intercept or zap them with anything. The Dole scroungers will have all the di-lithium crystals if they leave the craft for too long. Actually scrap that. It'll probably be an invite by John McDonnell. |
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You mentioned Synagogues I say there is good security then you diverse saying I'm wrong by mentioning Jewish Shops and Delis I can only answer what you put in front of me, synagogues have good security on that I am NOT wrong.
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Has anyone noticed these Muslims don't bother to attack synagogues or Jews
Maybe not in the UK but it happens on the Continent. Remember the attack on the Jewish supermarket in Paris where four Jewish hostages were killed, a couple of days after the Charlie Hebdo attack. |
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Study and Pumphol- don't get upset with me. There are things that I will not discuss or divulge on an open forum. Pumphol- I can tell you the same applies to certain synagogues. I KNOW this to be true. Study- If telling the truth is xenophobic and racist, then I am both. I can understand why YOU might vote labour from many of your postings on here. But YOU really should not. Let's leave it at that, because we all know how we would like things to be, but in reality they are far different. I have developed high opinions of you both over the years on here and know you won't stoop to personal insults!
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Mr Nick- I was referring to the UK!
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When i mentioned that isolation could be a good strategie to adopt(in relation to our involvement in wars on american requests), I was told we in the west have a moral obligation to spread the same values that have made us successful. We were in Iraq to liberate the people from tyranny. We were in Afghanistan because 'western civilisation was attacked' on 9/11. Dont know what the excuse was in Libya.
The very same people who were defending these wars are now bent on solving the issues with a 1400 year old religion, a religion that has been sucessfully used to scare them(and surely recruit them in near future for the next war).All it took for these champions of western supremacy was a couple attacks at home and they didn't like it. You cannot chagne Islam. You cannot convince their followers to do anything else. Its not in your control so stop whining about it. Stop proving how bad Islam is because even if you do convince people how bad it is, it is as a matter of fact still the largest growing religion in the world and in a couple decades a majority religion in some EU countries. What you can do however is make decisions as a nation that help to counter the issues. 1. The politicians today aren't listening to your issues. 2. The EU as a whole has imported the very people you blame for your problems(and still doing it). 3. The politicians are still happily registering more refugees whose benefits are paid from your pocket but who's payment from the UN go into the politicians' pockets. 4. Your government is still selling weapons to the very source of the islamic problem. None of the above 4 is Islam's fault. You are all whining about the wrong issues. When you are done proving how bad Islam is, and how it wants to kill you all, you've still got the above factors to deal with. How do we plan to change that? |
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what is the chance of any jihadists reading this especially when they are such small numbers
lets look at these small numbers 3 actual killing attacks, 5 attacks prevented in last 2 weeks, 500 plots currently under investigation, 3000 jihadists in the country and 23000 on the list all small numbers thank goodness. I will do a godwin's law on you and say it only took a minority to wrest power in a certain country. How many others are there sheltering them and quietly supporting them? |
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That is very well put, detraveller.
An issue has been OUR system going back 50 and more years. Impossible to check birth certificates and allowing poor people in because they had the relevant passport, people who would then go on to take advantage of the system. Thing is, we would probably all do the same in their position. However, there might just be a difference between the terrible muslimist fanaticism and terrorism, and immigration. As I keep saying and it IS a bit worrying. The generating of mass hatred towards millions of people of a different religion is the thin end of the wedge. Do we really think that it's because there are millions of Muslims in Europe that there are so many atrocities? Do we think that they are in it together? |
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I think the OP has lost all sense of perspective. The perspective came from the first reply.
Stay calm is the only bit I'd agree with from the OP. You don't react by pandering to Muslim sensibilities. |
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it is actually the even larger numbers that will be the problem
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as well as gold plated pensions/jobs for life,huge house price inflation,the real golden egg for the older generation is that they,ve managed to live most of their life ,school,work,nights days out etc, without having the workings and words of muslim,islam rammed down their throats 24/7 ,including me 99% of non muslims could if allowed to, live quite happily without meeting,,hearing,talking to,listening to or working alongside a muslim
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