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Report Jack Hacksaw February 2, 2017 1:34 PM GMT
Sexist.
Report dustybin February 2, 2017 1:36 PM GMT
around the same time they decided they wanted to start p1ssing standing up, think Freud called it 'penis envy' Mischief
Report mememe February 2, 2017 1:38 PM GMT
Reported ...

Actor indicates male gender and therefore I'm hugely offended.

Larry Grayson must be turning in his grave.  And Dale Winton ....
Report dustybin February 2, 2017 1:42 PM GMT
Do you know that Larry Grayson fella?
I grew up thinking wtf is this guy on about 'look at the muck in 'ere''

Was he just saying 'look at the filth' in the audience, as a jibe towards them all dressed up like scrubbers etc?
Report mememe February 2, 2017 1:48 PM GMT
dustybin

No I didn't know Larry, just saw him on Generation Game.

Sorry, shut that door.  Laugh
Report Aunty Post February 2, 2017 2:06 PM GMT
Same thing for "Landladies" who are often referred to as "Landlords"......
Report mememe February 2, 2017 2:08 PM GMT
But not Doctors and Doctresses?

Why not?
Report dustybin February 2, 2017 2:30 PM GMT
cos women dont want to feel different except when its them deciding they are
Report lovegod February 2, 2017 3:10 PM GMT
You'd have thought the women would want the men to be called actresses too.
Report Vubiant February 2, 2017 3:11 PM GMT
Engineeresses anyone ?
Nah , thought not.
Report Jack Hacksaw February 2, 2017 4:08 PM GMT
Was discussing about PCs and WPCs and why the need to differentiate.

My Mrs reckoned there was no need.

I said it was probably in case there was news of an incident over the blower and if there were a couple of WPCs in attendance,
they would need to send in some muscle.
Report zorrostrikes February 2, 2017 4:09 PM GMT
the proper term is ponce et poncette.
Report blackbarn February 2, 2017 4:24 PM GMT
Females were actors before they became actresses.   Females were first allowed on the stage in the mid 17th century and were called actors. Hth
Report Ramruma February 2, 2017 4:31 PM GMT
Wasn't there something about actresses being a euphemism for prostitutes? Though if so, it must be a regional thing, as the bishop said to the actress.
Report mememe February 2, 2017 4:42 PM GMT
Did some work some time ago and got sent some accounting procedures from site up in Scotland.

They referred to the responsibility for something or other as being that of the CLERKESS.

I'd never heard that term before, and haven't since.

Were the procedures written in classical Scottish or is it a regular term up there?

And on the subject, is Oor Willie still going?  Some Scottish friends of my mum and dad sent me an Oor Willie Annual - some 50 odd years ago - and Oor Willie had a paddock (a frog).
I used the term in class here in Engerland  in one story and teacher thought I was nutty and didn't believe it meant frog!
Report Knight Commander February 2, 2017 9:35 PM GMT
Trouble is there's no consistency.

Both male & female to be called actors. Same for managers and authors.
But apparently both waitress AND waiter are sexist. Crazy

I've given up and just call them all "thingies" now. Winds them up a treat Grin
Report Vubiant February 3, 2017 10:53 AM GMT
Let's hear what the postresses on here think .
Report Ramruma February 3, 2017 12:12 PM GMT
@Knight Commander -- from occasional viewing of Gordon Ramsay's (American) Kitchen Nightmares, it seems "server" is the current term in Trumpland for waiters.
Report TheBetterBettor February 3, 2017 12:37 PM GMT
Funny how they never called it 'Best Supporting Female Actor' at the Oscars.
Report TheBetterBettor February 3, 2017 12:40 PM GMT
Binman Taxman Manslaughter.....lets call the whole thing off.
Report cooperman February 3, 2017 1:25 PM GMT
'Luvvies', if you don't mind.
Report Gallivanter February 3, 2017 2:16 PM GMT
I believe WPC has been abandoned in favour of PC in most areas for, er, PC reasons.

Clerkess was in common usage until adding machines, calculators and computers simplified clerical work so much that more females could do it.

Oor Willie is actually Oor Wullie and a frog is a puddock. A paddock is a fenced field and an unfenced field is a park.

A female proprietor is a proprietrix, a female murderer is a murdress (note spelling) and wardress, waitress, actress, adultress, etc, follow the same rule.

Source: One year in a Scottish school, I mean academy, for wayward boys.
Report mokegibboni February 3, 2017 4:11 PM GMT
Actresses started to be called actors about 30 years ago now. A contestant on the quiz show 'Pointless' got caught out on this the other day when he answered 'actress' to a question but was told his answer was wrong. The correct answer was 'actor', the present day definition of both a male and a female actor.

Richard Osmond told the contestant that his answer would have been correct many years ago, but was not acceptable as far as the present day definition of the term is, as a female 'actress' was now called an 'actor'.

So as far as the programme was concerned, the contestant gave an incorrect answer.
Report mememe February 3, 2017 4:14 PM GMT
Gallivanter,

thanks for that ... I'd never heard of clerkess before.

And the clarification of Oor Wullie, puddock.Happy
Report Just Checking February 3, 2017 6:14 PM GMT
About time too. I always call the the thing I sleep on a Matror and people think I'm odd, this is a step in the right direction.
Report Ramruma February 3, 2017 7:12 PM GMT
I believe WPC has been abandoned in favour of PC in most areas for, er, PC reasons.

They all seem to be called "officer" in news reports because constable is such a long word and hacks and luvvies slavishly copying American usage.
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