I think he was pointing out that by the age of 10, Muslims know the Quran backwards, and many believe we are the enemy, Bm. Would we allow such teachings in Christan churches, or all our schools? Of course not, it would be total lunacy, but we allow Mosques to do their dirty work.
I think he was pointing out that by the age of 10, Muslims know the Quran backwards, and many believe we are the enemy, Bm. Would we allow such teachings in Christan churches, or all our schools? Of course not, it would be total lunacy, but we allow
It does seem the Bomber didn't identify himself as being British even though he was brought up here and what had happened to his Fathers country became more important than pursuing a normal life in the U.K.
It does seem the Bomber didn't identify himself as being British even though he was brought up hereand what had happened to his Fathers country became more important than pursuing a normal life inthe U.K.
It does seem the Bomber didn't identify himself as being British even though he was brought up here and what had happened to his Fathers country became more important than pursuing a normal life in the U.K.
He murdered children because others told him it was a good thing to do. See CLYDEBANK's post ^^
BreedingmadIt does seem the Bomber didn't identify himself as being British even though he was brought up hereand what had happened to his Fathers country became more important than pursuing a normal life inthe U.K.He murdered children because others
I see that nothing has changed. Another thread about how the muslims are crazy. Yet nothing about how the govt is clearly not interested in protecting you. When will you people wake up to the obvious? Or is it too hard to see past the hatred for Islam?
Its Ramzan in a few days isn't it? Can we switch to whining about how they don't want to see anyone eat in public during the month? Surely their must be some like that in the UK?
I see that nothing has changed. Another thread about how the muslims are crazy. Yet nothing about how the govt is clearly not interested in protecting you. When will you people wake up to the obvious? Or is it too hard to see past the hatred for Isla
Good muslims are quite comfortable with others eating in public during Ramadhan, it is only the weak and self pitying type that have chips on their shoulders that whinge. I have lived there and shown respect and got it back,all it needs is common sense on both sides but we should not jump to appease the whingers and changeour way of life for the sake of cultural cohesion every time.
Good muslims are quite comfortable with others eating in public during Ramadhan, it is only the weak and self pitying type that have chips on their shoulders that whinge. I have lived there and shown respect and got it back,all it needs is common sen
And for those worried about how a 10 year old muslim hating the west, here is some food for thought.
Last Friday night, Italy saved over 2000 migrants from drowning. Now you may think that's bad, but there's more. The Libyan coastguards actually opened fire on the rescuers. So basically the italians were so close to Libyan territory that they had to worry about Libyan coastguards. And so desperate that despite the fire, they eventually managed to rescue all. That's how desperately the EU needs these people.
Now you can make your own mind whom to hate, the muslims or your own govts, but at least wake up to the fact that your own govts have left no stone unturned in ensuring what you see today. Or am i mistaken?
And for those worried about how a 10 year old muslim hating the west, here is some food for thought.Last Friday night, Italy saved over 2000 migrants from drowning. Now you may think that's bad, but there's more. The Libyan coastguards actually opene
The rescuers are propelled by the liberal elite in Brussels and the media,caught between a rock and a hard place behaving with common decency as they get fired on by Libyan guns.And these people are so quick to condemn colonialism,I bet many of the poorest would happily exchange current governments for stability and safety.
The rescuers are propelled by the liberal elite in Brussels and the media,caught between a rock and a hard place behaving with common decency as they get fired on by Libyan guns.And these people are so quick to condemn colonialism,I bet many of the p
ive actually said about our Government doing nothing to protect us the other day,that we were going down to same route as the germans,that people are told to carry on the same,to be tolerate,NO REPLYS!
ive actually said about our Government doing nothing to protect us the other day,that we were going down to same route as the germans,that people are told to carry on the same,to be tolerate,NO REPLYS!
Ive been saying it for two years after i myself worked near a refugee registration centre and got to talk to a lot of refugees.
Its needless to repeat those stories. People have made up their minds that islam wants to wipe them off the face of the earth and the govt is making full use of that.
Ive been saying it for two years after i myself worked near a refugee registration centre and got to talk to a lot of refugees.Its needless to repeat those stories. People have made up their minds that islam wants to wipe them off the face of the ear
Well, if Islamic radicals didn't keep on trying to do that we might start to ease up det ?It's rather like the hundred years or so when catholics and protestants killed each other with passion,all in the name of God, that will eventually cut the Islamic hold on the asian poor.You just have to love all these preacher men.
Well, if Islamic radicals didn't keep on trying to do that we might start to ease up det ?It's rather like the hundred years or so when catholics and protestants killed each other with passion,all in the name of God, that will eventually cut the Isla
It's East Timor that was the catalyst for Al Qaeda and ISIS.
“The separation of East Timor from Indonesia is a Zionist-Crusader war against the Muslims. In 24 hours, and under a threat by the UN, compelled Indonesia to let East Timor go.” – Osama bin Laden
By: Serge Trifkovic
The Left (not to mention the Islamists) never tires of depicting the War on Terror as a case of America vs. Islam. But as readers of this magazine will already know, Moslem fundamentalists have been brutalizing people all over the world for years, and 9/11 was just our belated introduction to the problem. Take, for example, the murderous terror of Indonesian Muslims against Christians in East Timor, mostly unknown in America although Washington aided and abetted it.
East Timor is the eastern end of Timor Island, part of the vast archipelago that today makes up the island state of Indonesia. Originally a Portuguese colony, — it was one of the famous “spice islands” — it became a tempting morsel for the military government of neighboring Indonesia when the Portuguese empire collapsed in a bloodless military coup in 1975. Indonesia did not have any valid claim to it, but President Gerald Ford and Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, who were visiting Jakarta, nevertheless approved the Indonesian invasion of the former Portuguese on December 7, 1975. They only asked that the attack be delayed until after their departure.
Kissinger told reporters that “the United States understands Indonesia’s position on the question of East Timor” and the U.S. abstained in the subsequent U.N. vote condemning the invasion. As then-US Ambassador to the UN Daniel Patrick Moynihan said, “The United States wished things to turn out as they did, and worked to bring this about. The Department of State desired that the United Nations prove utterly ineffective in whatever measures it undertook. This task was given to me, and I carried it forward with no inconsiderable success.” Suharto was delighted to have received U.S. support for the invasion because of the Indonesian army’s reliance on American weaponry that, by U.S. law, could only be used for defensive purposes.
The East Timorese did not want to be forcibly incorporated into Indonesia, and an insurgency ensued. Washington continued to supply arms to Indonesia that were obviously not meant for general defense purposes, but specifically chosen to meet the needs of a counterinsurgency campaign. Through two and a half subsequent years of that campaign – leading to the death of about a third of the population – The New York Times ran only two brief stories about “the problem of East Timorese refugees.”
President Suharto’s carnage was on a scale worthy of Pol Pot. By 1989, Amnesty International estimated that Indonesia had murdered 200,000 East Timorese out of a population of 600,000-700,000.
Indonesia’s treatment of religious minorities had already been tested in West Papua. Suharto’s anticommunist credentials enabled him to preserve the support of the U.S. government while he terrorized the inhabitants of Dutch New Guinea, which was handed over to Indonesia in 1962 and its name changed to Irian Jaya, Victorious Irian. The tribal people of West Papua had nothing in common with Indonesia, except that both had previously been ruled by Holland. They are Melanesians and not Indo-Malays, and Christians or animists. Indonesia is an ethnically-diverse nation – frankly, an object lesson in the follies of multiculturalism — consisting of a dominant and expansionist over-populated Javanese core that holds onto its other territories by force.
Under Suharto the army rounded up all the children from the Christian missions and forced them to attend state schools. Passive resistance to Indonesian control was widespread and zealous Muslim officers responded by ordering soldiers to kill the villagers’ pigs, an important element in their basic economy. They soon proceeded to killing people: by September 1973, over 30,000 civilians had been killed by Indonesian troops, the number rising to an estimated 100,000 by 1990.
In the motivation patterns and perceptions of the actors on the ground, killers and victims alike, East Timor was an Islamic jihad against Christian infidels, identical in form and purpose to other tragedies caused by Islam’s insatiable appetite for other people’s lands, property, bodies, and souls. Dili’s bishop, Mgr. Coste Lopez, later stated: “The soldiers who landed started killing everyone they could find. There were many dead bodies in the streets.” They had been told that they were fighting a jihad and whole villages, for example Remexio and Aileu, were slaughtered.
In Dili hundreds of the ethnic Chinese minority were shot and thrown off the wharf into the sea. In Maubara and Luiquica, the entire Chinese populations were wiped out. Nineteen ships were moored in Dili harbor to remove looted cars, radios, furniture, tractors and whatever else could be ransacked. Churches and the seminary were looted and their books burnt. Many priests had moved to the hills with their flocks and were able to report on the massacres of children in Lospalos, Viqueque, Amoro and Sumalai. Priests were beaten, churches invaded and their congregations arrested. By November 1976, the death toll had reached 100,000. The military focused on the more educated strata of Timorese seminarians, teachers, nurses and public officials.
Australian Consul to East Timor, James Dunn, reported that East Timorese refugees were not even safe in West Timor: two thousand men, women and children had been burnt or shot to death at Lamaknan. At the concentration camp on Atauro island, the prisoners were given one small can of corn per person per week. They had to supplement this with leaves, roots or whatever else they could find. Punishment for listening to foreign broadcasts or speaking in Portuguese included beatings, burning with cigarettes on face and genitals, electric shock, water immersion and the removal of toe nails.
Once East Timor was out of the way the next target was the Christian minority in Indonesia itself. In 1999-2000 the persecution, destruction of property, and killing of Indonesia’s Christians amounted a deliberate campaign of religious cleansing, actively abetted by the Indonesian military, which is overwhelmingly Muslim. Independent television footage has proved that there have been numerous instances of soldiers, marines and police taking sides.
The worst atrocities were committed on the island of Ambon, where an upsurge in violence followed the arrival of 2,000 Laskar Jihad members—a militant Moslem force determined to join the ‘holy war’ against the Christians on the island—from Java and South Sulawesi. Indonesian soldiers sent to the Molucca Islands were fighting alongside militant Muslims, leading to calls by the Christians for a neutral UN peacekeeping force. Most of the fighting took place around the city of Ambon. Violence in North Halmahera has resulted in up to 100,000 people fleeing their homes for the jungles and mountains.
In the face of the Muslims’ better co-ordination, and signs that the Indonesian armed forces aided (or at least not prevented) Muslim attacks, the Christians were in disarray. The campaign of anti-Christian violence finally abated in 2001, after Muslim migrants from the overpopulated islands of Java and Sulawesi had been well established in the homes and on the lands of expelled Christians.
Incidents like those that took place in East Timor seem trivial to most Americans when they read their morning newspapers. But hopefully, people are gradually learning that these incidents, which have been happening – and continue to happen – all over the world, are all pieces of the larger problem of Islam’s inability to establish benign political relations with the rest of the world. A world which includes us. And they reinforce the crucial lesson that this whole situation is not something America created or is America’s fault. Islam is unique among the civilizations of the world today in terms of its inability to get along with others.
Serge Trifkovic received his PhD from the University of Southampton in England and pursued postdoctoral research at the Hoover Institution at Stanford. His past journalistic outlets have included the BBC World Service, the Voice of America, CNN International, MSNBC, U.S. News & World Report, The Washington Times, the Philadelphia Inquirer, The Times of London, and the Cleveland Plain Dealer. He is foreign affairs editor of Chronicles.
It's East Timor that was the catalyst for Al Qaeda and ISIS.“The separation of East Timor from Indonesia is a Zionist-Crusader war against the Muslims. In 24 hours, and under a threat by the UN, compelled Indonesia to let East Timor go.” – Osam
I've begun to realise that our general values in the west (freedom of speech, women & men equality, freedom to follow any religion/be an aetheist, democracy) is totally incompatible with certain religions.
We should ask any body who follows and wants to keep following an intolerant religion that doesn't espouse our broad freedoms to leave our country.
If they choose not to we should shoot them.... no need to close mosques, synogogues, worship halls, churches etc.
I've begun to realise that our general values in the west (freedom of speech, women & men equality, freedom to follow any religion/be an aetheist, democracy) is totally incompatible with certain religions.We should ask any body who follows and wants
My daughter reminded me yesterday, after seeing gays flogged in Ache, that as a child I took her to the bank to pay her pocket money into a Tsunami appeal for the same people.
My daughter reminded me yesterday, after seeing gays flogged in Ache, that as a child I took her to the bank to pay her pocket money into a Tsunami appeal for the same people.
Close Mosques that would exacerbate the problem you would produce even more terrorists.
- So if we close their places of worship and learning they would become even more violent? What a lovely bunch they are!!
Kind of proves the point that they are not welcome here.
Breedingmad26 May 17 10:06Close Mosques that would exacerbate the problem you would produce even more terrorists.- So if we close their places of worship and learning they would become even more violent? What a lovely bunch they are!!Kind of proves t
A lobotomy and vasectomy would cure the problem for radicals including that 10 year old. It's the only humane solution.
I'm listening to "The Complete Infidels Guide to Isis" and it gets more worrying the more I listen. These brainwashed bastards are totally convinced of paradise and virgins if they commit these crimes, they are brainwashed from a very young age.
I'm deadly serious on this BTW.
A lobotomy and vasectomy would cure the problem for radicals including that 10 year old. It's the only humane solution.I'm listening to "The Complete Infidels Guide to Isis" and it gets more worrying the more I listen. These brainwashed bastards are
Meanwhile, in Egypt today 28 Christians murdered by something called 'militants'. Perish the thought that this atrocity had anything to do with any Peaceful Religions out there. Still, I expect someone will read a poem later on which will make things
Is brainwashing of children allowed in all cultures in the UK, Ovalman? I seriously have no idea.
My daughter's best friend at around 7 years old was half Pakistani. Her mother is a white chav and the father rather dubious, he did insist Yasmin go to Islamic school after regular school. They tried and failed to make her learn that book off by heart. She was hit on the hand with a stick every time she made a mistake.
Is brainwashing of children allowed in all cultures in the UK, Ovalman? I seriously have no idea.My daughter's best friend at around 7 years old was half Pakistani. Her mother is a white chav and the father rather dubious, he did insist Yasmin go to
I'm sure my view on the situation doesn't need repeating yet again however i'm horrified by the words of the 10 year old. Whilst the liberal luv a muzzie brigade will queue up to attack me, if we don't take drastic action to identify and deal with the bad uns we as a Christian nation will be lost forever. Perhaps if we'd taken a leaf out of King Herod's book this 10 year old future terrorist wouldn't exist.
I'm sure my view on the situation doesn't need repeating yet again however i'm horrified by the words of the 10 year old. Whilst the liberal luv a muzzie brigade will queue up to attack me, if we don't take drastic action to identify and deal with th
The Al Jazeera documentary ISIL: Target Russia, which was just on was quite interesting, interviews conducted with ISIL commanders in Northern Afghanistan as well as others. The ISIL lot certainly seem totally hellbent on world domination, but as the reporter stated, if their soldiers weren't paid they wouldn't fight, they earn twice what an Afghan soldier does. If anything it showed how hopeless the whole situation is and how protracted it's going to be, Russia and America are as culpable as the terrorist groups, all goading and using each other, all murdering innocents.
The Al Jazeera documentary ISIL: Target Russia, which was just on was quite interesting, interviews conducted with ISIL commanders in Northern Afghanistan as well as others. The ISIL lot certainly seem totally hellbent on world domination, but as th
The US armed the Iraqi army. ISIS with 10% of the fighters routed the Iraqi army from Mosul and took all the arms from them. Who needs money?
ISIS are the most well non state funded army in the World but I think the UK, US, Russia, China and others could wipe most of them out at a whim but we don't. Why? Because war is business and the UK is the 2nd biggest arms dealers in the World.
STOP SUPPLYING ARMS FOR THEM TO USE AGAINST US!!!
The US armed the Iraqi army. ISIS with 10% of the fighters routed the Iraqi army from Mosul and took all the arms from them. Who needs money?ISIS are the most well non state funded army in the World but I think the UK, US, Russia, China and others co
IS shoot 50 christians in Egypt, at least 25 dead including children on a bus, it will go on and on.
I am sure Jeremy Corbyn could explain this is all down to the West bombing arab countries if he was given time.
IS shoot 50 christians in Egypt, at least 25 dead including children on a bus, it will go on and on. I am sure Jeremy Corbyn could explain this is all down to the West bombing arab countries if he was given time.
scandanavian_haven They are actually asking the question on TV "Is Corbyn right to link terrorist attacks in the UK to UK military action abroad"......Jesus H Christ.
So was it responsible for the attacks in Sweden or Spain or Egypt? Not the sharpest are you.
scandanavian_haven They are actually asking the question on TV "Is Corbyn right to link terrorist attacks in the UK to UK military action abroad"......Jesus H Christ.So was it responsible for the attacks in Sweden or Spain or Egypt? Not the sharpest
aka he is right in away. If the developed world had stood idly by and let the genocide of non muslims in East Timor continue, then Al Qaeda wouldn't have bombed Bali and 9/11 wouldn't have happened. If we stand idly by when ISIS butchers non muslims, and even moderate muslims in Syria and Iraq, then perhaps (although I doubt it) their weak minded followers might stop blowing themselves and us up. More likely if we stood idly by in Syria the genocide in that country would be on a much greater scale than East Timor considering the size of the population. If we'd have stood idly by while Hitler exterminated the Jews, then we might have been allies and spared German bombing (there were plenty of UK citizens who espoused such a view). Although I think it's more likely that had we not got involved, the Nazis would've just waited until they were strong enough to roll us over too.
I say long may our foreign policy continue. It's just a pity that too many people in this country are so naive and deluded.
aka he is right in away. If the developed world had stood idly by and let the genocide of non muslims in East Timor continue, then Al Qaeda wouldn't have bombed Bali and 9/11 wouldn't have happened. If we stand idly by when ISIS butchers non muslim
Integration. Now there is a word to ponder. I wonder how many muslims were killed in this attack in integrated manchester. Anyone know. I certainly don't.
Integration. Now there is a word to ponder. I wonder how many muslims were killed in this attack in integrated manchester. Anyone know. I certainly don't.
This is good news. So for them to integrate we only have to change a few things. If we cut out the pop music, cover women's heads, and their arms and legs. Ban gays from parties and events. (and trannies). No alcohol to be served. Ban any apostates(cos it might upset them). NO CROSSES to be worn. Make sure you don't invite shia and sunni to same event.
AND THEN WE CAN HAVE AN INTEGRATED PARTY YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS I have solved the problem.
This is good news. So for them to integrate we only have to change a few things. If we cut out the pop music, cover women's heads, and their arms and legs. Ban gays from parties and events. (and trannies). No alcohol to be served. Ban any apostates(
And that (Corbyn) is linked to this thread???. Have a nice glass of warm milk I'm sure that will help.
Oh I see now, appeasers are us, sorry a bit slow this morning.
And that (Corbyn) is linked to this thread???. Have a nice glass of warm milk I'm sure that will help. Oh I see now, appeasers are us, sorry a bit slow this morning.
My friend mr corbyn will be visiting you shortly after his election as Great Leader.
boxing and saddo - go to the naughty stepyou are not taking me seriouslyMy friend mr corbyn will be visiting you shortly after his election as Great Leader.
I think you haven't gone far enough. No more bacon or sausages for breakfast. No more selfies (the height of immoral self indulgence) indeed no more portraits or photos of loved ones, not on display anyway.
I think you haven't gone far enough. No more bacon or sausages for breakfast. No more selfies (the height of immoral self indulgence) indeed no more portraits or photos of loved ones, not on display anyway.
I will bang on about THIS point many times in the future too.
It will take around 20,000 per constituency to gain hegemony.
It has already happened in some places. It takes time but there are elements, NOW, who want to ditch the
peaceful takeover. I had thought it was a simple matter of the demographic change that would swing it
I hope I am not wrong.
boxing - several times.I will bang on about THIS point many times in the future too.It will take around 20,000 per constituency to gain hegemony.It has already happened in some places. It takes time but there are elements, NOW, who want to ditch th
"Bank Holiday security ramped up as agencies monitor 23,000 terror suspects" it says. We have been told it is 3,000 recently, which is nearer the truth I wonder. If I was living very close to one I would want to know.
"Bank Holiday security ramped up as agencies monitor 23,000 terror suspects" it says. We have been told it is 3,000 recently, which is nearer the truth I wonder. If I was living very close to one I would want to know.