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Emitdeb
09 Feb 17 16:32
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Thing that sort of swings it for me, is the guy following Neal Armstrong around asking him to "swear on the Bible he went to the moon".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VgljrAlxmU


I'm 80 - 20 .... Crazy

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By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 09 Feb 17 16:42
When someone (might have been the same person) did the same with Buzz Aldrin, he chinned him.

Imo, their advisers and those who give them media training, would have told them not to get involved.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 09 Feb 17 19:15
I was on the moon last night, all their junk is still up there.

you can take my word for it? Crazy
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 09 Feb 17 19:21
Why would they even have wanted to go to the moon ?

And why has nobody been since if it was so important ?
By:
terry mccann
When: 09 Feb 17 19:23
why wouldn't you swear on the bible if it was true/ 100 percent b0llox they went
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 09 Feb 17 19:27
if you weren't religious, why would you?
By:
terry mccann
When: 09 Feb 17 19:29
he is religious,hence the bible
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 09 Feb 17 19:33
he labeled himself as a deist.[126][127] His mother later said that Armstrong's religious views caused her grief and distress in later life as she was more religious.[128] First Man: The Life of Neil A. Armstrong, his official biography, also describes him as a deist.
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 09 Feb 17 19:34
why wouldn't you swear on the bible if it was true/ 100 percent b0llox they went


See my earlier post.

Imo, it's similar to when a politician is interviewed about education and is asked what is 8 x 7. They never respond but it's not because they don't know the answer.
By:
terry mccann
When: 09 Feb 17 19:37
o the disgrace to be found out
By:
Degs
When: 09 Feb 17 19:39

Feb 9, 2017 -- 7:21PM, scandanavian_haven wrote:


Why would they even have wanted to go to the moon ?And why has nobody been since if it was so important ?


USSR v USA, simple as that

By:
zorrostrikes
When: 09 Feb 17 19:41
they went to the moon for the cheese? that and proving to the soviets that theirs was bigger.
once on the moon, they built moonbase alpha and the moon left orbit for a few years, then it was returned around 2002 when the series finished. Wink
By:
terry mccann
When: 09 Feb 17 19:42
quite a few people bumped off to keep it hush hush as we know
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 09 Feb 17 19:44
Spending 10% of their GDP to win a race seems insane
By:
Degs
When: 09 Feb 17 19:48

Feb 9, 2017 -- 7:44PM, scandanavian_haven wrote:


Spending 10% of their GDP to win a race seems insane


I've not seen that figure before ... where did you see it ?

By:
zorrostrikes
When: 09 Feb 17 19:52
have you seen the size of the rocket? It was freakin enormous? and they made plenty of them.
every component would be hugely expensive. It took weeks to move them into place to fire.
By:
SPOT THE DOG
When: 09 Feb 17 19:53
I believe, man did land on the Moon

I believe, there was a cover up over the death of Princess Diana
By:
sixtwosix
When: 09 Feb 17 19:54
Watched Capricorn One a couple of weeks ago .
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 09 Feb 17 19:56
There has been independent analysis of rocks brought back from the moon. There have also been photographs taken by independent third parties which show debris left after the various missions.
By:
doridoru
When: 09 Feb 17 20:01

Feb 9, 2017 -- 7:54PM, sixtwosix wrote:


Watched Capricorn One a couple of weeks ago .


Brilliant film, sums it up

By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 09 Feb 17 20:05
Read it somewhere long time ago, but bound to be many sites that give the answer.
By:
Degs
When: 09 Feb 17 20:10

Feb 9, 2017 -- 8:05PM, scandanavian_haven wrote:


Read it somewhere long time ago, but bound to be many sites that give the answer.


I saw figures of about 5% federal budget,

By:
Degs
When: 09 Feb 17 20:11
wikipedia gives it as ..

From 1964 until 1973, $6.417 billion ($41.9 billion in 2017) in total was appropriated for the R&D and flights of the Saturn V, with the maximum being in 1966 with $1.2 billion ($8.86 billion in 2017).[1] That same year, NASA received its biggest budget of US$4.5 billion, about 0.5 percent of the gross domestic product (GDP) of the United States at that time.
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 09 Feb 17 20:17
well i found this

The Apollo project cost 25 billion dollars. In the mid-60s, the USA’s gross domestic product (GDP) was around 1000 billion dollars. So the costs of the project amounted to around 2.5 % of GDP annually over a 10-year period


ok lower than I first thought, but still an insane cost back in the 60's. They wanted to win a race more than they wanted to feed their own people and create sustainable jobs.
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 09 Feb 17 20:19
that 0.5% figure was for just one year.
By:
Degs
When: 09 Feb 17 20:23
yes, the 0.5% is one year, like it says, the year NASA received it's biggest annual budget. GDP is an annual measure isn't it ?
By:
crystalhunt
When: 09 Feb 17 20:25
Kennedy made a pledge to the American people to get the first man on the moon by 1970. Failure wasn't an option so looks like they just made it , or did they.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/may/25/newsid_4369000/4369187.stm

Amazing fact in this article is that Kennedy asked congress for an extra $1.700m  (£600m). Great exchange rate in those days.
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 09 Feb 17 20:26
yeah but on average over the course of the mission is what I mean, the 0.5 was for one year

Now it would cost about 100 million dollers to get there.
By:
Degs
When: 09 Feb 17 20:36
So 0.5% GDP in the highest spend year, but the average is higher.

OK
By:
Clouseau
When: 09 Feb 17 20:37
What do these people fooking want? A postcard with a moon stamp on it?
Get a fooking grip. lads. It happened. Move on.

The sh1te, fear and bravery that Armstrong, Aldrin, Collins and the rest had to go through to get there and they are criticised for not playing along with a self-publicising loon!

They are well above that and that kn0bhead. Give us a break!
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 09 Feb 17 20:38
that's using the wiki figures, the one I post was different and higher.
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 09 Feb 17 20:39
that person was a nob, but doesn't mean you have to believe everything you're told, and I'm definely not a conspiracy nut type.
By:
crags
When: 09 Feb 17 21:01
These moon landing threads are almost as bad as the McCann ones Sad
By:
JASS
When: 09 Feb 17 21:02
I don't often post,but got to say,my father in law worked for the MOD as a scientist in the 1960s to early 80s.Designing missiles and rockets ,and as a master of physics he always maintained they never had the technology to get there.
By:
Crisp77
When: 09 Feb 17 21:04
Surely they will be going back now to put Trump on it in huge letters.
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 09 Feb 17 21:10
intersting jass, 480,000 mile round trip in the 60's is questionable.
By:
Emitdeb
When: 10 Feb 17 05:39
i_agree_with_nick

09 Feb 17 19:56
There has been independent analysis of rocks brought back from the moon. There have also been photographs taken by independent third parties which show debris left after the various missions.


Any links?   

currently 90% - 10%  sure it was all BS...
By:
Emitdeb
When: 10 Feb 17 05:53
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBGAnxcIxtc

Shocked
By:
Facts
When: 10 Feb 17 09:31
sixtwosix    09 Feb 17 19:54 
Watched Capricorn One a couple of weeks ago .


That was fiction. hth.
By:
zorrostrikes
When: 10 Feb 17 10:12
the moon is only 250,000 miles away? Australia is 12,000 miles? so it's only twenty times more. - once you are in the vacuum of space a nudge can get you there? Well a small amount of fuel.
They have satellites up there to make your phones and GPS working?

Getting to other planets with men is going to be nearly impossible.

I personally don't care if they faked it, but it seems improbable - people do see the rockets take off? I'd imagine they would be spotted coming down? Even in remote areas.
then they'd have to take off again? for the return? Unless they just orbit the earth. Again they would be picked up by people. They picked up sputnik? with teens radio clubs in the fifties.
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