nice to see supreme court uphold rule of law

We'll ignore the fact that it goes against the wish of the people.

Only delaying the inevitable so don't get to excited sonny...oops..sorry..donny

Whilst playing into the hands of the misguided but outraged who believe democracy doesn't work for them and can be bought by a Princess with deep pockets and an agenda.

we are leaving ...

but through due process of law , not led by a dictator and a rabid press
and an army of trolls.

If the people really wanted out of the E.U. they had every chance of voting in a U.K.I.P Govt.
Unless they had all thought to themselves ,let's vote in a Tory Govt who are pro-E.U. then
use the referendum vote to vote out of the E.U. thus getting rid of the Prime Minister we
have just voted in, then it would all make perfect sense...

vote probably just put nuttal over the line in stoke,he doesnt need to even bother campaigning all the labour luvies hitting the airwaves banging on about votes,amendments to brexit etc ,will be more than enough chukka just sending the working class vote running to the ukip window

it would be great to have nuttal as an mp

he would then get a vote on triggering article 50

It was testing the law Donny. Nobody was sure what the law was and in 3 instances a law lord thought otherwise.
We voted out so quite not sure why we had to go back to parliament who okayed the vote in the first place.
Just all seems an enormous waste of time and money to satisfy an attention seeking individual.

it was government that brought this case as they lost the first case

i agree it is a waste of money trying to become a dictator

and yeah may has got the publicity she craves

I suppose you lefties need all the victories you can get after the run you've had.

I meant to add that it's okay for you but us tax payers have to foot the bill.

its not a victory for the left, its a victory for everyone

once brexit is complete you can look back and judge it again

yeah mays appeal was somewhat frivolous and she must have known she had no
chance of winning, but spent our money regardless.

shocking judgement for a pm, imo

I thought you favoured people using the courts?

Jan 24, 2017 -- 6:04AM, donny osmond wrote:

yeah mays appeal was somewhat frivolous and she must have known she had no chance of winning, but spent our money regardless.shocking judgement for a pm, imo

Well the government had to really didn't they, to check if the people had power or an individual with deep pockets and an agenda.

Still, I'm consoling myself that it's 'a victory for everyone' even though it feels like, yet again, democracy if taking a hoof in the balls.

the court case is not about brexit

the judges said that before the hearing

i think some folk are not understanding what the court has done today

Yes Donny we understand very well what it was doing, it was interfering in democracy.

Thirty odd million people went to the polls and the majority voted to leave.
One attention seeking individual takes the issue to the courts and they overrule the decision.

if you think that is her purpose then she has indeed failed

We live in a democracy.

The majority voted to leave the EU.

And that's it.

Everything else is just dancing round handbags - and using public money to enrich lawyers even further.

fear not akabula, the courts will not stand in the way of brexit

I should have added, we're leaving the EU.

We voted to and we will.  NAP

indeed we are mememe

and through democracy, not led by a dictator

donny,

don't care how ... I voted Brexit and want out of the corrupt cess pit.

Tomorrow's not soon enough.  2 years FFS, why?

So the vote of the electorate  has somehow made May a dictator?
Good thinking.

Donny, Donny, Donny

ok you dont understand

carry on....

You are right Donny, we don't understand why you suggest TMay is a dictator.

Care to elaborate old bean?

she is not a dictator as the supreme court today ruled she is not allowed to be

donny osmond    24 Jan 17 12:04 
yeah mays appeal was somewhat frivolous and she must have known she had no
chance of winning, but spent our money regardless.

shocking judgement for a pm, imo


No surprise there

somewhat frivolous 3 of the judges didn t think so,not in this case but isnt it rather worrying that in these cases of so called fact not opinions the 11 top judges in the country cant agree on the result,what chance have the great unwashed got

Jan 24, 2017 -- 6:24AM, donny osmond wrote:

if you think that is her purpose then she has indeed failed

She has very much succeeded in her aims. She is playing the long game.

Parliament must vote on the go-ahead for Brexit.

This could raise interesting issues regarding our democracy. It's unlikely that The Commons will generate a majority against triggering Article 50 - there simply isn't the numbers there despite the Liberals and Ken Clarke (probably) voting against it. More likely there will be delays and filibustering in the shape of numerous amendments to the legislation before it goes to The Lords

.....where it gets really interesting.

There is little appetite for Brexit in the Lords. Will they risk a constitutional crisis by voting against the triggering of Article 50, despite this being the will of the people? My guess is more delaying tactics, in the hope the public loses interest in the issue, before a General Election which may return a Parliament where Brexit support is in a minority...a second referendum....Brexit kicked into the long grass and delayed to the never-never.

Not an implausible scenario.

What will be the next spurious 'challenge', assuming that Parliament votes to trigger Article 50 ?

rtb

Electorate certainly won't lose interest.

We've been wanting a vote for years.

Majority wants out of the EU.

That's it.

Then why didn't you vote in U.K.I.P at the Election before Brexit?, that was a chance of a lifetime but you along with the Country
didn't take it. Instead you voted the Conservative Govt in led by pro-E.U Leader David Cameron.

who promised what,ffs

Didn't cameron promise a referendum in the Cons manifesto to win the UKIP sympathisers' votes?

Just that he got it all fookin wrong.

We made the right decsion in June.

Instead you voted the Conservative Govt in led by pro-E.U Leader David Cameron.


Cameron was neutral on EU membership at the time of the GE BM.
I know that you think Cameron wrote the Lisbon Treaty because you are clueless, but he actually opposed Brown's signing of the Lisbon Treaty.

So you're saying U.K. voters voted Cameron in to get us out of the E.U.?

Not all of them, but I did

So you're saying U.K. voters voted Cameron in to get us out of the E.U.?


He offered the referendum, the voters would then decide.

Cue the naive BM, "but why didn't they just vote for UKIP?"

So it was all a plan by unscrupulous voters..

Jan 24, 2017 -- 7:39AM, mememe wrote:

rtbElectorate certainly won't lose interest.We've been wanting a vote for years.Majority wants out of the EU.That's it.

You'd like to think so but it's like Ali vs Frazier at present: either side punching each other to a standstill, unwilling to compromise or accept we all do actually have to live together on our little 2 square feet of turf.

Today's decision is correct.
The interesting thing for me is that any mp who votes against triggering brexit could well be held to account by their constituents at the next general election, thus risking their career.
It's decision time! Not so sure that many of them will have the b**** to do it?

labour will be destroyed in the Midlands and North if lab MP votes against Brexit

Prceisely

Yes

BM

UKIP do not have the infrastructure to be in Government, they were formed to put pressure on the Tories for an IN/OUT referendum on the EU.
Cameron caved in, he was spooked enough to offer one.

Anything else?

So there were no Eurosceptics in the Tory Party?

This is a bad decision, who  would deny that ?
I don't think the majority of the judges understood what they were being asked.

So there were no Eurosceptics in the Tory Party?


Yes of course, and this was dividing the Tory Party and with UKIP gaining momentum Cameron became so spooked by the chances of losing votes and MP's he called the referendum.

Anything else?

I hardly think he was worried about Douglas Carswell and Mark Reckless..

Rich self interest gets in the way of democracy.  Has this ever happened before?  Like - zillions of times. But then has it ever worked in favour of the majority of (can I call them) ordinary people.  I know you will all tangle me up in legal terminology etc but quite honestly - it is Remain Rich sticking their oar in. Plain and simple.  And it will remain so - pardon the pun.
The great unwashed have been taught another lesson.

may was getting in the way of democracy nobody else

shameful that mps should even try to avoid parliament


bill could have been passed by now !

very poor decision, weakens the very fabric of parliamentary democracy.

you should become a judge lfc, then you would just need a few
more....

I hardly think he was worried about Douglas Carswell and Mark Reckless..


Breeding MAD

138 Tory MP's backed Leave.

185 backed remain and they are representatives of their constituents and voted in to take decisions on behalf of their electorate.

Which is why they will obey the will of their constituents and will BACK A50 being triggered BM.

As you say THEY represent THEIR constituencies, if they don't then they will be sacked by their constituencies at the next GE.


You are slowly catching on.

I do realize if we stupidly leave the E.U. we are setting this Country back 10 years.

lol zen

it is you that is slowly catching on to this
being a good decision

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPWst2d7BhY

It's only a good decision if MP's represent their constituencies on how that constituency voted on the referendum.
Your Remain MP's will have to face their hostile pro Leave constituencies if they vote to block A50.

the leavers should appeal the court decision coo either the judges di not understand the issues. were fed misleading information, were too stupid to vote , and 8 votes to 3 is too close to call

so are we to believe that if miss pushy pants and her rich pals hadnt stumped up the  money to bring this case,the supreme judges would have carried on supping port and playing bridge whilst the british electorate in their words were denied their democratic rights,makes you wonder how many times before we,ve been illegaly denied,maybe these judges should be sacked and miss pushy pants given their job

She was trying to stop the Government bypassing our Sovereign Parliament to get the U.K. out of Europe
in a manner that nobody would be able to see or agree with let alone debate.If you believe in the
Sovereignty of Parliament which we still have despite wanting to take it back then you cannot oppose
what she did unless you thought Brexit was a license to act in a Dictatorial manner with no accountability
to any M.P.s that are meant to protect and serve their Electorate.

the leavers can appeal the decision

but that would take it to their favourite court

A man has been arrested over alleged threats made against Gina Miller - the woman behind the Brexit legal challenge.
The 50-year-old man was detained in west London on Wednesday on suspicion of racially aggravated malicious communications. He is in custody.
The arrest follows a complaint made on 6 November relating to online threats.
The Met Police has also issued eight "cease and desist" notices to individuals across the UK.
They advise recipients that to continue with their current actions or behaviour could result in police action.

Miss Pushy Pants 5 minutes of fame ... that's all.

She'll regret it.

i doubt it, and she will be enshrined in our history alongside farage

Did the police investigate Monisha's call for trump to be assassinated?  (a guardian contributor by the way?)

no idea mobo

maybe you should start a thread about it

donny I suspect she's already regretting it.

DM all over her past, not good.

Why'd she do it.  Is she thick as well as attention seeking.

clearly she is not thick

it seems as if you live in some alt reality

she is if she couldn't pass a law degree at the East London U

My dog could do thyat

i think you dislike her so your alt reality is kicking in

I don't know what's going to happen. I'm a bit afraid.
and a bit not afraid also.

Great news. Guarantees a Tory/UKIP coallition after the next election.

The ensuing meltdown from the lefties will be the most glorious yet. Trumping even Trump.

I would start planning those marches just now boys and girls...pesky permits

Let me know when they're booked so I can come along to point and laugh.

donny, don't even know the woman, never met her.

But she'll regret fronting this.

and why?

you seem to have a bit of a thing about her if you look back
through the thread

she will be remembered long after we are gone

just find it strange why she would want to get involved ... she's not a politico by her own admission.

I wouldn't want to have opened my life to be pored over by the press.

Why did she, I wonder?

She was in an apparent abusive relationship with her second husband who was a hard lined Brexiteer.

A man with extreme Right-wing views, Maguire stood for the little-known English Democrat party in the 2010 General Election on an anti-EU platform and lost his deposit.

She has subsequently said that during their relationship, he subjected her to physical attacks.


Is this a case of 'hell hath no fury like a woman......

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4154094/What-s-truth-Gina-Miller.html

ZenMaster ...

It's all clear now.  She bankrolled the whole thing and opened her and her family's private lives to press scrutiny.

And because she was angry with an ex husband.


Glad I don't live next door to her.  She sounds "challenged", shall we say.

an ex husband who apparently abused her mememe....revenge is best served cold etc.

Plus i believe her current husband is worth a mint, so he is more than likely bankrolling it.

The press scrutiny will be short lived but she will forever be hoisted as the princess of this process.

No wonder, she wears the smug grin so well.

IDS firmly put in his place.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/iain-duncan-smith-supreme-court-brexit-ruling-response_uk_588731bce4b0f94bb304ccce

he was leader of the tories