are religous people mentally ill??

They've got psychological issues when they have to believe in something where's there's no scientific proof it exists.

Whether they've got MH issues I wouldn't know, but not rational.

Wouldn't (ideally) want to be treated by a doctor or nurse that was religious, if I had a choice.

For me, logic and religion are opposite sides.

Sheesh! Look into LIFE and see the mystery of biology. Then have a good think

not mentally ill - it's a way of coming to terms with things that are beyond human understanding

I'm not intelligent enough to understand the complexities of life as A_T says, so I don't believe in religion based on simple reasons such as what mememe has given, but understand why certain people are religious.

The worst kind of pain is when you've lost a family member either too young or in horrific circumstances, that can include slowly dying of cancer, I will never understand the point of that and it would make me resent any God if there were one.

I also don't understand the point of worshipping a God, I'd rather not worship anyone.

But in my experience, most religious people are peaceful people who do good, it just might not seem that way beause of the extremely loud minority starting wars in the name of religion.

Zorro explained through the use of glove puppets the concept, but I just cant see who/what/where/how you can love something that is so cryptic as to not even know if they exist.
Like do you have to pray kneeling down, are thoughts as good as prayers, to what extent was an act acceptable during life, which sins have been absolved and if you become 'born again' then does it set the original sins right even if you then loose your faith later?
All a mystery innit, but zorro will be along shortly...

well said Saddo.

religion is an evil concept.
Believing in a god is understandable (but I don't)

I had a looksee at those commandments just in case and think I scored around 7.5 out of 10 which is pretty fookin good in my book.
Way I see it if you keep on the good side of those just in case......

these big empty buildings are full of history , find a local to
guide you to points of interest, before or after the audience participation bit

climb to a high point and gain a view of the area

Very hard to accept that as you grow older and see the misery that exists.

Because we were given a choice of how to behave. Nothing is meant to be easy, why should it be?

Most religious belief comes from indoctrination from families and passed down the generations.

[i]paulypaul
Very hard to accept that as you grow older and see the misery that exists.
Because we were given a choice of how to behave. Nothing is meant to be easy, why should it be?[/i]

The hundreds of thousands of babies born in Africa each year only to suffer a slow painful death from malnutrition hardly chose that.

brassneck........3 yachts and a religious expert

So where did God come from?

einstein would be a non believer if he was alive today ..that's for sure

Have faith or have some faith or have no faith...just be a decent human being...but what does that mean???

who created God?
why does evil exist - or why does suffering and corruption exist?
Is there scientific proof of God?
famous scientists that believed in God? were they mentally ill?
Sad men in life without knowledge of God.
The bible.

Answers
God is eternal and perfect - nobody created him. He is spirit(jesus said this) he is not physical. He speaks and matter comes into being. He is a higher dimensional being. He created time and the physical universe which all exists within four dimensions.

As part of true freedom, the choice of evil exists. To teach mankind why evil is not a valid choice, the knowledge of good and evil was placed in the garden. Corruption was introduced into creation. The creation is now cursed with death and pain. To redeem those that are within this life, God gave us Jesus and the holy spirit. The Jews are the proxy people. the middlemen that God speaks thru. They tried for thousands of years to be good by the law. They offered animal sacrifices. They had weird cleansing rituals to take away their sins. All of this was short lived. Because men sin again and again. So God stepped in as it was his plan from the start (the word was with God) No action by man can redeem him. But God's Action can. 
Jesus stepped in after 4000 years to save by GRACE - law became the inferior method.
By claiming Christ as your savior your sins past and future are on him. He took all of the sins of the world with him to the cross and hell. For three days he was in hell.
Then God returned and ascended to prepare a place for those that would believe and be saved. He left the holy spirit with his followers and the holy spirit can be anyone's helper if he is invited in.

Science - Matter from Nothing? Is that scientific.
The Goldilock proposition - if one factor of hundreds of constants are out - we don't exist.
Yet the constants are shifting all the time? this has been recognized by scientists.
Life needs life to exist - all life feeds off other life? We need plants. Plants need microbes. Microbes feed off other life. So for life to start to exist - it needs food.

Ernst Boris Chain (nobel Prize winner) debated Darwinists in his later years. Co worker and friend to Florey who created antibiotics.
As concerning creation, he said, “Apes, after all, unlike man, have not produced great prophets, philosophers, mathematicians, writers, poets, composers, painters and scientists.  They are not inspired by the divine spark which manifests itself so evidently in the spiritual creation of man and which differentiates man from animals.”

Louise Pasteur wrote many times about Darwinism being twaddle.

The three top physicists voted by global poll - all believed in a God.
Sir Isaac newton - wrote over a million words about the bible, he did some science in his spare time. These writing are now made available for the first time by Cambridge and other prestigious universities.(all mentally ill?)
http://www.newtonproject.ox.ac.uk/texts/newtons-works/religious
James Clerk Maxwell - possibly greater than Einstein, created a lot of the language of physics. Albert Einstein said without him he would have came up with nothing.
Devout christian.
Albert Einstein - mentions God a lot. Many quotes can be found. Although not a christian.

Sad sacks that don't believe in God. All they see is the material world. They deny the soul. They deny God any credit for his creation. They think they know stuff? but the scientists are always saying themselves the more they learn the more they realize they are just opening doors to new mysteries. They say they are related to Apes? but are always trying to impress their fellow men with what they know. Clever apes. They never will get off the mudball called earth. They'll just degrade it more with plastic and radiation.
Money is their God. "they know the cost of everything and the value of nothing"
they deny that emotions exist. That it's a chemical process. Their souls are ignored and wither. Their self imposed blindness is intentional. They cannot surrender to God. Because God is superior to them in every aspect. They cannot accept there is a higher authority.
They refuse that there will be a judgement put upon them. Yet they are judged by man all thru their lives. It's just God that angers them. They don't accept being tested. But accept scientific testing as good. Sad sacks.

oops the bible, the stumbling block
Here is a book that is 3000 years old. The old testament and the new. Sad sacks pick it up and read the words without the holy spirit and see the surface meaning. They don't understand it's encrypted. The book has weird number construction within it. Which cannot be explained. Please remember this book is thousands of years old, yet it still is regarded by many to be the most complex book in history.
It has Pattern, repeating concepts. It uses Paradox, something not used in literature until the 18th century. Idiots compare it to books written in this century? what book is it's match. Name one you sad sacks.
‘Hearing you will hear and shall not understand, And seeing you will see and not perceive; For the hearts of this people have grown dull. Their ears are hard of hearing, And their eyes they have closed, Lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, Lest they should understand with their hearts and turn, So that I should heal them.’ But blessed are your eyes, because they see; and your ears, because they hear. For truly I say to you that many prophets and righteous men desired to see what you see, and did not see it, and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it" (Matthew 13:10-17).

Finally God gave us 6000 years to choose. Do you love God or Hate him. All you sad sacks know God exists but you argue your petty trivial disputes out in forums with him. As if your opinion on the universe was pertinent. God created the universe to refine his creation. To drop the slag on the floor to create fine gold. Sad sacks don't make it into heaven because they don't love God, just themselves.

back to flippant commentary?

I'll take my chances mate.

eternity is how long? more than five years..

no mate - they made you up.

I already answered this below Sad sack - learn to read young man, learn to read.

God created god, then God created god - it's called infinite regression - That's not God God is not finite. Eventually you realize something has to be eternal. God is not a created being. He is before TIME. God created time. The mind before matter. Spirit is pure thought, in higher dimensions.

If i ask you to make something like a cardboard box for a parcel on ebay? what do you do? you first think about it? you can sit and do nothing and therefore the box is never going to exist? or you might sit down and plan on paper what you need to do. or jump in and start to cut the card you got from a stationary store. the box is built and if you have paid attention it might be a sturdy box.

the thought is the parent to creation.

if you have the devil in you - you circumvent creation and steal a ready made box.

here is a link to a video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr5lY0TcdAw

Zorro excelling himself this morning. One thread is not enough!