Someone doesn't like Dortmund FC

I will have to re-assess clearly.

Game postponed

Borussia Dortmund v Monaco (19:45 BST)


Borussia Dortmund have confirmed that tonight's game has been called off and will now take place tomorrow at 17:45 BST.

bbc headline 'Dortmund game off after bus explosion'

he he   naughty Sonko!!!   Clearly ran out of oil and engine blew up!!

It seemed to me that this wasn't a typical islamist attack.
Confusing messages now coming out from the Police and other sources.  But how can they say this is NOT a terror attack.  Seems rather terrifying to me.

german snowflakes in denial again bloke on sky saying this could well be football hooligans, you no those well known footie hoolies who reguarly use remote control bombs to blow up team buses,the chelsea headhunters will be green with envy

And that vicious lot in Bournemouth.  The pink pound has a lot of clout around there you know!!!

It could have been Bader Meinhof if my smelling is rite.

But I admit to thinking it didn't quite seem like an islamist attack.  Probably wrong again - I usually am. But I did get a stonking good win on Palace the other night!!!!

so the 2 islamist extremists they suspect and arrested one of them ,must be just promising young footballers,
yet again for the snowflakes,luvies,libtards,her we go again
IF ITS YELLOW AND QUACKS ITS USUALLY  A DUCK,
please repeat a 1000 times

Plod have said they found a letter-note identifying themselves as the bombers. But not a fecking dickybird to anyone..

and you are a xzylophone if you even MENTION the bearded ones!! ho ho!!!

Did the club sack a promising young lone wolf of a mentally ill and bullied footballer recently, and this is the reprisal?

frank gardener and the snowflakes have now narrowed it down to,
if they dont shout ali akbar its not a true bone fide terrorist attack,
and thats not a joke thats what he said last week on the beeb

1 arrested and one being sought.

Nigel & Seymour?

when the pics reach us will he be

a muzzy with a beard
or
a football hoolie wearing a fred perry t shirt and a henri loyd jacket

Apr 12, 2017 -- 1:46PM, moisok wrote:

and you are a xzylophone if you even MENTION the bearded ones!! ho ho!!!

xlyophonic jokes are verboten

shirley it is not one of those 'ABBA IS GREAT'  shouters!!!

"another town another train"  ...by abba knutjob

They were fortunate - good job there was distance between the Islamist bombs and the coach.

Probably just lacking match practice.

How incompetent do you have to be to detonate 3 bombs that fail to blow up a fuel laden vehicle?

My old chemistry teacher would be furious.

They were hidden in a hedge across the road. Pointless us filling town precints with concrete planters if they are gonna consider removing all foliage.

We could always remove cars.

Apr 12, 2017 -- 5:46PM, Injera wrote:

How incompetent do you have to be to detonate 3 bombs that fail to blow up a fuel laden vehicle?My old chemistry teacher would be furious.

Sometimes the purpose is not to kill, its to instill fear. and sometimes its not the terrorists who are responsible, but the ones who told you that the terrorists did it. People never ask for proof of who did it. They believe what the govt tells them. At some point in time, someone in the govt is going to figure that out(though i do believe they already have) and use it for their own agenda.

You really think Merkel would blame the terrorists if they had nothing to do with it? Have a lay down laddie..

How strange. Conspiracy theory brought in to muddy the waters.
My take on this is they were CIA in false ginger beards

Hope this helps.

No I don't and i never said that. I only told Injera why sometimes it looks like the terrorists are incompetent. Bombs do go off sometimes just to make the people think a certain way.

3 bombs go off and no one gets killed(i havent read the news so pardon me if there were casulaties) and it cant just be because the bombers were incompetent. You have to work really really hard as a terrorist to blow off 3 bombs without killing anyone. Imagine being the employer of these bombers. You'd be p1ssed

Having said that I am not implying any particular conspiracy in this case, so save your time in case you want to attack me for saying the above. In fact I haven't even bothered checking the news on this. If you have a decent brain you'll realize we will have to live with this sort of stuff.

"Sometimes the purpose is not to kill, its to instill fear" Really! Bataclan 130 dead, Nice 86 dead, Brussels 32 dead, Twin towers 2,996 dead, the list is endless. Do you really believe everything that you think! do you even think?. Were you one of the twots holding up a welcome refugees banner or had you already left Germany.

Because i like ya detraveller; i'm going to let that one go....

Unlike Boxy....

All I wanted to do was give Injera an explanation of why terrrists can sometimes look incompetent.

And yes I was working at the refugees first point of entry in Germany from Sep 2015 to Sep 2016(not the one holding the banners lol). No point sharing those times here now because people on the forum don't want to hear the truth. It is really sad that people want to find a solution to a problem but aren't willing to listen to ground realities(in case of refugees). I was there when the refugees were arriving and it is unbelievable how poeple believe exactly what the media tells them. If you were me and observed the media and people's response during 2015-2016, you'd lose all hope for humanity. We are all slaves to the govt and media, whether you like it or not(and irrespective of whether you call my posts conspiracy theories or not). Ive made my peace with the future which is why i havent even bothred to check if anyone got killed in the Dortmund bombing. As i said, get used to it.

Thank you for that considered reply. People in this country are used to it have been since the 1970s.

Its a long journey for those refugees detraveller, did they never think of going to a much closer Muslim country?

Or is it a case that they just didn't know the way?

As i said, there is no point shaking up those memories and asking such questions but one of the guy's words I still remember really clear. 'We were treated like royalty as soon as we entered Austrian territory'. It wasn't a case of where they were headed. It was a case of who invited them(or wanted them).

A lot of people are tired of being constantly lied to by those in charge pushing their 'no problems here' agenda. Then someone comes on here and still sides with the liars, one tends to tar them with the same brush.  The thinly veiled attempts to direct the discussion away from the main point is something we are used to on here and on tv news.  No wonder they are treated with scorn and contempt.
We are at war with people with a revolting agenda and we STILL have these attempts to obfuscate. Attempts to dilute are so obvious and crass.

hope this helps

Do you see - traveller has taken us from bomber islamist type attacks to talking (with a tear in eye) to some poor regugees who shouldn't be there.  It is how to play for sympathy and not talk about the bearded ones' terror attacks.
Diversion is the apologists main tactic.

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Oh the irony of this old photo is overwhelming, thats the thanks they got.

A man detained by police over a bomb attack on the Borussia Dortmund team bus is believed to have been an Islamic State fighter in Iraq, German prosecutors said.
They have issued a formal arrest warrant for the 26-year-old Iraqi, who is currently in police custody after being detained on Wednesday following raids on two apartments.


The suspect is believed to have led a 10-strong commando unit involved in killings, kidnappings, smuggling and extortion in Iraq.

Identified as Abdul Beset A, he arrived in Germany via Turkey in early 2016, the federal prosecutor's office said in a statement.

I think he is just misunderstood, another friendly "refugee".

If your immigration policy cannot keep people like that out then surely your immigration policy is totally wrong and needs changing.

We have no room to talk, our gov have absolutely no idea how many foreiners have entered this country. Most figures you see quoted, go back to 2011 or earlier, the next census will be an eye opener.

A microcosm - 17 illegals turned out of a chinese restaurant not a million miles away from me.
A mix of nationalities.
Imagine that applied to each and every outlet around the country

Just for starters

I am going for 1.5 million illegals as an approximate figure

1.01 they will never be told to leave.

I really cannot see how you can come to the same old xzylophonic conclusion saddo.  Remember the poor children.

You must have been poisoned by brexitting. It is not your fault.  Ms millar, that nice man mr mandelson and Tony will put it all right, but it is a sad end for you.  You and your family have my sympathy. 
Let me patronise you a little more later, after these nice people have corrected this abberation

Apr 13, 2017 -- 10:42AM, moisok wrote:

Do you see - traveller has taken us from bomber islamist type attacks to talking (with a tear in eye) to some poor regugees who shouldn't be there.  It is how to play for sympathy and not talk about the bearded ones' terror attacks.Diversion is the apologists main tactic.

Only if you understood English better, i said the exact opposite.

For someone who says bombs aren't there to kill I think you are here just to take the p!$$.

Again, you aren't reading and just venting your frustration.

oh deary me  - I can assure you I am not frustrated - happy fishing - although I am rather old I do control my emissions as best I can - yours seem out of control ho ho

Actually the funny part is i am not even defending the refugees but you think i am.

what refugees?  it was our bearded friends wot tried to blow up a football team - at least I think it was
but then I am just believing everything I am told coz I am so gullible and silly

Apr 13, 2017 -- 1:28PM, moisok wrote:

what refugees?  it was our bearded friends wot tried to blow up a football team - at least I think it was but then I am just believing everything I am told coz I am so gullible and silly

Read the posts again. Did i say it was not the bearded fellows. In fact, i said i hadnt bothered to check the news because i knew who it was. And if you still haven't figured out why the topic of refugees came up, read the posts again.

I repeat, you are banging your head against the wall. Try reading again with better concentration. You are just arguing for the sake of it when there is nothing to argue and we are both actually saying the same thing :D

Apr 12, 2017 -- 10:39PM, detraveller wrote:

Having said that I am not implying any particular conspiracy in this case, so save your time in case you want to attack me for saying the above. In fact I haven't even bothered checking the news on this. If you have a decent brain you'll realize we will have to live with this sort of stuff.

I said this especially for people like you.

no truck with the edl,tommy robinson etc but theres a nice video doing the rounds of robinson confronting 27 muslims going into court charged with 118 cases of gang raping white english girls aged 11 and under,all young mussies smiling away,trhats the ones not hiding their faces,these people are embedded the birds flown,
imagine 27 white men going into court charged with the same offences ,there,d be 10,s of thousands of white uk nationals outside venting there spleen,not one mussie outside venting their spleen on these 27,its bred into them, they think its their birthright,scum the 27 of them

More of the above coming as they get a firmer grip on the legal profession.  Nice inroads into constituencies where they can concentrate. Get on local councils and start creating new bye laws.

detraveller - I agree some acts of terrorism are designed to disrupt, confuse and as you say, cause widespread fear. The IRA would sometimes notify Plod of a bomb before it detonated.

If this was an Islamic attack I'm sure that wouldn't be the case in this instance though. They want to kill and be killed. It's an odd attack as the bomber escaped and disobeyed Mohammed to die killing the infidel.

Maybe it wasn't Islamic at all.

wasnt islamc at all are you taking the pish theyve arrested a muzzy from gernany who,s been out fighting in lybia,syria,calling on,training others to do the same,what do yiou want it stamped on his forhead, FFS

I said 'maybe'.

Until it's clear then I won't speculate. I merely pointed out, most bombers/gunmen who are Islamic make sure they die in the process.

The guy in the lorry in Sweden did a runner. Maybe they're running out of 'followers'

Hope so

May as well post this on ere as another fred.

If DAESH are getting spanked all over Syria and the 'good' guys are just about to March on Raqqa; then where are they getting the peeps from to take over if Basher is dethroned?

there's going to be nearly 5 mill in the uk for starters
no shortage of supporters here
quite a few being sponsored by our government!!?? 
well - on benefits -

German police have admitted they have no evidence linking the sole suspect in the Borussia Dortmund football team bus bombing with the attack - but believe he was an ISIS commander while in his home country of Iraq.

A 26-year-old Iraqi, identified only as Abdul Baset al-O, was arrested yesterday in connection with the attack.

- Daily Mail

Begs the question: With an immigration policy like this, why doesn't Merkel resign?

ex communist dictator whipping up anti muslim feeling so she can clamp down on the lot of you

How much more blood must get on the hands of Merkel and the 'Welcome Refugees' morons before the insane German immigration policy is publicly and finally acknowledged as a disaster?

The Swedish PM has finally (and belatedly) woken up to see the catastrophic damage done to his own country by mass immigration, not that you'd know that from the pitiful left-wing media who have done their best to silence the story.

stop venting your frustration alun

you ha'n a naughty boy' -    to paraphrase a famous similar line!!!!

typing gone to ss......    have been a naughty boy etc

Agenda - Islamic Europe.

Clear as the nose on your face.

Has the right wing element of Dortmund's Ultra group been ruled out now then? I see the BBC was suggesting this in an article the day after it happened.

Of course Ultras are well known for planting bombs to blow up their own team bus.

The MSM have been told to downplay the Islamic aspect of any terrorist attack Alun, or offer an alternative explanation where possible I think was the gist of it. Obviously as you say this has been extended to suppressing the story about the Swedish PM's complete U turn where he now admits unchecked immigration has been a disaster. Every right minded person always knew this would be the case and we weren't shy in saying so. Unfortunately the lefty brigade shouted us down with cries of "racist" and "nazi" etc. Makes you sick doesn't it.

hamsterdam, it seems as if the note that was left alludes to team rivalry.

any updates here?

.. yes for what it's worth it was a couple of wet fireworks planted by some local lunatic with a grudge against the club. IMO.

bump

It's looking more like a far right attack. Some on here with egg on their faces imo..

egg on face man needed here as a matter of priority. !!

Facts already reported in the MSM about incident........

A CHILLING letter found after the Dortmund bus attack claims sport stars "in Germany and other crusader nations" are on a "death list of the Islamic State".
Three pipe bombs went off near a bus carrying the Bundesliga team to Signal Iduna Park stadium in Germany last night.

A letter that “takes responsibility for the act” was found outside the L'Arrivee Hotel and Spa where the team was staying.

German prosecutors said two "Islamist" extremists are the focus of the probe into the attack ahead of Dortmund's Champions League quarter-final clash with Monaco.

One has been arrested as German detectives investigate the possibility the attack may be linked to terrorism.

But in a strange twist cops found another letter from left-wing anti-Nazi group ANTIFA claiming “responsibility” for the attack.

In a statement this morning, "horrified" German chancellor branded the attack "repugnant".

THREAT: German sport stars are on an ISIS death list, the letter claims

The first letter hailed an abhorrent ISIS-inspired attack on a German Christmas market that killed 12 revellers last year.

It also claimed the Dortmund bomb blasts were revenge for the murder of Muslims in the self-declared caliphate of the death cult.

Sport stars from Germany and “other crusader nations” are on an ISIS “death list”, according to the letter.

Crusader nations refers  – meaning UK football stars could also be on the list.

Do MSM reporters actually read what they have written in their own already published articles or do they wake up in the mornings with a red wine hangover from a lovvie dinner party the night before and make up 'news' on a daily basis ?

does the Daily Star really count

when people are whinging about certain news outlets not reporting things immediately, that post above should be a good reason why

too many rushing out unverified information

A letter eh?


A letter.


Thank god no-one could simply write a letter and say I, an Islamist/Man U fan/redhead/a vegan claim responsibility, cite a few things that I reckon these people would be upset about knowing the media would jump on it before waiting for verification.



What a ridiculous idea that would clearly be.

Bump

meanwhile in france a PSG supporter and his friends attempt to lower the share price of his favourite club

he then scoops the jackpot having backed le pen and now gets out with a profitable lay

"So the 2 islamist extremists they suspect and arrested one of them ,must be just promising young footballers,
yet again for the snowflakes,luvies,libtards,her we go again
IF ITS YELLOW AND QUACKS ITS USUALLY  A DUCK,
please repeat a 1000 times"

another one hands himself in

In brussels?? 
They are at it all over europe

and the uk - it is only the security services that have stopped any more here

And the 'progressive' Lefties want no limit on the number of immigrants who follow the special faith to come here.

In the wake of the Dortmund attack, I'm awaiting Le Pen and Farage announcing plans for a clampdown on capitalists being allowed to cross borders.

come on " egg on face man "    ...   we know you are out there !!   although in honesty if true, its a bit of an extreme way

  to alter a share price. 

GC, It really doesn't matter that 'W/THEY' got this one wrong, there will will be ongoing atrocities. by foot soldiers with little brain in the name of Jihad. Egg on face is a Puerile deflection from the real situation.
People are dying FFS, cheap shots on a betting forum, What is that worth??

Egg on face, is puerile**

We talked about how these terrorists continue with their pathetic executions of attacks. I wonder where they're getting their training these days. Back in the days, they could hijack planes and fly them to a destination of choice 'themselves'! These days they kill a handful despite being armed. And the ones that have had more success chose truck rammings which interestingly only need a driver's license and no military training. At least the terrorists are on the decline

boxing, i like others was just responding to the cc forums nasty habit of blaming everything thats wrong in the country on immigrants,

muslims, etc.   what happened to " treat people as you find them ".


  Injera
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Agenda - Islamic Europe.

Clear as the nose on your face.



...  OR MAYBE EGG  ??  ( or is that just purile ).

.... " AGENDA-ISLAMIC EUROPE " .   

  .. you can come out your air raid shelter now, it was just some disgruntled share holder !!  pity a few more sports direct shareholders

  didnt feel so strongly.

They must be taking Creative writing classes too, Another 'letter' reported found with the Avenue des Champs-Élysées shooter.

  was his name pat ?  did he have a black and white cat ? 

was the guy in paris a PSG share holder I wonder or the one in brussels  - club brugge???

just asking

currently described on sky as a 'career criminal'  that's a new one on me
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Glasgow - read back a bit and see where I questioned whether this was an Islamic attack...

As for my comment about the overrall agenda for Europe, I stand by that remark.  The proof is in the immigration figures + the birth rate of Muslims + the acquiescence of the media/Govts.

roll over and present -  coz that is where they are going

A man who bombed the Borussia Dortmund football team bus in 2017 has been given 14 years for attempted murder.
Sergei Wenergold, a German of Russian origin, had hidden bombs packed with metal pins which went off as the bus passed a hedge on its way to a Champions League quarter-final match.
The blast, which wounded two people, was initially treated as a suspected jihadist attack.
But Wenergold admitted the plot, saying he had not meant to hurt anyone.
In a bizarre twist, it emerged that the 29 year old had planned to make money out of the bombing by betting on a fall in Borussia Dortmund's stock market price.