Douglas Murray -Strange Death of Europe

He's not wrong.

Wasn't this part of George Osbourne's vision for a great Northern Pakorahouse

Which - "people expect them to defend."  - "the historic Christian values." ?
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Well, well, over 90% of the population do NOT attend Church.

The vast majority of those are probably, in reality, agnostic

The vast majority of those KNOW that outdated, daft, religious beliefs, and consequent conflicts, are the cause for the majority of those seeking to leave their homelands.

If the vast majority of our team can see sense - why should we 'accommodate' their misguided nonsense?

onlooker - do you seriously disregard the influence and legacy of the Christian Reformation?

Would you prefer Christendom NOT to have influenced countless nations? Why do you think all cultures, every one of them, have patrons who seek a home in Christianised nations?

How many Europeans or Americans seek a life in communist countries or ones dominated by dictators (the ultimate humanists)?

Notice how many Muslims leave the UK for pilgrammage to Mecca. How many stay there?!

It's culcheral innit!!!

Ps  it has very little to do with religion - it is all about power, money and landgrab.

So called religions like islam are typical of this.  A pure invention by one man to unite/combine various groups under one banner with rules and excused to consolidate his power.

Once can say similar about others of course.

Soon you will be prevented of any discourse about the cult as it will be moderated or be illegal when Tereason May gets here way.
She wants sharia incorporated into english law.
Check out the new proposals for online comments etc.

A truly essential, definitive book which becomes ever more relevant in the light of the appalling events overnight.

Needles to say, there was one British publication which sought to paint it otherwise.

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https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/may/06/strange-death-europe-immigration-xenophobia

the guardian supports islam 
and it rarely opens a comments column on anything related to it except to praise headscarf wearing

Lets go back to fish n chips ...ah the good old days..

fisal islam saying this is the first SERIOUS incident since 2005 - so I guess the westminster terror car crash/killing of policeman too, was not serious - usual playing it down from him  - the clue is in the name of course

Your Cheer Leader is in trouble..
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/manchester-bombing-katie-hopkins-final-solution-muslims-arena-terror-attack-phillip-schofield-a7750656.html

This is The Independent's 'solution' to the problem of Islamic Terrorism in the UK. Do nothing. Carry on as before.

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https://mobile.twitter.com/Independent/status/866851350394671104

yes right along with all your apologist rubbish for islam, bleeding, they are more concerned over a tweet than 70 people being blown to bits and a solution is needed but nothing will happen
like wise others are more worried about a backlash and xenophobia

That's amazing that. More fury from some quarters directed against a journalist for a slip of the tongue, than the person and suchlike she was referring to who has just killed 22 people.

It's easy to see how we got into this mess.

Nihal Arthanayake BBC journalist a little erarlier on Radio 5:

He took the time to appeal to listeners to ignore the 'you tubers and far right people' who want to spread hate. WTF??

I was staggered by these comments. If we listened to some of the 'you tubers' this wouldn't be happening. AND the so called far right opposed the Iraq war which destabilised the region and created more 'hate' than ever.

I know he and Tommy Robinson had a right go on twatter at each other a while back.

There's apologists for terrorism and then there's down right collusion...

the clue is in the name

hardly, the geezer is of Sri Lankan Buddhist descent

exactly

ps  you don't think he is going to be even handed do you?

I have no interest in his faith. What angered me as a BBC journalist he lectured his listeners and continued the 'nothing to do with Islam' agenda.

He had a dig at the right weak and alt media. Is he like so many liberals  more afraid of 'hate speech' than the butchering of innocent lives??

*right wing

they have picked out a few to come on sky and blow smoke around

we have to go and talk to the 'community' 

how long have we been doing that

do they want to talk

or are we using the wrong language

I know in the end it will be all OUR fault

same as the knife crime in london

its not THEIR fault

The usual boll0x spoken by the manc chief commissioner in all his regalia, ''if anyone suffers  retribution at a time like this, do not hesitate to call the police'', Thats all he's worried about, making sure he doesn't upset the local imams or the snowflakes that pay his wages, There wouldn't be any retribution, if all these people who are on the watch list, were rounded up and mysteriously dissapeared, or  if That **** Blair hadn't invaded Iraq as a favour to his paymaster Bush,  put Blair on trial for war crimes....
I'm sure most of us, as well as the Muslim fanatics, would be happy to see that..

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I have read this book, which is well reasoned and referenced to sources throughout. I urge you to read it too if you haven't already done so.
You might also want to read Tommy Robinson's biography, "Enemy of the State" where he recounts his personal experiences growing up in Luton and at the "sharp end".
Read them and make up your own mind.

The problem is, they will be read by the converted. The multi-cultural zealots will avoid all such publications. They don't want to know what is really happening, they are too entrenched to change their minds.

You are quite right, saddo. Not everyone has experienced the delights of living in a multicultural neighbourhood and they are naturally feeling left out.

I believe the end of Europe and the UK as we know it is in sight, it's inevitable as the old generation dies off.

If they can get as far as they have got with the opposition there is from basically the baby boomers now. Think what enormous strides they'll be able to make with us out of the way, and replaced by the young indoctrinated generation who couldn't see a bus coming if they stood in front of it.
Especially after being so dumbed down with leftie school teaching, and minority groups liberalism shoved down their throats from birth.

The Internet has accelerated the process as well, lets not forget.

The UK is in the grip of the two party system, and both main parties and certainly the Liberals are well prepared to give the UK away to whoever wants it if the truths know.
If anyone says that's false, they only have to look at the towns and inner cities across the country that have already fallen.

And one thing is for sure, the next generation will be easy meat for the warriors who have already come here. They'll keep the immigration floodgates open for certain.
Although they might want to keep the UK exclusive for their own kind once they've taken over.

I agree that the young generation will offer little resistance(what do you expect from soneone who doesn't have to work to earn his bread). But to say that the older generation is offering more resistance is crap. People forget that this is not a new phenomenon. Economic migrants have been welcome in Europe for the simple reason that they can pay taxes and help solve Europe's demographic problems. Countries have been dishing out nationalities and passports or residency rights to anyone who can show paid taxes for over 2-5 years. Its just that the recent refugee crisis has accelerated the issue and brought it to the limelight.

Two things i find amusing are, just like Dr. Crippen's post, it is all a game of labels. We are not ready to blame one person or one govt for our issues. Its all because of lefties, young indoctrined generation, leftie school teaching, multi culturalism, liberals and what not. Second, people hardly have an issue with what happens away from their homes. From Thatcher to now UK has been doing shady deals with the saudis and other middle eastern countries. At some point, the other side must have realized they could do something similar. Only they didn't have anything worthwhile to sell. So they sold what we needed and that was workforce. A workforce 'that provides us much needed labor to continue our social system' just like we provide them weapons to 'defeat evil and bring peace to the region'. Both will never work. Its not supposed to. That's how everyone makes money, the ones you only blame for being left, right, labor, tories etc etc.

If i am a leftie and in a powerful position, I would love it all day if people kept blaming everything on leftie ideology(or whatever it is) and never held me accountable for what I did. All people need is a label for others and once they've found the right one, everything that person does or says is that label's fault. Happens all the time on this forum at least.

^^And detraveller calls my post ''crap''

Does he even understand what is meant by ''lefty thinking'' in this day and age?

He's the easy meat I was talking about in my previous post.

I didn't call your post crap. I called the idea of saying the old generation is providing some sort of resistance is crap.

Your reply is exactly what im talking about. You've conveniently pushed me into the 'not knowing what lefty thinking is' and 'easy meat' labels. Those labels mean nothing. I can easily hide behind those labels and entice you to keep calling me that and i'll pretend im trying to defend myself when in reality i'm laughing at you for fighting over labels while I cater to my vested interests. That's exactly how the politicians go about their business. Keep you busy in labels while they sit together on the same table everyday laughing at you.

detraveller you`re talking nonsense, don't allow yourself to believe anything else.

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