Westminster Lockdown thread deleted ?

yes they are the ones who have let them in

thanks blair et al

apparently according to sky this is a major test of security

3 out of 10 I think

Mar 22, 2017 -- 6:08PM, moisok wrote:

exactly   they are everywhere inside  BUTare they armed with bullets???   plain clothed only - doesn't make senseare they there for show or what??

Yes presumably. The non-aggressive face of the tourist friendly perimeter. In today's world, you'd presume that at least one armed officer would have their back at  any given moment.

This kind of attack at this kind of location was highly predictable.

The unarmed police officers at the periphery are always going to be the most vulnerable. And we're talking lone wolf here. Not even a cell. We're just very naive.

You can't protect the public, but give the guys with a target on their back a chance.

They are concentrating on elwood the hero etc but not on the problem

the press  - in fact everyone is on a deflection exercise

it appears no one or hardly any one seems to be dealing with the problem

it only comes from one group but..............

Donald`s speaking the supposedly unspeakable in America; now that someone in such a prominent position has shown some cojones, won`t be long before the rest of the West follows the Leader Of The Free World. And thank God for that.

While I`m here, might as well take the opportunity to remind all the lefties that I`m STILL chortling. A lifetime we`ve suffered under your tosh, but your day is done, it`s all over, your baloney has been rumbled for The Emporer`s New Clothes that all right-thinking people have always known it to be.

Missed two minutes of chortling whilst writing this so goota rush, gotta catch up on the chortles, far too precious and enjoyable to let slip away. Priceless, in fact. Again, to all lefties, I thank you most sincerely for such selfless spreading of joy.

^^^Emperor

Should I take the opportunity thrown up by a typo to chortle again? No; that would be most unfair, no need to rub their nos... 

Sorry, can`t keep it up, can`t keep a straight face!  We long-sufferers can`t miss ANY chance to remind the poor darlings of how utterly risible their whole life`s beliefs are, and have been, can we?

CHORTLE, CHORTLE, CHORTLE!!!

.....I wonder if the guy got caught at the bridge, would he only serve about 5 years in jail for causing death by dangerous driving because its not in the 'tax payers interest' to keep him in the slammer.

A loophole for the 'terrorist' that must be closed.

Bizarre he got so far with just a knife or 2 imo

^ I don`t think they want to keep it a secret.

a terrorist is not going to do something and say it was an accident.
that`s what someone normal might do.

Why have they wheeled out Brendan Cox? To compare this in any way to the killing of Jo Cox is a joke.

If they interviewed relatives or survivors of 7/7 I could understand it.

I don't even believe the weather forecast on the BBC these days.

4 people died..."including the attacker"

Was thinking exactly the same Khyber,you get the feeling we're going to see plenty more of Mr Cox on our screens.

And plenty more to come - this from the mouth of the leader of one of the new ottoman empire.
His timing about safety on the streets and veiled threat is amazing timing is it not?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/turkey-erdogan-germany-netherlands-warning-europeans-not-walk-safely-a7642941.html

'no european can walk safely on any streets in any part of the world'  etc 

spooky stuff

A lot of people on here getting the left mixed up with liberals. There were apparently plenty of Muslims in the old Soviet Union but they caused little trouble there.

3 dead
40 injured
7 critical
queue of mp,s waiting to get on tv to tell us the security worked,what planet are these people on,if they mean we,re the mp,s are safe,WGAF ,about them

khan going on about 'we will not be divided'   sikh, chinese, hindu, muslim  all living together except this isn't the case is it

one group definitely wants to be separate - we are already divided - the first three 'asian' groups (if we can call them that) seem not to be divisive in their ways.  But one group is and most of them won't even report any radicalisation to the authorities.
says it all really

The BBC on Islam is not to blame crusade enough to make you sick.

'get used to it' is his watchword

message to mp,s
commons suspended yesterday
hollyrood closed
queen cancelling appearence today
may rushed out of commons yesterday
its not business as usual the democratic way didnt carry on regardless

There were apparently plenty of Muslims in the old Soviet Union but they caused little trouble there.

That's because any signs of dissent from any group in Russia and their feet wouldn't touch the floor.

We're seeing a consistent tactic now from the authorities. They know who the killers are but they will just delay and stall naming them until the initial shock and hysteria dies down.
If he was anything other than Muslim, he would be named right away.

ffs the bbc now letting ken livingstone tell us the police havnt just stopped islamic threats but plots from far right groups,why have the bbc made at least 6 mentions of far right groups when covering this story plus a few sneaky joe cox mentions

can you imagine the muslim,islam uproar if when covering a far right attack ,the bbc kept bringing muslims into the discussion

several sources saying it was that baldy **** abu ??

Ken is seeking votes, he thinks about his electorate every time he opens his mouth.

Take note of what he says others who speak like him.
Then vow to oppose them every time they stand for election. 

As for the BBC. The BBC is in serious need of reform.
Like the Labour party they have also been infiltrated.

With all respect and condolences to Brendan Cox, the murder of his wife - whilst sickening - was focused on one representative of the UK's political leadership.

Yesterday's attack was mass slaughter that happened to be in the vicinity of Westminster.

When an Islamic terrorist or terrorist cell decides to inflict their warped ideology on the world, they don't ask if you are a Liberal or care of you are wearing whatever coloured wristband is deemed the 'solidarity item de nos jours'.

You are going to get killed.

Anyone mention False Flag yet ?

Just seen a report that the attacker is British and not a foreigner

London attack: Theresa May says Westminster assailant was British-born and known to MI5




May said that attacker was a British-born man who had been investigated in the past in relation to violent extremism, by only as “a peripheral figure”. But he had not been a current suspect, she said.
His identity is known to the police and MI5, and when operational considerations allow, he will be publicly identified. What I can confirm is that the man was British born and that – some years ago – he was once investigated by M15 in relation to concerns about violent extremism. He was a peripheral figure. The case is historic – he was not part of the current intelligence picture.






Maybe they need to get more intelligence in the Squad

She said the “best response to terrorism” was for people to carry with their lives as normal.





It is in these actions – millions of acts of normality – that we find the best response to terrorism.

A response that denies our enemies their victory. That refuses to let them win. That shows we will never give in.

A response driven by that same spirit that drove a husband and father to put himself between us and our attacker, and to pay the ultimate price.

A response that says to the men and women who propagate this hate and evil: you will not defeat us.







CARRY ON NOTHING TO SEE HERE BACK TO YOUR MINIMUM WAGE JOB AND ACT AS NOTHING HAD HAPPENED BECAUSE IF EVERYONE DECIDED TO TAKE FEW DAYS OF WORK THEN THE TOURISTS WOULDNT BE ABLE TO GET COFFEES FROM STARBUCKS.THE BUSES WOULD BE EMPTY AND ROADS CLEAR..OHHHH PERISH THE THOUGHT

Libtards creaming themselves on social media with "so there" posts about killer being British born

So were 7/7 lot, still Muslim extremists

Mar 23, 2017 -- 7:14AM, Platini wrote:

Libtards creaming themselves on social media with "so there" posts about killer being British born

You have to worry about people who's opinions of wrong and right relate to race and nationality.

There is no difference between a British born extremist and a foreign born extremist.

It's worse. All these years under out noses now this...

Mar 23, 2017 -- 5:50AM, casemoney wrote:

several sources saying it was that baldy **** abu ??

Anyone else heard this? Would be bizarre if correct.

Mar 23, 2017 -- 7:27AM, GoOnThen wrote:

Mar 23, 2017 -- 10:50AM, casemoney wrote:several sources saying it was that baldy **** abu ??Anyone else heard this? Would be bizarre if correct.

Media know the name, but anyone who writes it may be in serious kerfuffle. So it's best not to speculate until the police formally name him.

Attacker shot by one of Michael Fallons personal protection team.

everyone carry on with their buisness,
unless your the most guarded women in the world ie the queen who cancelled her visit

I don't see how they'd be in "serious kerfuffle" if it's the same name as CH4 revealed..

"This attacker is not of my religion, nor of my community," says Labour's Khalid Mahmood

"If they were of a religion, they would not commit acts like this."

I'm sorry but they are - and what are your religion and community going to do about that absolute fact?

Mar 23, 2017 -- 7:36AM, guinness2dear wrote:

I don't see how they'd be in "serious kerfuffle" if it's the same name as CH4 revealed..

Well if they release the name of an individual as C4 did and it turns out to be incorrect again despite all sources seemingly pointing in the same direction heads will roll and wallets will be open.

There's no gain from naming until the Police do.

But this person isnt really british - cult members are never that - they are islam first second and last

And if it's the same name (which i said)

It is not a religion.  When will people realise this.

Mar 23, 2017 -- 7:41AM, guinness2dear wrote:

And if it's the same name (which i said)

The source still could turn out to be wrong.

Then it would be CH4'S fault still..

Mar 23, 2017 -- 7:48AM, guinness2dear wrote:

Then it would be CH4'S fault still..

Not if there is reasonable doubt that the C4 story is untrue.

If its not him, why hasn't someone confirmed that he is still alive and well. Can't be that difficult

I'm talking to an inmate of Bedlam.


Now where's that ghost fred.............

Attacker shot by one of Michael Fallons personal protection team.

Why has Michael Fallon got a personal protection team? He was never at Northern Ireland. Do Defence Secretaries need bodyguards now, since Iraq? Was Fallon this nutjob's target?

i would not like to be the most guarded woman in the world.

Mar 23, 2017 -- 8:02AM, Ramruma wrote:

Attacker shot by one of Michael Fallons personal protection team.Why has Michael Fallon got a personal protection team? He was never at Northern Ireland. Do Defence Secretaries need bodyguards now, since Iraq? Was Fallon this nutjob's target?

Defence, Foreign, Home and NI have them.

so it was a complete fluke and conicidence that someone was on hand to take this fella down so quickly,maybe someone should tell all these mp,s fighting to get on tv to say how could the security was

perhaps he thought he would spot Fallon on Westminster bridge, that would seem logical and gives us a link to iraq

I was under the impression there was at least one gun on every gate as I walk by there a lot.  Clearly I was wrong and there was NO gun on that particular gate.  They simply patrol around.  Very bad security.  But then it was only cops and civilians murdered and maimed.  So as long as the fat cats were protected, SECURITY DIDN'T FAIL.   Fkn sick.
Ps
Nothing will change.  Security will be beefed up and the rest of the nation can go and get fked.
Meanwhile one culture will grow and grow like topsey.  It ain't going to end prettily.

I don't understand why the place officers stab vest didn't save him from being stabbed to death.

Presumably a stab vest only protects the torso. He might have been stabbed above or below it, both of which could obviously still be fatal.

Yes. Just read an eye witness account , which states he saw the officer being stabbed in the back of the head and neck

Hope the woman who jumped into river to avoid car is ok,good reactions /instincts

The woman was rescued and is fine. But I am wondering how the police officer let himself get stabbed? Surely he knew what this guy was upto? Or was it a suprise attack? Can't be a surprise attack because this guy was speeding over the bridge and then crashed his car, and then started attacking people. Surely he couldn't have caught a policeman by surprise after doing all this?

Of course he could have caught him by surprise. The whole event took just seconds and that area is very busy and very loud, the policeman might not have known a thing until it too late. Plus the murderer looked to be hefty and strong and he had a knife in each hand. Nightmare situation.

He mowed people down with his car on the bridge.He then ran a fairway to get to the entrance gate to HoP. Doubt the officer followed the assailants route. He would have just run through the gate , catching the police by surprise.
The officer he stabbed was not armed, but two others were and they shot him, as soon as they realised what was happening.

He mist have heard the car crashing and be looking in that direction.

Sorry Torq,, didn't see your post before I sent mine.

Apparently the vehicle used was hired from Enterprise in Solihull. The woman in the Thames was struck by the car as was her fiancé.

Hearing a car crashing a fair bit away you would not neccesarily presume that anyone running in your direction was about to stab you in the neck.

No problem Facts. Nice to agree on something for a change!

Indeed

Spose not. Why would a 6ft 2in mussie carrying 2 knives charging around a bend attacking coppers make you think that...

Ye pair of títs, btw

Do you ever have a nice word to say about anybody g2d ?

My guess would be that PC Palmer was taken by surprise. He was a former soldier and trained policeman, I think if he had any time to prepare for the attack at all, he would at least have been able to deflect the blows with his arms long enough for help to arrive.

Yes. I save them for genuine compos mentis peeps... Sadly lacking in you IAN..

guinness2dear    23 Mar 17 14:03 
Spose not. Why would a 6ft 2in mussie carrying 2 knives charging around a bend attacking coppers make you think that...

Then why was he stabbed, and why weren't the armed police already taking aim , as he charged toward the gate ?

Well we've had Parliament calling him "Brave" more tthan once in 24 hours. What would that tell you?

Spose not. Why would a 6ft 2in mussie carrying 2 knives charging around a bend attacking coppers make you think that...

Okay he must have been suicidal and just stood there waiting to get his throat cut.

IAN: I think that's more to do with the fact that there was a serious security breach and of course most are very slow to react. I.E. firing with warnings..

I've no idea. Do tell, I'm not 'cm' apparently.

And of course the public about, no clear shot etc.

As i just said (which you conveniently ignored) we don't know what the ("brave") copper did...

I replied at 14.14 along with two other posts. You stated ' brave' what does that tell you, I replied I don't know.
How was that me   ' conveniently ignoring ' you ???

iAN; I was talking to the other compos mentis one..

Please keep up, i know it's difficult.

Fair enough. not Ian btw, that old joke was crap when you ? first came out with it, years ago !

I'm afraid i can't take credit for it. Not guilty sir!

Islamified - no forget that - a member of Islam doing the work of the Prophet.  Quite simple.

Btw; "Brave would suggest to me that the man put up a fight.

Having said that, there has been more false news in the last 24 hours regarding this tragedy than the whole of The Napoleonic Wars..

religious fervor whipped up to a frenzy.  Then ATTACK.

My morning post removed. I made the mistake of blaming Islam..

Sorry mods.

Mine removed too Injera.

Kuenssberg and the BBC sticking the boot into the government and security forces.Twunts!

Guinness, I was shocked to see how easily the soldier at Orly airport was rendered useless. The terrorist had hold of her and the gun for minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MJfIwfZS5c

I stopped watching the news completely this year but i still read some

I think we are watching one huge soap opera or whatever they call it

Like i always say why is there never clear pictures in Airports etc

You can get a better picture from a £40 smartphone than that youtube clip

I can't listen to newsreaders reading from a script that they know nothing about true or not


The ejits writing the script make up whatever they like and feed us old tosh.Do they still mention unemployment figures are falling ? Due to sanctions not more work may i add.

Well ye are talking about Frogland, Saddo..

He should have been taken out before he went 10 yards.

what sanctions are those? Saddo is doing alright, they haven't had his benefits off him yet.

He should have been taken out before he went 10 yards

Get out more, life isn't like on  your facking megadrive

Ever win world cup on megadrive in Italia 90

Goooooaaalllll and keeper stays in the air after a dive