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11 Feb 17
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health wise ?
i.e. limited sugar.
i.e. limited sugar.
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milk should be totally avoided - it's a weaning food. it contains a hormone called RBST - not good. Commercial milks bad. You need to source it properly.
They also feed cattle GM grain. Does this filter to the milk? you decide.
They also feed cattle GM grain. Does this filter to the milk? you decide.
I agree with Zorro.
We are the only species of mammal that drink milk as an adult. Milk from a cow is for baby cows.
I keep my intake of milk to a minimum.
We are the only species of mammal that drink milk as an adult. Milk from a cow is for baby cows.
I keep my intake of milk to a minimum.
We're the only mammal with the intelligence and dexterity to milk another mammal.
Full-cream milk for me. Don't see the point of drinking your skimmed or semi-skimmed. Why consume something from which all the goodness has been removed?
I put a lot of obesity down to low-fat diets. They leave you feeling hungry, so you go and snack on junk in between meals.
Here's a good recipe for crab bisque: tin of shredded crab out of Lidl, tin of Campbell's condensed cream of chicken soup, equal quantity of full-cream milk and a piece of butter; flavour with Hungarian sweet paprika (the expensive bit).
Wonderful stuff. But just imagine it with semi-skimmed or water. You'd be straight into a packet of biscuits half an hour later.
Full-cream milk for me. Don't see the point of drinking your skimmed or semi-skimmed. Why consume something from which all the goodness has been removed?
I put a lot of obesity down to low-fat diets. They leave you feeling hungry, so you go and snack on junk in between meals.
Here's a good recipe for crab bisque: tin of shredded crab out of Lidl, tin of Campbell's condensed cream of chicken soup, equal quantity of full-cream milk and a piece of butter; flavour with Hungarian sweet paprika (the expensive bit).
Wonderful stuff. But just imagine it with semi-skimmed or water. You'd be straight into a packet of biscuits half an hour later.
rBST has not been allowed on the market in Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, Israel, or the European Union since 2000. Argentina also banned the use of rBST.
goat milk ?
why are we disgusted by people milk - all of it is freaky - it's a food designed for kids. to put weight on quickly - a weaning food.
GM feed? for all the animals - banned for people? we eat the animals? ergo.
why are we disgusted by people milk - all of it is freaky - it's a food designed for kids. to put weight on quickly - a weaning food.
GM feed? for all the animals - banned for people? we eat the animals? ergo.
Any milk that has gone through the digestive system of Diane Abbott for me
"They also feed cattle GM grain. Does this filter to the milk ?"
Suppose it must do, always been concerned about this with milk. I don't eat meat but the routine use and overuse of antibiotics in farm animals, plus the GM stuff they are fed, it must filter through to the milk (?) We have tried other alternatives but still come back to whole milk, but cows are pumped full of antibiotics so how safe is it really and the risk of cancer. And the GM stuff = artificial food ! Can't be sure it's safe !
Suppose it must do, always been concerned about this with milk. I don't eat meat but the routine use and overuse of antibiotics in farm animals, plus the GM stuff they are fed, it must filter through to the milk (?) We have tried other alternatives but still come back to whole milk, but cows are pumped full of antibiotics so how safe is it really and the risk of cancer. And the GM stuff = artificial food ! Can't be sure it's safe !
Organic. Full cream.
Bit more expensive but 4 litres for £3 from Tesco ain't bad.
I drink a lot of milk (still) and it helped me put weight back on when I wasn't well. Avoid semi-skimmed and all that white water stuff, as it's the cream that contains the goodness.
Bit more expensive but 4 litres for £3 from Tesco ain't bad.
I drink a lot of milk (still) and it helped me put weight back on when I wasn't well. Avoid semi-skimmed and all that white water stuff, as it's the cream that contains the goodness.
Full fat milk on cereals and coffee but semi skimmed in tea.
I cba to faff about having different bottles of milk in the fridge, think I will try the more expensive full cream milk only from now, I usually by semi skimmed just because it's 4 pints for £1. However I will take the plung and splash out a bit more.
I don't drink milk or eat butter as they don't agree with me, but I do like yoghurt and mature cheese.
Feb 12, 2017 -- 1:06PM, scandanavian_haven wrote:
I cba to faff about having different bottles of milk in the fridge, think I will try the more expensive full cream milk only from now, I usually by semi skimmed just because it's 4 pints for £1. However I will take the plung and splash out a bit more.
Can't go wrong with organic full cream, S_H.
Feb 12, 2017 -- 1:51PM, trilby22 wrote:
Feb 12, 2017 -- 1:06PM, scandanavian_haven wrote:I cba to faff about having different bottles of milk in the fridge, think I will try the more expensive full cream milk only from now, I usually by semi skimmed just because it's 4 pints for £1. However I will take the plung and splash out a bit more.Can't go wrong with organic full cream, S_H.
I know I'm taking screaming's advice, that you passed off as your own
Why would a person of European ancestry, thereby blessed with tolerance to lactose, choose to squander that evolutionary advantage by not drinking milk?
Most of the world's population can't drink milk past childhood, having to turn it into cheese or yoghurt first. But when that single genetic mutation enabling tolerance to lactose popped up out of the blue in Europe or the Near East a few thousand years ago, it proved so beneficial that it's spread through over a third of the world's population now. It wouldn't do that unless it conferred some huge health advantage.
It's irrelevant that other animals don't drink milk past weaning. For one thing they lack that genetic advantage, and for another thing, a dog might learn to herd cattle, but how the hell is it going to milk them?
Most of the world's population can't drink milk past childhood, having to turn it into cheese or yoghurt first. But when that single genetic mutation enabling tolerance to lactose popped up out of the blue in Europe or the Near East a few thousand years ago, it proved so beneficial that it's spread through over a third of the world's population now. It wouldn't do that unless it conferred some huge health advantage.
It's irrelevant that other animals don't drink milk past weaning. For one thing they lack that genetic advantage, and for another thing, a dog might learn to herd cattle, but how the hell is it going to milk them?
and for another thing, a dog might learn to herd cattle, but how the hell is it going to milk them?
We are the only species of mammal that drink milk as an adult
why does everyone on the internet spout this **** my adult cat loved it
why does everyone on the internet spout this **** my adult cat loved it
oh and semi skimmed is for idiots the dairy industry takes the cream and resells it you to make butter,yogurt,cheese ,cream
Betting_Masta is right. Organic whole milk and preferably raw.
I buy organic whole milk. Not raw unfortunately but you would need your own cow for that, wouldn't you?
I buy organic whole milk. Not raw unfortunately but you would need your own cow for that, wouldn't you?
Surely they have made an Almond/coconut and blueberry infused milk by now
too many chemicals for that, padlock.
The pharas would be there be now.
The pharas would be there be now.
I only drink milk in tea and coffee but I drink so much of that I go through the 2 litre bottles pretty quickly.
Tea without milk is horrible, and life without tea isn't worth living.
Tea without milk is horrible, and life without tea isn't worth living.
It's easy enough to buy unpasteurised milk. I hadn't realised that. I didn't think it was legal to sell it.
I want them to legalise Casu Marzu, I want that on the Tesco shelf next to the Gouda
Mmmmmm!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMErg0xkjcs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMErg0xkjcs
Ever tried tea with lemon, J C? One of those Jif bottles lasts months.
I do enjoy loads of milk on breakfast cereals and in cream soups and such like, but it does interfere with some of the health benefits of tea.
I do enjoy loads of milk on breakfast cereals and in cream soups and such like, but it does interfere with some of the health benefits of tea.
Nope. I keep powdered milk (in fact coffee mate, it's fantastic) around so I can milk it up even if I run out!
So as I'm clear.........whole milk is full cream milk?
Good for you!
Tea with lemon is definitely a disgusting foreign habit, but then, I'm half a disgusting foreigner on my dad's side, so I'm allowed.
Tea with lemon is definitely a disgusting foreign habit, but then, I'm half a disgusting foreigner on my dad's side, so I'm allowed.
I saw almond milk today, is that worth buying ?
That's to whole milk = full cream milk.
Almond milk is gay.
Almond milk is gay.
I feel ill if I drink black tea with no milk.
Green tea is fine, I used to drink a lot of that. Not sure why I stopped, will have to buy some again.
Or camomile, I like that.
Green tea is fine, I used to drink a lot of that. Not sure why I stopped, will have to buy some again.
Or camomile, I like that.
Mouse milk
Production of low-lactose milk by ectopic expression of intestinal lactase in the mouse mammary gland.
Jost B1, Vilotte JL, Duluc I, Rodeau JL, Freund JN.
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We have investigated, in mice, an in vivo method for producing low-lactose milk, based on the creation of transgenic animals carrying a hybrid gene in which the intestinal lactase-phlorizin hydrolase cDNA was placed under the control of the mammary-specific alpha-lactalbumin promoter. Transgenic females expressed lactase protein and activity during lactation at the apical side of mammary alveolar cells. Active lactase was also secreted into milk, anchored in the outer membrane of fat globules. Lactase synthesis in the mammary gland caused a significant decrease in milk lactose (50-85%) without obvious changes in fat and protein concentrations. Sucklings nourished with low-lactose milk developed normally. Hence, these data validate the use of transgenic animals expressing lactase in the mammary gland to produce low-lactose milk in vivo, and they demonstrate that the secretion of an intestinal digestive enzyme into milk can selectively modify its composition.
Production of low-lactose milk by ectopic expression of intestinal lactase in the mouse mammary gland.
Jost B1, Vilotte JL, Duluc I, Rodeau JL, Freund JN.
Author information
Abstract
We have investigated, in mice, an in vivo method for producing low-lactose milk, based on the creation of transgenic animals carrying a hybrid gene in which the intestinal lactase-phlorizin hydrolase cDNA was placed under the control of the mammary-specific alpha-lactalbumin promoter. Transgenic females expressed lactase protein and activity during lactation at the apical side of mammary alveolar cells. Active lactase was also secreted into milk, anchored in the outer membrane of fat globules. Lactase synthesis in the mammary gland caused a significant decrease in milk lactose (50-85%) without obvious changes in fat and protein concentrations. Sucklings nourished with low-lactose milk developed normally. Hence, these data validate the use of transgenic animals expressing lactase in the mammary gland to produce low-lactose milk in vivo, and they demonstrate that the secretion of an intestinal digestive enzyme into milk can selectively modify its composition.
I'm reminded of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-OwMoAsP38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-OwMoAsP38
I'm loving Heath & Heather Green Tea with Manuka Honey at the moment 
white milk -
yellow - bananas or puss.
pink - strawberry or blood.
brown - chocolate or s?
stick to the original and best. white.
yellow - bananas or puss.
pink - strawberry or blood.
brown - chocolate or s?
stick to the original and best. white.
Back in the day, I used to wake up to the sound of milking machines, just 150 yds away.
Later the farmer came round and filled the jug left on the front step.
this was organic, full cream, and as fresh as it could be.
Later the farmer came round and filled the jug left on the front step.
this was organic, full cream, and as fresh as it could be.
Almond milk is delicious and easy to make, no need to buy it. Coffee mate is full of saturated fat and rubbish.
I would have thought it a bit risky in these days of intensive farming, to drink unpasteurised milk. The rise of bovine TB amongst badgers is a worry. Milk can carry many other pathogens including viruses. You have good health, why risk it for a fad?
almond milk is OK but it is very 'weak' and much like semi skimmed dairy milk you have to use so much when making coffee and tea - so you have to warm it up first unless you like cold coffee
Feb 13, 2017 -- 8:28AM, Aunty Post wrote:
Back in the day, I used to wake up to the sound of milking machines, just 150 yds away.Later the farmer came round and filled the jug left on the front step.this was organic, full cream, and as fresh as it could be.
that creamy white liquid wasn't milk....
almond milk is OK but it is very 'weak' and much like semi skimmed dairy milk
Talking about the shop stuff? When I make it it's very creamy.
Talking about the shop stuff? When I make it it's very creamy.
do i need a machine to make it ? - can i make it in the soup maker /smoothie maker etc
I drink raw, organic milk from a glass bottle - about as healthy as you can get where milk is concerned.
It is from an organic farm about ten miles from me and it is delivered to my doorstep twice a week. It costs £1.00 for a 500ml bottle.
I have been concerned in the past about drinking milk because of the 'we are the only mammals that drink milk' argument. But so much of our food is adulterated in some way, even 'healthy' fruit and vegetables, that milk bought this way seems okay. I mainly have it in soups and home made ice cream, yummy
Thanks for the info screamingwavesetc, it makes sense, why did great britain conquer the world, maybe because of milk
It is from an organic farm about ten miles from me and it is delivered to my doorstep twice a week. It costs £1.00 for a 500ml bottle.
I have been concerned in the past about drinking milk because of the 'we are the only mammals that drink milk' argument. But so much of our food is adulterated in some way, even 'healthy' fruit and vegetables, that milk bought this way seems okay. I mainly have it in soups and home made ice cream, yummy
Thanks for the info screamingwavesetc, it makes sense, why did great britain conquer the world, maybe because of milk
just need a hormone free milk - rogue hormones - the reason why old men have boobs 
Just about any adult mammal will drink milk, given the opportunity. Just try opening an exploding Tetrapak carton of the stuff in the presence of a dog and see what happens.
The problem is that it gives them diarrhoea, because, like most non-European people, they lack the genetic mutation making them lactose-tolerant. But if the milk is made into cheese, then lactose intolerance is no longer a problem, either for people or any other mammal. There's absolutely nothing "unnatural" about adult mammals consuming dairy products.
Even the most annoying dog will behave itself/swallow tablets/learn tricks in return for a piece of cheese.
The problem is that it gives them diarrhoea, because, like most non-European people, they lack the genetic mutation making them lactose-tolerant. But if the milk is made into cheese, then lactose intolerance is no longer a problem, either for people or any other mammal. There's absolutely nothing "unnatural" about adult mammals consuming dairy products.
Even the most annoying dog will behave itself/swallow tablets/learn tricks in return for a piece of cheese.
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