Question Time bbc 1 10.45pm - 9th Feb

They deemed it evasion

Onto This Week !

I hate this So-called funny stuff on this week

Andrew it is not funny

portillo the cowboy

Trying to attract under 25 year olds

Launching into Berkow, rofl.

sometimes it works, but often comes over as just wrong

Liz Kendall sex on legs

Lol worst attempt at laying a brick in history?

5 seconds to mention appeal court has uphelp suspension of travel ban in usa

onto the spreme court no doubt

upheld

supreme

twitter might crash

We need to block the borders and send some of the Europeans home...... That would mean less demand on housing.....
Which would lead to a drop in  House prices and a drop in rents

If we build more houses they'll just be brought up bent Russians and bent Chinese

*Bought

Ben T

Stop housing benefit to em, job done.

Neil really don't like Abbott

Why should he be any different!

How come ye don't get the connection between all these migrants,unaccompanied minors ( in their twenties and thirties ) and health tourists with the pressure on your NHS.

Agreed: we have 5 million too many people in this country and it is putting massive pressure on the NHS……  So is the underfunding by the Tories.

Health tourism must be stamped out

Nigerian government should have been made to pay for that Woman with four kids

£300,000

government must know how many people are in uk and are
supposed to govern based on those figure

hospital wards are being closed ...... that cant be the right thing to do


we can cut overseas aid, pump more money into health service, but
it takes a bit of planning in the first place

But at the moment and possibly for the next two years, we can't stop Europeans coming in here, so it could be 5 million more by then.

Need to make snap exit and send anybody back who came after June 23 at least.

I'd make it simpler,if an immigrant breaks any law he should be sent packing.

That would whittle down the numbers.

What about checking the criminal records of any European who is here..... Don't think the police even do that

they have figures that model that leopard so they cant say its unexpected

they will need to agree a date with eu for "return of expats" id expect date will be
sometime in 2018/19 so any here now or over there will be granted permission to
stay, but obviously thats up to teresa to use as a bargaining chip

kicking out 3 million workers from uk would be quite a job

All you do is put them on notice that they will be jailed if they do not go back to their country....... then most will go back of their own accord.

How about self deportation.
Remove all benefits from immigrants,that should send a lot of them going back the same way as they came.

Wild West do you dislike all immigrants , ie West Indians , Chinese, eastern Europeans is it the lot of them you think we should get rid of .

They might just move into the black economy

No pun intended

too late
R button of doom

That's where Frodo went .....isn't it

Aren't the Tories planning to stop immigrants from claiming benefits for three years ?

isn't that those that have not found work

But if you live in London you need to claim housing benefit even if you have a job .......below the average wage

Another reason to avoid London

house prices and rents around london are scarey

there must be a ceiling somewhere but it just keeps going up


we got new neighbours, sold london house and retired to durham
retired at 50 !

their son was at durham uni, fell for a local lass, got married,  so they decided to
settle here too, waiting for grandkids.

Very bad for you retiring at 50....... May seem attractive but they will go nuts by the time they are 60

They'll probably get part-time jobs in a couple of years or set something up as a Small business

The devil makes work for idle hands

he reckons he might set up a business if he gets bored, likes fishing so
is in heaven finding all new spots. his mrs is sorting her house and sons
she like design, i guess she may get bored too unless he takes her out fishing

Sea or river fishing

Where do you live near, Durham ?

he likes river and lake, we are close(ish) to north sea but he hasnt
had a go at that yet.

i am in durham

another friend has a boat , but doesnt go fishing

they are planning getting together in summer but i
dont think he has any sea fishing gear (yet)

Christ, they are cutting the trees with chainsaws , two or three guys, on the train line right now at 1:30 in the morning

Fishing is not so bad nowadays as you can take an iPad or Smartphone

I used to do a bit of fishing in Tewkesbury when I was young but never moved on to do it seriously

That's in Gloucestershire 10 miles north of Cheltenham

i did some as a youngster but prefered football cricket and golf

we were in cook islands last summer and i was very tempted to
go out fishing but we just went sailing instead , its probably 30
years since i cast a rod

Yes I wouldn't like to hurt fish I would rather just go diving or snorkelling

i keep hearing about all these schemes about making housing more affordable but nobody ever mentions how you make cheaper houses next to someone who bought one at the top of the market 12 months earlier,all cheaper houses will do ,will lower the prices of the current housing stock forcing people into negative equity and blocking the housing chain because millions when they out grow their house wont be able to move,i,m afraid the genies out of the bottle with 10 years of subsidising house buyers with low interest rates and fancy schemes

They cannot have a situation where house prices fall quickly, negative equity would affect the loan to asset ratio and the banks would be in bother again. The best they can hope for is that house prices wither on the vine, a long haul.

Anxious,I'm against mass immigration.
I'm against it because it suppresses wages and affects the working class.
I'm against immigrants that won't work.

The political elites and the wealthy and business class have joined forces with the Islington set in swamping your country with hostile immigrants.
The wealthy want the cheap labour,the nannies,the maids.
The Labour and Lib/Dems want the votes.
The Islington set want to virtue signal.

The people paying the price are the working class.
Its their houses that are getting taken
Its their jobs getting snaffled.
Its their hospital beds getting occupied.
Its their kids school places getting taken.

There is also the danger of terrorism in these waves of migration and the rewarding of traffickers.

^ Agree with most of that.

We need a stop to immigration......why should we take even high skilled people from other countries when they are surely needed in those countries to build their own ecomomies.

One of the most beneficial examples of mass immigration (apart from obvious examples like the Jewish diaspora and the Huguenots) was the influx of young Irish people, a generation ago. It would be hard to put a number on that wave of immigration, it coincided with the Poll Tax, but London was suffused with new Irish blood. Most were better educated and qualified than the resident population and it is no surprise that they have flourished and now form an important part of the so-called "metropolitan elite."
It is unclear whether wildman would like to prevent Irish immigration. Perhaps just Catholics. I think we should be told.

I  agree partly with what you say Wild West but you its an easy exscuse to say that immigration is the the major problem the main problem is a  Government obsessed with the free market and still trying to implement s failed trickle down approach , after all the Thatcherite dream of a property owning democracy is now dead .

Feb 10, 2017 -- 10:56AM, unitedbiscuits wrote:

One of the most beneficial examples of mass immigration (apart from obvious examples like the Jewish diaspora and the Huguenots) was the influx of young Irish people, a generation ago. It would be hard to put a number on that wave of immigration, it coincided with the Poll Tax, but London was suffused with new Irish blood. Most were better educated and qualified than the resident population and it is no surprise that they have flourished and now form an important part of the so-called "metropolitan elite." It is unclear whether wildman would like to prevent Irish immigration. Perhaps just Catholics. I think we should be told.

Yes but how has that affected the Irish economy and communities, maybe the UK would not have had to bail them out a few years back when they were near collapse.

Why should we take all their best people.

We take nurses because the the gov wanted to save 30k per head in training our own. Short term saving, long term problem.

The Leopard - I hadn't considered Protectionism as a help to countries that people want to leave. Hearts of gold, eh.

You should consider it.

They only wanted to lead to get away from their parents

*Leave

The Leopard - there were a fair few escaping a hasty marriage. Not sure how it is in Ireland re divorce now, but it was verboten there then.

Yes, escaping the totalitarianism of the Catholic Church.

They saw how they operated when they were beaten regularly by the (so-called) Christian Brothers

Irish immigration is different.
Its a recent development as we were in a political union for years.
Internal migration is not immigration.

Having said that any one who is a guest of your country should obey its laws,the penalties should be severer for immigrants and deportation should be in play for any offence.

I was an immigrant,I was thankful of the opportunity presented to me,I broke no laws and collected no welfare and finally I went home.
The problem immigrants break laws,collect welfare and never go home.

we were a political union with india for many years too, as like with
ireland we invaded

Dear oh dear.
You weren't in a political union with India,you ruled India.
The Acts of Union of 1800 formed the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland,it was passed in both parliaments.

What about Irish immigration to America in the Nineteenth century, Wildman?
I can see the upside for the emigrants, escaping famine; and for the welcoming country, America benefitted and continues to benefit enormously from Irish roots. Why would you try stop it, Wildman?

America was becoming a country, no established country wants or needs immigration

Uh huh,
What year did the USA become a country, LFC?

I don't know

well it's always been there.

Bit like the question ... "what was the world's biggest island before Australia was discovered?"

thanks for clearing that up mememe : )

council tax going up 5% and social care cant keep pace,eveb in leavy surrey,but bring,m all in ,WTF

WE,LL discuss lack of housing,lack of school places,nhs going under next week,WTF,BRING,M ALL IN

They refuse to see the madness of it 1TP 

There was no welfare in America,if you made it fair enough if you didnt you went home.

You can't have open borders and a welfare state.

what has irish immigration years ago got to do with an invasion of your country by an alien culture?
typical misleading and directing attention away from the main issue

EU migrants cannot claim benefits for four years anyway. Of The overall benefits caseload, only 2.5% is paid to EU migrants.Once they are gone, and replaced by our own unemployable class (good luck with that) and the working class are worse off with no scapegoats to blame, there is bound to be a lot of disappointment and anger.

Not to mention the strain on services when our expats are returned from the Costa Braga. We're swapping good workers for geriatric cases.

Wild West that's why the after the war Socialism built the NHS and the Social Security System which prevented my country from ever becoming like America , there was a post war consensus on this until Thatcher destroyed it.

I  agree partly with what you say Wild West but you its an easy exscuse to say that immigration is the the major problem the main problem is a  Government obsessed with the free market and still trying to implement s failed trickle down approach , after all the Thatcherite dream of a property owning democracy is now dead .


And the Governments opposition being the Labour Party sees no problem with current UK immigration figures.  If the Labour Party was not so tribal then it would admit that over supply of labour is a negative to native workers.

Yes capitalisms bust has caused the injury, but an oversupply of labour from the EU has ben the insult to that injury.

Im not denying that Zen Jeremy is wrong in his approach to this issue but like I said its not the only thing to be concerned with, the tories are guilty of other crimes which have made things worse do you agree ?

Tory positives for the working class - The Tories have increased  tax allowance, the national living wage, increased free childcare to 30 hours for 3 and 4 year olds.
Tory negatives for the working  - Councils have received less funding which hits the poorer in society and other subsidies have been scrapped including the spare bedroom subsidy etc.

The Tories are not all bad anxious.

The National living wage ? whilst their friends pocket millions they have increased the minimum for the workers

They have stood by whilst the rip off energy private cowboys have robbed the people blind with massive increases in their carved up cartel

They have moved closer to the destruction of the NHS by making it easier for the private cowboys to plunge into the NHS

Wake up Zen and realise these people are the true enemy

And are we forgetting the Labour Party signing all those PFI contracts anxious?

They were wrong that's for sure

Every action has an equal and opposite reaction, and Jeremy with wanting to flood the country with whoever wants to come here and then attacking Premier League football clubs who contribute a huge amount to the treasury is a recipe for disaster.
Where would the money come from to pay for his dream?