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09 Mar 17
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I watched that thing anxious was talking about, they all seemed quite nice.
apart from the man from Syria who had the cheek to complain that America wasn't bringing democracy to Syria
most people are, except one cult that want you to think only THEIR way AND CANNOT BE CHALLENGED
hope this helps
hope this helps
It's ok Torquemada, he made sure to protray the Muslims as perfectly sane.
He wasn't so worried about doing so with the Europeans and Americans
He wasn't so worried about doing so with the Europeans and Americans
lfc What about the merchant who was a fan of that far right nutter brehvik or what ever is name was
Really a fan of a murdering right wing terrorist who killed 69 youngsters in Norway , yeah sure he was proper weirdo
He had the look of a college professor, very distinguished. He did say anxious that what brevity did could not b condoned
:) I laughted at that also, he was very quick to explain
nevertheless the usual message was there, no one believes these leftists now the film was so predictable
lfc you cannot seriously say that the people on them videos were rational , I mean you only had to look the 2 Trump supporters the pair of them were Borderline Psychotic
I don't know, I liked them. I liked the Norwegian woman who was complaining about immigrants and her partner was going hmmm, and then he pointed out to her he was an immigrant she said tut tut don't be silly :)
You seem to like most people lfc with respect isn't that a little bit naive
I don't know how to answer that anxious, so I won't try to :)
goodnight, best get some sleep golf in the morning
goodnight, best get some sleep golf in the morning
http://www.dw.com/en/arrests-made-following-terror-threat-on-essen-shopping-...
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/03/surprise-dusseldorf-axe-attacker-inj...
Authorities said the attacker Fatmir H. is a Muslim from Kosovo but at this time they are ruling out terrorism.
The attacker was identified last night as Muslim Fatmir H. from Kosovo but authorities are not calling this a terror attack.
Seven people including two police officers were injured when a man wielding an axe went on the rampage at a train station in Dusseldorf.
The suspected culprit, identified as Fatmir H, from Kosovo, has been arrested and German anti-terror police confirmed they are not hunting anyone else.
The 36-year-old ran towards a nearby underground station and jumped from a bridge as he attempted to flee.
But he was arrested after seriously injuring himself in his unsuccessful escape attempt and is now being treated in hospital.
Police said he was in an ‘exceptional mental state’ at the time.
Pictures from Düsseldorf Hauptbahnhof, the city’s main station, showed one of the victims lying helplessly on the floor as paramedics rushed to their aid.
His victims included three men, a woman and a 13-year-old girl, with the teenager suffering lacerations to her upper arm. Three were seriously injured.
A motive for the attack has not yet been determined but the suspect, believed to be from Kosovo, suffers from mental health problems. Police said this morning that they had ruled out an Islamic fundamentalist motive for the attack.
Seven people including two police officers were injured when a man wielding an axe went on the rampage at a train station in Dusseldorf.
The suspected culprit, identified as Fatmir H, from Kosovo, has been arrested and German anti-terror police confirmed they are not hunting anyone else.
The 36-year-old ran towards a nearby underground station and jumped from a bridge as he attempted to flee.
But he was arrested after seriously injuring himself in his unsuccessful escape attempt and is now being treated in hospital.
Police said he was in an ‘exceptional mental state’ at the time.
Pictures from Düsseldorf Hauptbahnhof, the city’s main station, showed one of the victims lying helplessly on the floor as paramedics rushed to their aid.
His victims included three men, a woman and a 13-year-old girl, with the teenager suffering lacerations to her upper arm. Three were seriously injured.
A motive for the attack has not yet been determined but the suspect, believed to be from Kosovo, suffers from mental health problems. Police said this morning that they had ruled out an Islamic fundamentalist motive for the attack.
Why do the press have to mention the mans religion, are they not bigots ?
I see the islamification of germany and holland has received a bit of a set back. The ottoman dictator has failed THIS TIME.
Dave the Knave and his cheerleader Donny have retired tired and emotional after showing themselves up with hissy fits of lies and nonsense. Will they ever learn? 
Pleasing scenes in Rotterdam last night with the Dutch Gov't having some balls ...
http://www.dw.com/en/turkeys-cavusoglu-netherlands-is-capital-of-fascism/a-37910611
Meanwhile, another attack foiled in Offenberg last night ...
http://www.dw.com/en/german-police-detain-suspect-over-night-club-attack-threat-in-offenburg/a-37910502
http://www.dw.com/en/turkeys-cavusoglu-netherlands-is-capital-of-fascism/a-37910611
Meanwhile, another attack foiled in Offenberg last night ...
http://www.dw.com/en/german-police-detain-suspect-over-night-club-attack-threat-in-offenburg/a-37910502
I saw that as well Trilby. Hopefully the saner people of Europe are starting to see things clearly at last and things will really begin to change for the better.
Good heavens! No wonder my ears were burning yesterday, that is quite a lively debate, gentlemen. I note with some dismay that Dave's original insult has fallen foul of the moderators; always rather a vexing occurrence as it renders any witty riposte adrift in the wild.
Out flew the toys and floated wide;
the pram rocked wildly side to side;
"The nurse has come upon me," cried
Poor Dave who lost the plot.
Master drifting down the Swannee;
From the mire steps loyal Donny;
Hélas pour eux, pas une bonne nuit;
Is that the best they've got?
Like Tennyson I do suffer greatly for my art, hopefully one or two of the more scholarly souls might appreciate it. :)
Out flew the toys and floated wide;
the pram rocked wildly side to side;
"The nurse has come upon me," cried
Poor Dave who lost the plot.
Master drifting down the Swannee;
From the mire steps loyal Donny;
Hélas pour eux, pas une bonne nuit;
Is that the best they've got?
Like Tennyson I do suffer greatly for my art, hopefully one or two of the more scholarly souls might appreciate it. :)
Should be noted that by repeating the absurd 'he was from the former Yugoslavia' quote, the MSM have failed to fool the public. In fact they have succeeded in reinforcing the suspicion we have towards them, the Govt and all stations in between.
They keep treating us as fools which is a shameless mistake.. Mrs Merkel will need all the luck in the world when she goes to the polls.
They keep treating us as fools which is a shameless mistake.. Mrs Merkel will need all the luck in the world when she goes to the polls.
I agree, Injera, the constant misinformation is almost certainly counter productive. Who knows though, sir, perhaps that is the hidden agenda?
Treating us like mushrooms - kept in the dark and fed on etc etc.
PM - their agenda I think is the destruction of all thinks traditional/conservative/Christian/Jewish.
By turning a blind eye to the threat Islam poses to all of the above, this goal becomes achievable....
Worrying times indeed my friend but the people are arising from their slumber, possibly just in time.
By turning a blind eye to the threat Islam poses to all of the above, this goal becomes achievable....
Worrying times indeed my friend but the people are arising from their slumber, possibly just in time.
There are some Dutch elections coming up aren't there? That should be interesting now.
And possibly Italian and Greek elections at any time at all. 
I have a feeling that a 'biggun' is being laid out for sometime soon. They are getting their arses kicked all over the place; and all the Germanic interest is probably just a smokescreen..
yea ,thats the first round with the final on Sunday May 7th
Looks a tight 3 horse race but its where the defeated first round voters go imo
Looks a tight 3 horse race but its where the defeated first round voters go imo
Double DD are used to an arse kicking, their wives apply linseed oil nightly...
German tourists love Italy.
German tourists love Italy.
poker can quote what he wants but still used a mis quote to make a point
no two ways about it
no two ways about it
But, but, but...... he used a capital W, miss, instead of a little w!
I'll never tire of reminding Donny and Dave about that!
Desperate stuff from Donny and Dave, PM makes them look foolish.
I'll never tire of reminding Donny and Dave about that!
Desperate stuff from Donny and Dave, PM makes them look foolish.
Hopefully the Luvvies will be Busy making Sunday Tea for their Refugee codgers
When will they Learn that as soon as the Beeb Mention Mental Illness its 1.01 Terror
Pokermonster's little ditty sting a bit did it Donny? The gulf in smarts between him and you two jokers is painful to see mate, it's a mismatch.
I think Dave the Knave and his sidekick Donny don't like to face the truth! 
Terrorism in Europe has gone on as long as most of my living memory I even lived in Paris
when nail bombs were going off all over the place and armed military manned Paris's main
stations.The threat you talk about has always existed but without a voice a threat diminishes
I think the fears of most people on here well outweighs the actual physical danger they are
in and by amplifying this they seem to reinforce a kind of Xenophobia that has negative
consequences so as to make divisions within society.
when nail bombs were going off all over the place and armed military manned Paris's main
stations.The threat you talk about has always existed but without a voice a threat diminishes
I think the fears of most people on here well outweighs the actual physical danger they are
in and by amplifying this they seem to reinforce a kind of Xenophobia that has negative
consequences so as to make divisions within society.
That long post of yours is actually quite reasonable, Breedingmad. I don't agree with all of it, but at least respect it as a point of view because you wrote it fairly as an opinion. Perhaps the tide is turning.
153 dead in Paris shootings, Stade De France Stadium Explosions all seem to be a distant memory, If the same had happened at say Wembley and The Royal Albert Hall would everybody be so carefree and laissez-faire about the situation. I think not.
we have had plenty of terrorism in this country over the past 40 years or so
i dont think brits are laissez-faire about it
i dont think brits are laissez-faire about it
7/7 Etc hardly Forgotten Never Mind Paris ,The Problem is that these Incidents are now Expected and Accepted ,One Just hopes not to be Involved in Them .
The threat europe faces is a vastly different proposition now. The military wing of the organisation has ACTUAL support here in the UK and europe wide. Polls have shown this. Of course we know a europhile like bleeding is going to pitch the 'WELL THERE REALLY ISN'T MUCH DANGER AT ALL' propaganda. But then he has an agenda to follow from his eu masters and his connections.
That was despicable from Khan. Odious individual. There should be a mechanism to sack elected officials like him when they come out with stuff like that - or at the very least force another election.
In other news...
Are the Turks stirring it up in Rotterdam over the weekend ?
Just the final push Geert Wilders campaign needed going into the Election this week.
Are the Turks stirring it up in Rotterdam over the weekend ?
Just the final push Geert Wilders campaign needed going into the Election this week.
his poll rating is falling, very surprising given events of the last week or so
maybe he will get the late undetected ( by polls) surge of votes in real event ?
maybe he will get the late undetected ( by polls) surge of votes in real event ?
The old saying 'a week in politics is a long time' comes to mind, this should be an interesting week in Holland.
should get even more interesting after the vote too
It has just clicked with me why erdthegoon has gone berserk!! They don't like dogs so much do they. Guess what they did to rioting muslims. Yep, turned the dogs on them!!!
Is this a right wing group/publisher - I was not aware of them before.
http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.3807/no-new-police-station-in-rinkeby-no-one-dares-build-it.html
http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.3807/no-new-police-station-in-rinkeby-no-one-dares-build-it.html
Saudi Historian Al-Saadoon: Women Share Responsibility If Raped by Foreign Taxi Drivers
In a follow up to a previous show, in which he said that for Western women, getting raped is not a cultural problem, Saudi historian Saleh Al-Saadoon claimed that his comments were falsely translated. Later on in the show he said that women who ride taxis driven by foreign drivers share the responsibility if they get raped.
Following are excerpts:
Reporter: On January 11, we held a discussion on our program with Saudi historian Dr. Saleh Al-Saddoon, who believes that the West conspires against Saudi women.
Saleh Al-Saadoon: Women used to ride camels, so one might ask what prevents them from driving cars. In Saudi Arabia, we have special circumstances. The city of Arar is 150 km away from Al-Jawf. From Al-Awf to Al-Ha’il it is 400 km. If a woman drives from one city to another and her car breaks down, what will become of her?
Reporter: Well, women drive in America, in Europe, and in the Arab world…
Saleh Al-Saadoon: They don’t care if they are raped on the roadside, but we do…
Reporter: Hold on, who told you that they don’t care about getting raped by the roadside?
Saleh Al-Saadoon: It’s no big deal for them beyond the damage to their morale.
Reporter: A few days ago, about a month after the interview, excerpts from the interview appeared in Western and European media and other outlets. The international press published detailed excerpts in various languages. Why did the interview raise such a great uproar, and how does Dr. Al-Saadoon respond to the international media coverage of his views on women’s driving?
[…]
Saleh Al-Saadoon: [The media’s response to what I said] was a surprise by any standard. I was especially surprised by the false translation. This was not an objective translation or a simple mistake. This was a deliberate and methodical falsification. I don’t know if…
Reporter: How can you talk about falsification? They presented a video excerpt, not just something written. What was written was a detailed translation of the interview.
Saleh Al-Saadoon: They translated what I said. As you recall, sister Nadeen, we talked, but I did not say: “Women who drive cars do not care about being raped.” The Daily Mail, for example, wrote: “A Saudi historian says that American women drive cars because rape is no big deal for them.” This is not what I said.
[…]
I explained that they have no problem [with rape] from the religious and social aspects. Their problem is limited to their morale and to psychological aspects. I continue to maintain this. Western women are liberal. They are not governed by Christianity. They do not believe in Christianity.
[…]
Unless they are old, Western women are usually not religious – except for a handful of women who go proselytizing in Africa.
[…]
According to Islamic scholars, women are forbidden to ride in a taxi driven by a foreigner. If she does so, and the driver kidnaps and rapes her, she will be partially responsible, because she exposed herself to danger.
[…]
This is not my view. I’m just telling you the view of society. Don’t blame me for conveying the views of 80% of Arab and Islamic society.
[…]
Reporter: Some people turn the victim into the criminal, but these views do not represent 80% of us.
Saleh Al-Saadoon: Many Saudis, Arabs, and Muslims hold this view – regardless of whether it is 70% or 90%.
In a follow up to a previous show, in which he said that for Western women, getting raped is not a cultural problem, Saudi historian Saleh Al-Saadoon claimed that his comments were falsely translated. Later on in the show he said that women who ride taxis driven by foreign drivers share the responsibility if they get raped.
Following are excerpts:
Reporter: On January 11, we held a discussion on our program with Saudi historian Dr. Saleh Al-Saddoon, who believes that the West conspires against Saudi women.
Saleh Al-Saadoon: Women used to ride camels, so one might ask what prevents them from driving cars. In Saudi Arabia, we have special circumstances. The city of Arar is 150 km away from Al-Jawf. From Al-Awf to Al-Ha’il it is 400 km. If a woman drives from one city to another and her car breaks down, what will become of her?
Reporter: Well, women drive in America, in Europe, and in the Arab world…
Saleh Al-Saadoon: They don’t care if they are raped on the roadside, but we do…
Reporter: Hold on, who told you that they don’t care about getting raped by the roadside?
Saleh Al-Saadoon: It’s no big deal for them beyond the damage to their morale.
Reporter: A few days ago, about a month after the interview, excerpts from the interview appeared in Western and European media and other outlets. The international press published detailed excerpts in various languages. Why did the interview raise such a great uproar, and how does Dr. Al-Saadoon respond to the international media coverage of his views on women’s driving?
[…]
Saleh Al-Saadoon: [The media’s response to what I said] was a surprise by any standard. I was especially surprised by the false translation. This was not an objective translation or a simple mistake. This was a deliberate and methodical falsification. I don’t know if…
Reporter: How can you talk about falsification? They presented a video excerpt, not just something written. What was written was a detailed translation of the interview.
Saleh Al-Saadoon: They translated what I said. As you recall, sister Nadeen, we talked, but I did not say: “Women who drive cars do not care about being raped.” The Daily Mail, for example, wrote: “A Saudi historian says that American women drive cars because rape is no big deal for them.” This is not what I said.
[…]
I explained that they have no problem [with rape] from the religious and social aspects. Their problem is limited to their morale and to psychological aspects. I continue to maintain this. Western women are liberal. They are not governed by Christianity. They do not believe in Christianity.
[…]
Unless they are old, Western women are usually not religious – except for a handful of women who go proselytizing in Africa.
[…]
According to Islamic scholars, women are forbidden to ride in a taxi driven by a foreigner. If she does so, and the driver kidnaps and rapes her, she will be partially responsible, because she exposed herself to danger.
[…]
This is not my view. I’m just telling you the view of society. Don’t blame me for conveying the views of 80% of Arab and Islamic society.
[…]
Reporter: Some people turn the victim into the criminal, but these views do not represent 80% of us.
Saleh Al-Saadoon: Many Saudis, Arabs, and Muslims hold this view – regardless of whether it is 70% or 90%.
This is just right wing (whoops I mean) alt right propaganda.(sorry I slipped off the agenda newspeak agenda). We have to understand they have different cultural views and expectations. The poor things. Ah bless.
It's a shame us humans are so extremely different to each other we can't get on together. us Brits would never fall for this religious baloney
and divide people over their religious beliefs, now would we!.
and divide people over their religious beliefs, now would we!.
How typical. Make something of a totally irrelevant aspect of the thread title instead of its real issues. Anyone else notice a pattern here?
The eu open door supporters simply don't want to discuss or even know about it
Their 'free speech' newspaper, the guardian does exactly that and they follow the eu agenda and the newpaper's line.
If you only read the guardian you would think the only problem around was trump and wee Nickie (plus a little bit of corbyn)
Their 'free speech' newspaper, the guardian does exactly that and they follow the eu agenda and the newpaper's line.
If you only read the guardian you would think the only problem around was trump and wee Nickie (plus a little bit of corbyn)
I've heard virtually nothing about this attack since the day it happened. Anybody know of any new info?
Is it deliberately being kept out of the news because of the Dutch election tomorrow?
That's a very creepy picture btw Guinness. He looks like something out of a horror film.
don't read the evening standard or the stuff about preston elsewhere - I would be accused of being a bigot if I told you to look
@ needs to learn about caps starting sentences before he preaches (when my backs turned)
But he will keep for another day..
But he will keep for another day..
some stations I have seen need more than attacking - they need demolition!!! some awful examples around!!!
Virtual silence from media on this despicable attack. Sickening how these sort of terrorist incidents are deliberately hushed up so as not to offend a certain religion!
Torquemada 19 Mar 17 00:30
Have they named the Duesseldorf attacker yet?
He has been named on this thread at least twice.
Have they named the Duesseldorf attacker yet?
He has been named on this thread at least twice.
Page 5 by me and page 7 by trilby, if that helps, and my settings are 40 posts per page.
Fatmir H you mean? I meant his full name not an abbreviation, which on past form might bear little relation to the truth.
I've still heard nothing more on the news about these two attackers, it's deliberately being kept quiet.
Now there's a thing.. MSM being their usual cuddly selves.. Maybe we should start calling them "The Trojan Media?
Successfully hushed up as per the EU's orders. London next, then Brussels, then Stockholm. The EU left are a disgrace.
Of course what isn't being hushed up is the state of the asylum seeker who was beaten up last week in Croydon.On the local BBC radio news we have virtually hour by hour reports on his latest medical condition..i wonder why!
What i can't work out is why they haven't done a ferry or boat yet? It would seem the ideal terrorist plot. Maybe they're scared of water?
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