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no money and the book to be published.

doesn't sound good.

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By:
leazes67
When: 31 Jan 17 16:51
Sounds great to me.
By:
Crisp77
When: 31 Jan 17 17:26
Their bad luck continues
By:
ooO{Alpha Centauri}Ooo
When: 31 Jan 17 18:50
Who paid for it?
By:
crystalhunt
When: 31 Jan 17 18:59
One day the truth will out.
By:
TELL DEL
When: 31 Jan 17 19:51
Madeleine, according to her parents, disappeared into thin air from an unlocked apartment in a foreign country. No evidence of abduction, though: no forced shutters and absolutely nothing left behind by this supposed abductor.

The past presence of a human corpse was detected in the McCanns’ apartment and in many other places associated with the McCanns by highly trained police sniffer dogs.

A lot of stuff from this book and a lot about it is all online, it is very convincing, but draw your own conclusions. Maybe one day the truth will be known.
By:
The Leopard
When: 31 Jan 17 19:54
Time for your medication !
By:
Ivor
When: 31 Jan 17 20:14
I agree with leazes67 - happy daze :)
By:
crystalhunt
When: 31 Jan 17 20:18
Having stubbornly supported their innocence from the outset, I started to have second thoughts last year, and more so after I watched a 3 part youtube video made by Richard Hall in which he interviews a witness statement expert in the USA. The videos are longish but compelling viewing and this expert is very credible. I now feel that they were involved in their daughters death and disappearance. Worth a view if you've got the time                     
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slziMpXYjJo
By:
posy
When: 31 Jan 17 21:13
tell dell....the apartment was locked not unlocked
By:
saddo
When: 31 Jan 17 21:17
I agree with Ivor.
By:
SPOT THE DOG
When: 31 Jan 17 21:49
crystalhunt
i'm half way through, not looking good for the McCanns
By:
saddo
When: 31 Jan 17 22:07
It's never looked good for em, but they have been feted by Popes and Presidents and gone thru millions of other people's money regardless.
By:
tobermory
When: 31 Jan 17 22:08

Jan 31, 2017 -- 1:54PM, The Leopard wrote:


Time for your medication !


Crazy That Nick guy with the paedo conspiracy you believe is is more plausible than the Mcanns

By:
akabula
When: 31 Jan 17 22:16
saddo
It's never looked good for em, but they have been feted by Popes and Presidents and gone thru millions of other people's money regardless.


Not to mention the support and protection they received from the UK government at the time of the abduction.
They also managed somehow to escape any sort of criticism for their actions in the UK press.
By:
saddo
When: 31 Jan 17 22:18
Was it special branch or MI5/6 that turned up at the scene? Compare that with others like Ben Needham.
By:
tobermory
When: 31 Jan 17 22:50

Jan 31, 2017 -- 3:13PM, posy wrote:


tell dell....the apartment was locked not unlocked


the patio doors were unlocked

By:
crystalhunt
When: 31 Jan 17 22:57
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crystalhunt
i'm half way through, not looking good for the McCanns


Be interested to know your final verdict
By:
thegiggilo
When: 01 Feb 17 01:56
Anyone who has been a parent looks at it exactly the same as the investigator.it's absolutely ludicrous that the british police aren't doing anything about it,one of the biggest politicl cover ups.Makes you wonder who the Mcanns know to have so much influence and why,although he seemed highly confident of abuse as well...
By:
kkkatt
When: 01 Feb 17 10:10
Thanks for that link crystalhunt. One of the most compelling videos I`ve watched in a long time and devastating for the McCanns. The dog evidence had me persuaded anyway but Hyatt is utterly convincing. He deconstructs a McCann interview sentence by sentence and it`s also interesting that he doesn`t seem to have an extensive knowledge of much of the peripheral evidence of the case.
By:
kkkatt
When: 01 Feb 17 10:10
Thanks for that link crystalhunt. One of the most compelling videos I`ve watched in a long time and devastating for the McCanns. The dog evidence had me persuaded anyway but Hyatt is utterly convincing. He deconstructs a McCann interview sentence by sentence and it`s also interesting that he doesn`t seem to have an extensive knowledge of much of the peripheral evidence of the case.
By:
donny osmond
When: 01 Feb 17 12:35
i remember the compelling book chariots of the gods

people should learn that it is easy to make a case for just about anything




i am no fan of the mccanns, i wonder what their kids will think of being
left unattended when they are old enough to understand.
By:
Latalomne
When: 01 Feb 17 12:54
Watched it on the basis of this thread myself.  Utterly compelling.
By:
TELL DEL
When: 01 Feb 17 14:09
posy

"tell dell....the apartment was locked not unlocked"

From the police report:

9.05pm: Gerry returns to the apartment through the unlocked patio doors to check on the children. Earlier that week, the McCanns had used a key to go in through the front door next to the children's bedroom but, worrying the noise might wake the children, they began using the patio doors, leaving them unlocked.

I have never been able to understand leaving 3 very little kids alone while you go out for a meal and drinking, but to leave 3 children alone in an unlocked apartment. Reading the statement you get the hang of Kate and Gerry`s parenting decision. Unbelievable !
By:
Burt06
When: 01 Feb 17 15:20
that american expert is very convincing. over 2 hours so it's a long watch but he makes the case very well for me. all that about speaking of her in the past tense and what that means makes sense to me. i remember listening to ben needhams mum over the years and she always speaks of him in the present tense and shows concern for his welfare. all missing with the McCanns as this guy points out.

one thing i do  think they miss is the photo of Maddie supposedly taken 7 hours prior. in the interview gerry says this is the last photo of her and you can see it was taken by a digital camera as here is the time and date. having watched the whole of that video that sounds like over justification to me which is something they came  to and the timeline much later on. i also seem to remember there was some dispute over that photo. was it not the case that the portugese were not happy that he didn't give them that photo  until after he come back from a visit to the UK?
By:
johnizere
When: 01 Feb 17 15:35
http://truthformadeleine.com/the-last-photo/

The more you look at the opinions on this photo, the more it seems dubious. Perhaps it's the power of persuasion tilting my own opinion?
By:
lfc1971
When: 01 Feb 17 15:36
Is there any evidence to link anyone to the case ?
By:
johnizere
When: 01 Feb 17 15:51
No evidence to prove either way that the McCanns were involved, and no evidence to prove an abduction either. Whoever is responsible for
Madeleine's disappearance did a pretty good job of it.
By:
lfc1971
When: 01 Feb 17 15:54
That's what I thought. It's something else when a policeman writes an account of how he solved a crime, and something else again when a policeman writes an account of how he bungled an investigation and failed to solve it...and makes a lot of money in the process.
By:
A_T
When: 01 Feb 17 16:06
a real mystery. only thing clear is that from the very start the principals were highly motivated to protect their own backsides rather than have the case solved. like the jonbenet ramsey case  it won't be solved without a confession.
By:
lfc1971
When: 01 Feb 17 16:08
How is that clear ?
By:
A_T
When: 01 Feb 17 16:11
within hours they were lawyered up with the best that money can buy
By:
lfc1971
When: 01 Feb 17 16:14
how would that impede the police investigation , where there any questions that they still haven't answered that might help the investigation , even now ?
By:
leazes67
When: 01 Feb 17 16:20
She refused to answer 48 of 49 questions.
By:
lfc1971
When: 01 Feb 17 16:23
really , what were they ?
By:
lfc1971
When: 01 Feb 17 16:24
If they are on record, I am sure British police would know and might think they should be answered even now
By:
donny osmond
When: 01 Feb 17 16:30
they are and google will locate them for you
By:
lfc1971
When: 01 Feb 17 16:33
That's ok , as long as British police know about the questions .
By:
itcanbedone
When: 01 Feb 17 16:39
regarding the video crystahunt put up....

I have watched quite a bit of it, including the conclusion, though not all of it.

He made several strong points, however I felt the fact that the entire analysis appeared to be based upon a TV interview filmed months or years? after the event undermined some of his analysis.  He should have been analysing their official statements (if available) and any footage of them  from the time of the incident.

Also some allowance should be made for the colloquial Scouse/Scot turn of phrases and patterns of speech the McCann use.

Interesting though.
By:
johnizere
When: 01 Feb 17 16:47
there you go, LFC!

7 SEPTEMBER QUESTIONS TO KATE McCANN
1    On 3 May 2007 at around 2200, when you entered the apartment what did you see and do, where did you look, and what did you touch?
2    Did you look inside the wardrobe in the bedroom? She said she wouldn't answer.
3    (Shown two photographs of the wardrobe) Can you describe its contents?
4    Why had the curtain behind the sofa in front of the side window (a photograph of which was shown to her), been disturbed? Had someone passed behind this sofa?
5    How much time did you spend searching in the apartment after realising that your daughter Madeleine had disappeared?
6    Why did you say from the start that Madeleine had been abducted?
7    Assuming that Madeleine had been abducted, why did you leave the twins alone at home to go to the Tapas to raise the alarm, not least because the supposed abductor could still be in the apartment?
8    Why did you not ask the twins at that moment what had happened to their sister, or why did you not ask them later?
9    When you raised the alarm in the Tapas what specific words were used?
10    What happened after raising the alarm at the Tapas?
11    Did you have a mobile phone with you at that moment?
12    Why did you go to warn your friends instead of shouting from the balcony?
13    Who contacted the authorities?
14    Who took part in the searches?
15    Did someone outside the group learn, in the moments that followed, of Madeleine's disappearance?
16    Did any neighbour offer you help after the alarm was raised about the disappearance?
17    What did the expression "we let her down" mean?
18    Did Jane tell you that she had seen a man carrying a child that night?
19    How were the authorities contacted and which police force was alerted?
20    During the searches after police arrived, in which places were Madeleine searched for, and in what way?
21    Why did the twins not wake up during the search or when they went upstairs?
22    Whom did you telephone after the discovery?
23    Did you call Sky News?
24    Did you know of any danger of calling the media alerting them of the abduction, since this could influence the abductor?
25    Did you request the presence of a priest?
26    In what way was the face of Madeleine, in photographs or by other means, released?
27    Is it true that during the search you remained seated on Madeleine's bed in your room without moving?
28    What was your behaviour like during that night?
29    Did you manage to sleep?
30    Before the trip to Portugal did you make a comment about a bad feeling or premonition about it?
31    What was Madeleine's behaviour like?
32    Did Madeleine suffer from any infirmity or take medication?
33    What was Madeleine's relationship like with her brother and sister, friends and fellow pupils?
34    Regarding your professional life, in how many hospitals and in which ones did you work?
35    What was your speciality as a doctor?
36    Do you work shifts in emergency wards or other departments?
37    Do you work in the daytime?
38    Why did you stop working at a certain point?
39    Is it true or not that the twins have difficulty falling asleep, that they are restless and that this upsets you?
40    Is it true or not that at certain times you felt desperate at your children's attitude and that this upsets you a lot?
41    Is it true or not that in England you went so far as thinking about handing over Madeleine to a relative to look after?
42    At home (in England) did you give medication to your children and what kind of medication?
43    (Various films had been shown to her of the inspection by forensic dogs, where one can see their signalling indications of the scent of a human corpse and traces of human blood as well as the comments by the expert overseeing the exercise.) Having seen the film and after the scent of a corpse was signalled in her bedroom near the wardrobe, and behind the sofa by the window in the sitting room, Kate McCann said she could not explain anything more than she already had.
44    She was asked about the sniffer dog that signalled human blood behind the above-mentioned sofa. She said she could not explain anything more than she already had.
45    She was asked about the scent of corpse which was signalled in the vehicle she hired about a month after the disappearance, with number plate 59-DA-27. She said she could not explain anything more than she already had.
46    When the presence of human blood was signalled in the boot of the same vehicle Kate McCann said she could not explain anything more than she already had.
47    Confronted with the result of the sample of Madeleine's DNA, whose analysis was carried out by a British laboratory, found behind the sofa and in the boot of the vehicle, as previously described, Kate McCann said she could not explain anything more than she already had.
48    Did you have any responsibility or involvement in the disappearance of your daughter Madeleine?
49    Are you aware that the fact of your not answering the questions put to you jeopardise the investigation that was aimed at finding out what happened to your daughter, she answered: "Yes, if the investigation thinks that."
50    Do you have anything to add? She said: "No."
51    Her lawyer was asked to comment. He said he had nothing to state or request.
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