Brexit article 50 triggered 29th March...

“Free at last, Free at last, Thank God almighty we are free at last.”

I wouldn't

Suspiciously large hands?

Momentum are a disgusting organisation. They were at the Labour Party conference in my home city Liverpool and were mocking the British Army and wounded soldiers.

Even just a couple of days after Jeremy Corbyn’s re-election as Labour leader, his words last year in support of a “kinder, gentler” form of politics lie trampled in the streets of Liverpool.

To represent its public face, the pro-Corbyn Momentum party-within-a-party uses clean, fresh, articulate young people whose sincerity and niceness just oozes out. Every inoffensive, meaningless, trite cliché is used in defence of the Leader whenever the TV cameras are around: “We just want to change the world for the better”; “Jeremy’s a different kind of politician”; “Jeremy isn’t like all the others – he tells the truth”. Their sincerity is no deception: these people actually seem to believe what they’re saying.

But then we go behind the curtain. We see what Momentum and its varied ranks of crank followers actually believe. We do this by gazing upon some of the items for sale in Momentum’s rival conference being held at the same time as Labour’s annual hate fest in Liverpool.

Momentum’s gig is modestly entitled “The World Transformed”, which says more about the organisers’ opinion of themselves than it does about their grasp on reality.

Among the various items for sale at “The World Transformed” are worthy books and DVDs, tee shirts and mugs, many of them featuring slogans espousing the principle of revolution (“we just want to change the world for the better”) and featuring the iconic image of that well known racist and mass murderer, Che Guevara.

There is the usual nasty, embittered hatred towards Labour’s opponents – mugs and shirts featuring the quote “Tories are lower than vermin” (and since Momentum members seem to believe that 80 per cent of Labour’s own MPs are “red Tories” then this description, we must assume, also applies to them).

And, inevitably, there is the standard Thatcher hatred, which is actually fairly logical, given they support a man who, in 1984, believed that the then prime minister and her Cabinet represented a “legitimate target” for IRA bombers.


But the most rancid, repulsive items on sale at “The World Transformed” don’t take aim at Tories, or capitalism itself, or the media or even Labour MPs. No, Corbyn’s shock troops, the self-appointed defenders of his regime are instead more than happy to disseminate some of the most offensive smears against British troops.

This is entirely natural, in a way. When Momentum members switch badges and march as Stop The War or People’s Assembly activists instead, the chief target of their carefully crafted hatred, vocalised in rhythmic patterns as they stomp furiously past the Houses of Parliament, Socialist Workers Party banners in hand, is the army.

Not the Russian army, obviously. Not the barbarian militias of Isil or the murdering child-killers of the Syrian regime. The British Army.

In the 1980s there was a persistent and tiresome argument that some local Labour-controlled councils insisted on making against army recruitment in schools. The profession of soldier was not one to which working class kids should aspire, was the refrain, and recruiters only targeted schools in poor areas because (so the leftists’ argument went) the kids in poorer areas were too thick to do anything else except dress up in uniform and kill people for money.


These men come from the communities Labour was founded to represent
These men come from the communities Labour was founded to represent
That ill-informed, anti-military, anti-working class argument was based on a hard left notion, often championed by revolutionary parties (but echoed by their fellow travellers in the Labour Party), that patriotism itself was wrong, that loyalty to one’s fellow human beings, wherever they lived, was more important than loyalty to the strip of land that you happened, arbitrarily, to have been b

Spotty will not be happy!

Absent friends do nae count innit..

C'est la vie Monsieurs......

1st fly

Here he is, the stalking Scandinavian Haven making s fool of himself as usual. Claiming I am passing somebody else's work off as my own after I clearly admitted googling it and copy and pasting. Also, what a hypocrite having a go at somebody on YouTube for trying to get him banned when he has been doing the same to me for months. Also, obsessed with my working hours - I probably put in more hours in a week than he does in six months!

I'm centre- left an would rather vote for thatcher than those momentum fcukerd

You didn't use italics or bold it and it started off as "my home city of Liverpool", only when asked did you say.

yep def scand - he only admitted it was a c+p when g2d (realising that it couldn't poss have been talkmadder who wrote it) questioned the origin.

Pathetic from Scandinavian and Dave. It was obvious that it was a cut and paste job, never in doubt at all hence Guinness's question about its author, whereupon an honest answer was immediately given.  Embarrassing for him, Scandinavian Haven did not notice this quick reply underneath and made the completely unwarranted plagiarism accusation (which has now been removed I see. Hmmm, how interesting). Dave trying to defend the indefensible just to get at me is absolutely cringeworthy.

You pair make total fools of yourselves with nonsense like this so often it is amazing you have the front to keep coming back. Have you no shame at all?

I wonder why Scandinavian Haven's first post was removed? It wasn't particularly abusive, quite mild in fact by his standards. I certainly didn't report it and I can't imagine why anyone else would either. Could it be that the mods are just fed up with his constant nonsense perhaps?

A list of the MP'S who voted against BREXIT



LABOUR:


Heidi Alexander, Lewisham East

Rushanara Ali, Bethnal Green and Bow

Graham Allen, Nottingham North

Rosena Allin-Khan, Tooting

Luciana Berger, Liverpool Wavertree

Ben Bradshaw, Exeter

Kevin Brennan, Cardiff West

Lyn Brown, West Ham

Chris Bryant, Rhondda

Karen Buck, Westminster North

Dawn Butler, Brent Central

Ruth Cadbury, Brentford and Isleworth

Ann Clwyd, Cynon Valley

Ann Coffey, Stockport

Neil Coyle, Bermondsey and Old Southwark

Mary Creagh, Wakefield

Stella Creasy, Walthamstow

Thangam Debbonaire, Bristol West

Stephen Doughty, Cardiff South and Penarth

Jim Dowd, Lewisham West and Penge

Maria Eagle, Garston and Halewood

Louise Ellman, Liverpool Riverside

Paul Farrelly, Newcastle-under-Lyme

Vicky Foxcroft, Lewisham, Deptford

Mike Gapes, Ilford South

Lilian Greenwood, Nottingham South

Helen Hayes, Dulwich and West Norwood

Meg Hiller, Hackney South and Shoreditch

Rupa Huq, Ealing Central and Acton

Peter Kyle, Hove

David Lammy, Tottenham

Rachael Maskell, York Central

Kerry McCarthy, Bristol East

Catherine McKinnell, Newcastle-upon-Tyne North

Madeleine Moon, Bridgend

Ian Murray, Edinburgh South

Stephen Pound, Ealing North

Virendra Sharma, Ealing Southall

Tulip Siddiq, Hampstead and Kilburn

Andy Slaughter, Hammersmith

Jeff Smith, Manchester Withington

Owen Smith, Pontypridd

Jo Stevens, Cardiff Central

Stephen Timms, East Ham

Catherine West, Hornsey and Wood Green

Alan Whitehead, Southampton Test

Daniel Zeichner, Cambridge



Lib Dems:

Tom Brake, Carshalton and Wallington

Alistair Carmichael, Orkney and Shetland

Nick Clegg, Sheffield Hallam

Tim Farron, Westmorland and Lonsdale

Sarah Olney, Richmond Park

John Pugh, Southport

Mark Williams, Ceredigion




CONSERVATIVES:

Ken Clarke, Rushcliffe



SNP

Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh, Ochil and South Perthshire

Richard Arkless, Dumfries and Galloway

Hannah Bardell, Livingston

Mhairi Black, Paisley and Renfrewshire South

Ian Blackford, Ross, Sky and Lochaber

Kirstey Blackman, Aberdeen North

Philip Boswell, Coatbridge, Chryston and Bellshill

Deidre Brock, Edinburgh North and Leith

Alan Brown, KIlmarnock and Loudoun

Lisa Cameron, East Kilbride, Strathaven and Lesmahagow

Douglas Chapman, Dunfermline and West Fife

Joanna Cherry, Edinburgh South West

Ronnie Cowan, Inverclyde

Angela Crawley, Lanark and Hamilton East

Martyn Day, Linlithgow and East Falkirk

Martin Docherty-Hughes, West Dunbartonshire

Stuart Blair Donaldson, West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine

Margaret Ferrier, Rutherglen and Hamilton West

Stephen Gethins, North East Fife

Patricia Gibson, North Ayrshire and Arran

Patrick Grady, Glenrothes

Neil Gray, Aidrie and Shotts

Drew Hendry, Inverness, Nairn, Badenoch and Strathspey

Stewart Hosie, Dundee East

George Kerevan, East Lothian

Calum Kerr, Berwickshire, Roxburgh and Selkirk

Chris Law, Dundee West

Angus Brendan MacNeil,

John McNally, Falkirk

Stewart McDonald, Glasgow South

Stuart McDonald, Cumbernauld, Kilsyth and Kirkintilloch East

Anne McLaughlin, Glasgow North East

Carol Monaghan, Glasgow North West

Paul Monaghan, Cathness, Sutherland and Easter Ross

Roger Mullin, Kirkcaldy and Cowdenbeath

Gavin Newlands, Paisley and Renfrewshire North

John Nicholson, East Dunbartonshire,

Brendan O'Hara, Argyll and Bute

Kirsten Oswald, East Renfrewshire

Steven Paterson, Stirling

Angus Robertson, Moray

Alex Salmond, Gordon

Tommy Sheppard, Edinburgh East

Chris Stephens, Glasgow South West

Alison Thewliss, Glasgow Central

Mike Weir, Angus

Elidh Whiteford, Banff and Buchan

Philippa Whitford, Central Ayrshire

Pete Wishart, Perth and North Perthshire

Marion Fellows, Motherwell and Wishaw



Green Party:

Caroline Lucas, Brighton Pavilion



Plaid Cymru:

Liz Saville Roberts, Dwyfor Meirionnydd

Hywel Williams, Arfon



Independent:

Lady Harmon, North Down

Natalie McGarry, Glasgow East

Michella Thomson, Edinburgh West



Social Democratic and Labour Party:

Mark Durkan, Foyle

Alasdair McDonnell, Belfast South

Margaret Ritchie, South Down
Ken Clarke, Rushcliffe

To save time in the future just say ALL SNP MPs,not one of them allowed or strong willed enough to veer from the party line.

Is this being broadcast anywhere?

Have we left the building yet?

Pat Grady (SNP) speaking now ... WALOFS!

Most people I speak to up here are for Brexit now that it's been triggered.

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