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dustybin
27 Apr 17 09:12
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Looks like a very familiar template to me.
Pick somewhere on a map to invade and build up a case against them.
All this talk of N.Korea being this global threat....wtf have they done other than fire some crook rockets into the sea and shout stuff over a loud speaker?
So much for trump being a domestic president.

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By:
lfc1971
When: 27 Apr 17 09:18
see the thread `I watched German concentration camps - factual survey last night.
By:
dustybin
When: 27 Apr 17 09:48
I've seen it, now what?
By:
lfc1971
When: 27 Apr 17 10:04
I don`t know, it doesn't bother me. Things that happened 70 years ago don't bother me,
I insist on being unbothered by that.
By:
lfc1971
When: 27 Apr 17 10:07
does it bother you dusty, the concentration camps, the millions of deaths, the terror, the starvation, the repression?
I don`t know
By:
ufcdan
When: 27 Apr 17 10:12
Yep can't be blamed what our ancestors did, this country is hardly blameless regarding concentration camps, chemical warfare, mass executions etc. You don't take over two thirds of the world by being nice ! Today though we benefit from past actions being one of the richest countries in the world and for me there is place I'd rather live..............and as a dual national I do have a choice Happy
By:
lfc1971
When: 27 Apr 17 10:16
we should be grateful to America, grateful that they destroyed that evil regime and stopped the madness of its brutal dictator.
who could deny that?
the concentration camps were liberated and we should all say a little prayer of thanks everyday we live.
By:
ufcdan
When: 27 Apr 17 10:21
Agree funny though lefties from the free western world always demonstrate against the USA, you never see them plotted up outside the Russian or Syrian embassies Angry
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 27 Apr 17 10:37
though lefties from the free western world always demonstrate against the USA

They seem to hate the entire west. Particularly USA, UK and Israel.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 27 Apr 17 10:50
LFC - you say you're unbothered by the Nazi atrocities but within 10 minutes also say we should say a little prayer of thanks.


Not for the first time, you've left me confused.Confused
By:
dustybin
When: 27 Apr 17 11:03
It's very true that both concentration camps and eugenics were both British inventions that were emulated by others trying to do what Britain did, destroy opposing views and rule.
This has nothing to do with helping percieved injustice in another country, it's about opportunism and using an action to appear powerful to garner support at home, and create a homogenised planet where all fall and suckle from the American breast.

English monarchy used similar tactics when enforcing their rule by appearing strong in the face of claims to the crown, it's just there are no avenues nowadays to crush their own at home so they pick and chose who to invade next.

My point was that trump got elected on the domestic first ticket, which he's s hit all down.
N.korea might not be Americas cup of tea but it's not for them to choose....like I said, other than shooting missiles into the sea what have they done?
America hold annual events on their boarder just the same.
By:
lfc1971
When: 27 Apr 17 11:32
In N. Korea there are vast concentration camps and state abductions, public executions and the enslavement of entire families. Former prisoner Shin Dong Hyuk was beaten , tortured and forced to watch the execution of his mother and brother at the age of 13. When he eventually escaped he was 23.
A woman was forced to drown her own baby and entire families  tortured and imprisoned for watching a banned foreign soap opera.

Young Soon told amnesty international
My mother and father were over 70 years of age
my 9 year old daughter, my 3 sons 7,4 and 1
When my parents starved to death I didn't have any coffins for them
I wrapped their bodies in straw and carried them on my back to bury them
When asked what the conditions were like she replied
"It is a place that would make your hair stand on end "
By:
lfc1971
When: 27 Apr 17 11:41
Well pp, it's a bit hypocritical to be bothered about what happened 70 years ago and not be bothered about what is happening today . It's easier of course .
By:
dustybin
When: 27 Apr 17 11:42
So emperor trump will decide what is and isn't acceptable.
After he's finished worshiping money.
By:
lfc1971
When: 27 Apr 17 11:45
Is dustybin bothered about what was done by the nazis 70 years ago, and the murder if millions of innocent people , whole families ? I don't know .
He will claim to be worried about Britain and its role in concentration camps .
That doesn't bother me either .
By:
lfc1971
When: 27 Apr 17 11:47
You see what is it is not acceptable? Well no ones perfect that is true.
But i like living in England, I am grateful to England for its freedoms
By:
lfc1971
When: 27 Apr 17 11:48
I lived and worked in America, and I was grateful for its freedoms also
By:
dustybin
When: 27 Apr 17 12:03
I don't quite see how what I made of nazi concentration camps has any bearing on how opportunistic foreign policy is used today.
I understand the sentiment of some sort of comparison to a dictorial regime but there's always a reason.
Many turn out to be untrue after the event lest I remind you.

If it's as bad as assumed then wait for them to overthrow the rule.

It's just like the ngo's flying illegally into Libya with that well known Tory politician along with 6 SAS crew stirring up s hit right before the proxy war....
Or like that well known son of a well known Tory woman leader in Africa......
By:
detraveller
When: 27 Apr 17 12:10
Why do we have to worry about NK at all? We've worried so much about Afg, Iraq and Libya and most people here still whine about the after effects of that. The refugee crisis has clearly shown that people are fine as long as the war is at another place but really p1ss their pants when the war coems home, even if that's in the form of refugees.

Let's not bother about other countries for a change and let the americans take care of it alone.
By:
lfc1971
When: 27 Apr 17 13:12
If the US was to invade N. Korea it would be one of the greatest and most noble acts of any country in history .
By:
terry mccann
When: 27 Apr 17 13:26
you do talk some ****ing b0llocks,you really haven't a clue ifc
By:
detraveller
When: 27 Apr 17 13:27
There are two basic reasons why America will never attack NK.

1. NK has almost guaranteed its safety against bullying by achieving nuclear capability.

2. Half the South Korean population lives in the Greater Seoul region. That is all NK have to hit in case of a war.

And war is never a noble act lfc. I know you love the americans because according to you any country should be thankful the americans invade it. Americans have a really bad record of actually liberating people from tyrant govts. A couple good examples yes but that's not worth the misery they bring on the rest of the world.
By:
GoOnThen
When: 27 Apr 17 13:28
Interesting discussion on the subject on Daily Politics with Andrew Neil interviewing Sebastian Gorka.
By:
terry mccann
When: 27 Apr 17 13:29
no idea how the world is run,actually proberly better off not having a clue
By:
lfc1971
When: 27 Apr 17 13:37
If they do what America tells them that will be a step in the right direction.
By:
detraveller
When: 27 Apr 17 13:41
Yeah like Europe's been doing what america tells them Grin
By:
detraveller
When: 27 Apr 17 13:44
...and cleaning up the mess too like an obedient slave.
By:
lfc1971
When: 27 Apr 17 13:47
don't have the first clue what detraveller is talking about.
By:
lfc1971
When: 27 Apr 17 13:49
Look at it this way, the last time America invaded Europe it was because they deserved it, especially Germany
Who would deny that ?
By:
dustybin
When: 27 Apr 17 13:53
What I tend to see with the conservative mentality whether 'neo' or 'traditional' is that they simply cant stop interfering in other peoples' business or try to tell them what to do or think, especially if they can make collateral doing it.
Its like they are programmed as mini meglomaniacs.
By:
lfc1971
When: 27 Apr 17 13:58
It's ok, you are allowed to think whichever way you want in America , and England
and even not to think at all. there is complete freedom to do that also.
If you think this is the case in most countries you are gravely mistaken
N Korea is one of the most extreme examples.
By:
dustybin
When: 27 Apr 17 14:00
Then pick up your gun and you go deal with it then.
Instead of wormy politicians hiding behind false manifestos and mandates to rule pointing the place they want others to die for them.
By:
dustybin
When: 27 Apr 17 14:01
The day we get invaded will be the day Ill help you lfc, until then you go tub thumping on your own.
By:
lfc1971
When: 27 Apr 17 14:03
I would consider it an honour and something beautiful to do so, to serve in such an undertaking to invade N Korea and overthrow that evil and brutal regime.
By:
detraveller
When: 27 Apr 17 14:04
Exactly. But no matter how bad they are, it doesn't justify an american invasion. That is the point im trying to make. Remember how bad Afghanistan and Iraq was? Theya aren't better off. I know you blame the people for not willing to change, and their religion too. But that's the point. The world is not compatible with the western way. Sooner we realize that, the better it will be. Kim sh1ts on his own people should not be anyone's concern. If it was Belgium or Holland ill understand. But NK is another Iraq and Libya waiting to explode. The only difference is they have a million strong nuclear army and no matter how bad that army is, that's nothing to laugh about.
By:
lfc1971
When: 27 Apr 17 14:07
I don't believe the Korean people would behave in the same way as Iraq and other countries.
I may be wrong, but I believe it is something they would thank us for , all their life .
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 27 Apr 17 14:08
I do think it should be enshrined in law that every child of eligible age must be forced to go on the front line if their parent was an MP/Senator etc and voted to go to war.

Let's see how much the sabre rattling dries up then.
By:
dustybin
When: 27 Apr 17 14:12
Whenever I see Mike Pence talking up conflict I think it had to have been a stone in the shoe of his father at every meal time refering back to the war they never won.
By:
lfc1971
When: 27 Apr 17 14:14
pp I think you will that in England it is the tradition that the British ruling classes are prepared to make these great sacrifices. now don't start that nonsense , in England everyone was prepared to do these things for our freedoms
By:
detraveller
When: 27 Apr 17 14:15
@PP Never happening. Politicians know that the people know that but there are enough sheeps out there willing to go to war thinking its a noble cause and as long as we have enough of them, the politicians wont need to send their own. If it ever comes down to that, the same politicians will become anti war and continue serving the people. That's how politics works.

Also look at what you are asking them to do. You are asking the lawmakers to write it into a law that they'll have to send their own children to war :D What are the odds on that happening?
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